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Old 12-28-2004, 09:16 PM   #1
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So I hear Cobb is t3h sucakAge. Why?
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Old 12-28-2004, 09:17 PM   #2
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I have an accessport and I love it. The only problem with Cobb is that they are slow.
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Old 12-28-2004, 10:24 PM   #3
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I have had my ECU remapped by Cobb for over a year and have been very pleased. I think most people believe cobb is to conservative with their maps.



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Old 12-29-2004, 12:41 AM   #4
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I don't have a problem with their products. My problem is that after having met Trey Cobb, and having personally seen what a (rhymes with knock) sucker he is, I vowed long ago that I would NEVER have a Cobb product on any car I owned. If I saw him burning on the side of the road I wouldn't pull over to pee on him. Trey Cobb has no ties, care or loyalty to the Subaru community. He is in it for one reason, and one reason only. He saw the coming trend and the opportunity to make money off of it. If Subaru modification dried up tomorrow, but the community was still active, we would never here from Trey Cobb again. He doesn't give one crap about you or your car, only the contents of your wallet.

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Old 12-29-2004, 01:05 AM   #5
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Ha ha ha ha ha,

Take Templar's opinion and reverse it. Having talked with Trey on several ocasions and with other employees over there at COBB about the build up on my now retired 2.5RS. I would say almost the exact oposite of Templar. Also haveing used several of their products on that car I was very pleased with the quality and performance gains of their products.

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Old 12-29-2004, 01:21 AM   #6
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I am very pleased with the prodocts and services from Josh at COBB. good gains from the parts for my 2.5RS, and Josh was very knowledgeable.
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Old 12-29-2004, 01:58 AM   #7
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i ordered a rear strut tower brace from them on my RS but recieved one for a GF and not a GM/GC. So I had it sent back to get the right piece. Did they bother to over night me the right part? HELL NO... slow ass ground shipping again. wonderful customer service.
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Old 12-29-2004, 08:29 AM   #8
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So...very mixed opinions.

Hmmmmmmmmm........*goes the WJM once more*
 
Old 12-29-2004, 08:41 AM   #9
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Talk to a guy named rallyrcr. He will be more than happy to tell you about his experience with Cobb.

Me, personally? I have considered buying one of their intakes, but even used ones are a bit pricey for me.


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Old 12-29-2004, 09:07 AM   #10
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I have a wrx stage 2. Just Kidding about the stage comment! But not really (dodgeball). Anyway, I have a Cobb accessport and had them flash it before that, I also have a Helix DP and Greddy Catback. They were very helpful in giving advice even though i wasnt buying their exhaust and they told my what they found to be good DP's and exhaust systems. I have really enjoyed every phone call for advice. But thats just my experience. They have been featured in Subaru Perf Magazine and seem to be at least on top of their game.
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Old 12-29-2004, 09:12 AM   #11
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IMHO Cobb is nothing more than a parts re-brander, he takes parts produced and built by other companies, buys them in bulk and has his name put on them. You can get the same products, cheaper elsewhere.

And his customer service sucks.

Cobb = JC Sports
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Old 12-29-2004, 09:19 AM   #12
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I am very happy with their reflash on my RS/ WRX. Everytime I deal with them they are very kind and knowledgeable.

I've only bought 2 products from them and most of the time I just call for questions about tuning and their products in general but they seem more than happy to answer my questions. I do agree they are slow on product releases (or lack thereof) but none of that has affected me personally.

That's just my personal experience though so take it for what it's worth.

Oh, and stagestgestagestagestage.

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Old 12-29-2004, 10:11 AM   #13
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Quote:
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He is in it for one reason, and one reason only. He saw the coming trend and the opportunity to make money off of it. If Subaru modification dried up tomorrow, but the community was still active, we would never here from Trey Cobb again. He doesn't give one crap about you or your car, only the contents of your wallet.
So? SOA doesn't care one bit about the community, either. The game is the same for EVERYONE - make money. Sure, some started because of the love, but it always boils down to the same goal. I just don't understand this attitude at all...
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Old 12-29-2004, 10:12 AM   #14
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IMHO Cobb is nothing more than a parts re-brander, he takes parts produced and built by other companies, buys them in bulk and has his name put on them. You can get the same products, cheaper elsewhere.

And his customer service sucks.

Cobb = JC Sports
What about the AccessPort? Is that rebranded, or something totally designed by them inhouse?

I've never dealt with their customer service - I ordered my AP through HotSubaru.com - they keep them in stock, unlike Cobb...
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Old 12-29-2004, 10:18 AM   #15
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I have an accessport and I love it. The only problem with Cobb is that they are slow.
I've been very happy with my AP so far. Well designed, and gave me exactly what I wanted at this point in my car's life.

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There IS a reason for that tho.....
Seriously. Some of us want our engines to last longer than WJM's do...

If I'm getting a generic reflash, I want it to be conservative. Sure, I'm not getting out every ounce of power I could be from a custom tune, but I honestly don't need that. I did get an all around better tuned car that drives a lot better (and faster ) than it was for a lot cheaper than, say, ecutek with a dynotune.

Plus, I can sell my AP.
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:06 AM   #16
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Quote:
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IMHO Cobb is nothing more than a parts re-brander

To be fair, Cobb DOES seem to be quite serious about Subaru tuning and has devoted a great deal of time and energy toward that end.

As for Templar's comments about Cobb only being in it for the money...
Well, I guess that means that they are running a typical American business.
Kent is just mad because nobody is concerned with the contents of HIS wallet. Come on Kent, we all have enough lint already.
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:07 AM   #17
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yeah last time I checked Cobb wasn't a charity, or a NFP org... But if it was a charity it would be sweet because my AP could qualify as a tax deduction.
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:11 AM   #18
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yeah last time I checked Cobb wasn't a charity, or a NFP org... But if it was a charity it would be sweet because my AP could qualify as a tax deduction.
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:13 AM   #19
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dale>cobb.

Daddy was modding Subarus at age 5 (and driving them! )
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:16 AM   #20
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dale>cobb.

Daddy was modding Subarus at age 5 (and driving them! )

Yes, but, he may well be the only person on earth capable of making HIMSELF car sick.



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Old 12-29-2004, 11:28 AM   #21
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To be fair, Cobb DOES seem to be quite serious about Subaru tuning and has devoted a great deal of time and energy toward that end.

As for Templar's comments about Cobb only being in it for the money...
Well, I guess that means that they are running a typical American business.
Kent is just mad because nobody is concerned with the contents of HIS wallet. Come on Kent, we all have enough lint already.
I think you missed the point of my thread. Most of the people here...Myself and Dale included would still be Subaru people if we weren't making money off of it (I was for 5 years). Trey Cobb is not a Subaru person. He is a business man, and probably a pretty good one. There is nothing wrong with that. As I said, he wants to sell you everything you are going to buy, then never see you again.

You do have to admit that you have a Cobb product and have complained about it quite a bit... I know, as I have listened to it. With that said, I have never said bad things about their stuff. I will never buy anything from them.
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:42 AM   #22
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As someone already said.. the vast majority of his stuff is just rebadged.. but then again so are a lot of other "tuner" products. I prefer other brands because they do the same thing cheaper....

Oh.. and cobb's race cars need better drivers or something. The Forester was a disgrace at one lap
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:44 AM   #23
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Templar....there must be something missing in the story, because my experience and several others has been nothing but good, and you seem to not only dislike COBB, but show an extreme contempt for Trey Cobb. Level with us - what happened
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:46 AM   #24
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I think you missed the point of my thread. Most of the people here...Myself and Dale included would still be Subaru people if we weren't making money off of it (I was for 5 years). Trey Cobb is not a Subaru person. He is a business man, and probably a pretty good one. There is nothing wrong with that. As I said, he wants to sell you everything you are going to buy, then never see you again.

You do have to admit that you have a Cobb product and have complained about it quite a bit... I know, as I have listened to it. With that said, I have never said bad things about their stuff. I will never buy anything from them.

Kent, I tend to agree with you about "Subaru people" but remember, I am one of those pin head liberal do gooder types.

And, it is true that I have not been entirely satisfied with Cobb.
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Old 12-29-2004, 11:46 AM   #25
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Cobb=t3h hAwtn3ss
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