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Old 03-19-2006, 03:07 AM   #401
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http://www.lsdiodes.com/shop/index.p...products_id=62

I'm feeling this... not feeling the insane ammount of wiring required but it would be cool to have 05 mustang style color switching.
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Old 03-21-2006, 01:56 AM   #402
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okay- so i did another chapter in my novel of the cluster-

i wanted red needles, dammit.

i also wanted a more uniform red behind the faces- so...

STAGE GELS

i found a great stage supply store in the bad part of town, but they were awesome and aside from worrying about my car parked outside, i had a great time with friendly service people. i got a whole sheet of stage gel for 7.50 and had a plethora of colors to choose from. if you have a stage lighting supplier in your town, go there, it's worth checking out.

i also have quite a bit of red gel left over, and if anyone needs a small amount, feel free to PM me, i might be able to send it off once i'm all done with it.

the other thing i wanted to do was invert the LCD. rubr ducky has a GREAT writeup on this, and he was very kind to send out optical adhesive to anyone who PM'd him- so i got a little square last week and was dying to put it into use. i had also had two diffuser filters from edmunds optics(which you will need because the one that comes on there can't simply be flipped, and even if it could it breaks so easily it's scary)
so i had everything i needed to do it right, if i did it right on the first time.

sadly- i didn't- but for the most part the needles were a success, the gels were a 2/3rds sucess and 1/3rds utter failure, and the LCD was a- well... it's working but i need to redo it and will need to order the parts again.


but enough blabbering! on to the pics-






finished (except for a bunch of internal problems):



when i plugged it back in, i found that i was 90 degrees off and backwards on the LCD diffuser panel. for some reason, it's red shimmering instead of just black. i tried to fix it but now it's green shimmering and black

i think it's because of the optical adhesive i used, because without the adhesive, it doesn't shimmer in colors it just diffuses the light.

then again, it's probably just my lack of proper testing before i pasted the sucker on there.


the other HUGE problem is that when i put the stage gels behind the gauge faces, the speedo stopped working.

hmm... i thought. i've messed with the cluster tons before and never had a single problem with the needles. i was despairing over it for a while, but i took the film out from behind it and it was just making it impossible for the little retainer ring to snap back down over the face, so i snapped it back down and it works now. it seems a little slow, i'm not sure if i can trust it, so i'm going to get a friend to pace me and see if it's still accurate.


in retrospect- if you want red needles, this is a great way to do it IF you have a steady hand and can apply pressure firmly but gently- you'll also need dexterity with an xacto blade to trim the gels once they're on the needles. the more meticulous you are, the better it will look once up close- since these will be staring you in the face when you're driving, i'd suggest you be meticulous
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Old 03-27-2006, 11:04 AM   #403
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find a model shop and buy some profilm, its the thin material used to cover wings on model planes, it is thinner than a coat of paint, and they do transparent red, ive just ordered some,, with that and the red bulbs, im hopin for good results..
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Old 03-28-2006, 03:49 AM   #404
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here's the unhindered halftone pattern, best pic i can get of it(i need a better macro lens)
this is a 2002 automatic RS cluster... but it should be toned the same on the back of the faces.


i'm glad to have this cluster as a backup.
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:13 PM   #405
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Handsdown, are you putting the red gels on the tops of the needles? Does it mix with the yellow at all and make orange when they are lit up? And how are you attaching the gel to the needles?
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:38 PM   #406
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yes, a little, and with optical adhesive.

it looks great in the day but i think i might just take them off and use the gels behind the guages so i can run white lights to light up the needles at full brightness- a DC2 ITR type cluster would be cool.
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:57 PM   #407
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Can anyone take a picture of the back of the gauges before removing the green film? I'm looking for something like a BEFORE picture of this .



Also for anyone who hasn't figured out what these little "clips" are that people are talking about under the needles, here you go.



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Old 03-28-2006, 08:37 PM   #408
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Can anyone take a picture of the back of the gauges before removing the green film? I'm looking for something like a BEFORE picture of this .
look up two posts?
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Old 03-30-2006, 04:36 AM   #409
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How do you get all the dust particles out once your putting it back together?
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Old 03-30-2006, 10:59 AM   #410
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canned air

but actually i just leave it dirty
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Old 03-30-2006, 04:21 PM   #411
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Old 04-03-2006, 07:34 AM   #412
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look up two posts?
That gauge is from a '02 RS and it isn't the same as an '04 WRX. Can someone get an '04 WRX shot? Thanks.
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Old 04-06-2006, 11:14 PM   #413
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Old 04-07-2006, 01:40 AM   #414
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About the 'halftone' pattern in the back....




(click for larger...)

That's about the best I've got.

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Old 04-07-2006, 08:49 PM   #415
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Rubr Duky, that optical adhesive film was great but I must have been using it wrong, because it was doing something funky to the light and making the diffuser turn either red or green.

i took it off and just used two small pieces on either end to hold it onto the glass and now it works fine.
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:40 AM   #416
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that looks pretty good. too bad there isnt a way to even out the hot spots and dim areas, yet.
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Old 04-08-2006, 12:34 PM   #417
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that looks pretty good. too bad there isnt a way to even out the hot spots and dim areas, yet.

Yet. I noticed you can buy the Temp/Fuel and Speedo (Hoping the Tach comes with it) gauges from various parts dealers. I have an idea in the works if I can get my hands on some unmodified faces for scanning purposes.

I've noticed the pattern is different on different MY clusters. Here's some shots of my '06 before I cleared it.

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Old 04-09-2006, 04:15 PM   #418
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Old 04-15-2006, 10:36 PM   #419
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hey guys, i tried the sharpie thing and i think it didn't come out right, any ideas?? i think my hand wasn't steady

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Old 04-15-2006, 10:46 PM   #420
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I hope to god you didnt pop out your needles doing that.
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Old 04-16-2006, 12:29 AM   #421
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microsoft paint, much?

seriously- your needles are more than likely screwed up and i hope to god you're just joking, because that looks so bad it doesn't even look real
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I hope to god you didnt pop out your needles doing that.
I have to wonder why we see responses like this constantly. I've always read comments such as 'You need a new cluster' but as far as I can tell you can easily order the gauges separate from the cluster. I've been thinking about sacrificing a new set of gauges for the sake of scanning the halftone pattern on the back of the faces--printing it on a transparency; painting over the appropriate parts with white; and then using optical adhesive to mount it to a layer of something else to achieve the desired color...and then mounting those to the back of the faces.
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Old 04-16-2006, 01:45 PM   #423
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I have to wonder why we see responses like this constantly. I've always read comments such as 'You need a new cluster' but as far as I can tell you can easily order the gauges separate from the cluster. I've been thinking about sacrificing a new set of gauges for the sake of scanning the halftone pattern on the back of the faces--printing it on a transparency; painting over the appropriate parts with white; and then using optical adhesive to mount it to a layer of something else to achieve the desired color...and then mounting those to the back of the faces.
what does ANY of that have to do with popping out needles?

have you successfully popped out the needles and verified that they work fine when you put them back in? and have you done it more than just a handful of times? because if you have i'm sure we'd all like a writeup on your magical method.
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Yeah that was a busted cluster a got from the local body shop just to play around with. Wanted to see this magic green film and what it would take to change the color evenly.
I'm assuming that by pullling the needles and re-installing them they won't read right yeah? If that's the case there has to be some way to recalibrate them or the cluster wouldn't ya think?
Figured I'd work it out with this broken one before I attempt my owner cluster.

And yes, as the photo demostrates I am quite good with the Paint program!!
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what does ANY of that have to do with popping out needles?

have you successfully popped out the needles and verified that they work fine when you put them back in? and have you done it more than just a handful of times? because if you have i'm sure we'd all like a writeup on your magical method.
I never said I have ever removed the needles? I simply said I don't understand why everyone automatically flinches in horror when someone says they've removed their needles or tells a person they need to buy a new cluster when they can simply replace the individual gauges if they've popped the needles off and screwed them up. If I had a magical method I wouldn't have mentioned my idea for sacrificing a new pair of gauges in order to scan the halftone pattern--I would have done it with my original pair before I removed the pattern and coloring.
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