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Old 04-25-2005, 11:43 PM   #151
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One more question for you Scooby Specialists, if I were to use LEDs
(like these: http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage....ctGroup_ID=554
or these: http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage....ctGroup_ID=292 )
instead of the standard bulbs, would that give me the solid light I want and how difficult are they to install???
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Old 04-26-2005, 01:17 AM   #152
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you'd have to fit the leads into a the bulb sockets... it wouldn't be very easy, but it wouldn't be impossible.

i wouldn't try it.
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Old 04-26-2005, 01:20 AM   #153
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here's my pics, finally borrowed a camera.

i apologize for the quality of the pictures, i couldn't fit my tripod in the car and didn't want to waste battery by adjusting the settings... just put it in nightmode point and shot and got these...

as you can see, the bigger bulbs are all waay more orange.



didn't do the stereo because i thought i'd still have my JVC kamelion, but some complete waste of life tried to steal it when they broke into my car. trying to pry it out, they shattered it to pieces. so i'm back to stock and probably going to keep it, i don't mind the orange/red/green. it looks bad but... well i'm poor and frankly i can deal.
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Old 04-26-2005, 08:14 AM   #154
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Did you double up the covers? When you have some free time take the cluster out and you will notice that the covers most likely partially slipped off.
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Old 04-26-2005, 12:16 PM   #155
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yeah i'll probably double up.
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Old 05-31-2005, 09:33 PM   #156
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i have done the radio (except for screen, choose not to mess with solder) and hvac mods and i am attempting the gauges. i have tried sanding the green film and it is taking entirely too long it took a good five mins to sand a one inch by one inch section of the numbers. is the nail polish remover easier? if so, does the nail polish remover have acetone or do i need it w/o the acetone?

also. my speedo now bounces as i'm driving. it gets smoothly two around 25 and then it stops and jumps to 35 then stops and jumps to 45.... is this because i didn't push that clip back down that is underneath the needle? any quick fixes to make it smooth? i was wondering... when u move the needles should they go back on their own?
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Old 06-18-2005, 12:43 AM   #157
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Hmmm well I did it, and my tach now says 6k-ish when the car's redlining.. Everything else works fine, any input on this? COuld it be the little rings? I'm about to go takea looksie right now
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Old 06-18-2005, 01:19 AM   #158
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Nevermind.. Fixed it.
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Old 06-18-2005, 03:40 AM   #159
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so you couldn't flip the odometer film over, i take it?
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:29 PM   #160
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I plan on trying this with my '05, I have yet to see a definitive answer as to sizes for LEDs. Could someone that used them let me know what size. I noticed the link to the 74 bulb, will that replace all the bulbs or just the large ones or small ones??
This is what I plan on buying ....
http://www.superbrightleds.com/1157.htm

scroll to the bottom it has #74 bulbs listed, you can purchase them with the socket or by themselves with a blunt end. I think I am going to purchase them by themselves, as the blunt end will spread the light more evently and help light the needles.

Also what type of remover should I get w/ or w/o acetone???? I hope to work on getting the film on this week, then once the bulbs come in .... I'll post a pic.

Thanks for your help Trunk_monkey ... you've inspired me.
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Old 06-18-2005, 06:44 PM   #161
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Go without acetone, it tends to react in a very bad way with with plastic, dont find out for yourself. I'm also looking forward to a more conclusive answer on which LED's, as some people were dissappointed with the hotspotting effect. Ill finally have some time on my hands so once I get an answer from you Ill try it out.

I also would like to clean up this tutorial a bit, so if some of you "nail polish remover users" could give me some tips, problems, and description of this so I can add it in. Unfortunately I did mine the hard way so I wont really be able to try out this awesome idea. I'll also try to get all the questions answered on the first page (less digging) so there will be some major editing. Also maybe get around to fixing my odo/trip light (broken since I got the car used and inspired this mod) and combine the film removal on the odo/trip into the tutorial.

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Old 06-19-2005, 08:16 PM   #162
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thanks for the reply, I'm gonna get some non acetone and try removing the film this week while I wait for the lights to come in. I ordered lights that came installed in the twist on unit (if you understand what I mean) so I should be able to pop out the old and pop in the new, without pulling the bulbs or worrying about which went where. I am getting size 74 which replaces about 20 other bulbs according to the site I ordered from (follow link above) I hope to have this done by this weekend. I'll post a reply with a pic when I get it done.
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Old 07-01-2005, 03:46 PM   #163
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If anyone cares.
Find a pair of scissors small ones work better
cut strips of sandpaper & wrap around and tape it
at the top
You will have a very thin sanding tool
I did the fuel coolant area in 5 min
the speed & tach takes a little longer
Are you guys doing the direction arrows to
If not you should it comes out nice.
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Old 07-15-2005, 01:56 AM   #164
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so for everyone that said they were going to try this....any results? anyone get a good blue light? anyone try the stage lighting gels?
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Old 07-16-2005, 04:56 PM   #165
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I ordered the LED's listed above, they came with sockets and blunt end bulbs. I ended up switching out the bulbs with the blunt end ones because they seemed to have a better spread of light, the heater cluster turned out great because it has a white face, I just removed the stock bulbs and screwed in the new ones. Looks good and matches my aftermarket stereo's red face. However I tried just switiching to LED's in the instrument panel and to no avail it was a faint orange, looked bad. I would suggest going the route of others and removing the green, I just haven't had time. The led's would probably work well if you did so. good luck...
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Old 07-17-2005, 08:49 PM   #166
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I got my guage cluster out pretty easily, its a little different than the WRX but when I got the cluster into the house I realized that the bulbs that illuminate the cluster are a lot larger than I had thoughr. I had a lot of left over bulb covers from when I did the HVAC conversion but now I have my gauges apart and am going to be stuck with either a bluish color or white. Does anyone know where I could get bulb covers for these bulbs? They are much larger than the ones for the HVAC, I would guess about 15mm high and 10mm across. Or do you think I should just get some paint and do them that way? No matter what I am taking the green film off the back but I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the BD cluster. In case you dont know legacy abbreviations its a legacy sedan from 96-99. Thanks for any help you guys can give me. Oh and the base of the bulb is not like the ones for the switches or HVAC, it looks the same and then there is a rectangular part used to remove it from the cluster instead of using a screw driver like the other ones.
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:18 PM   #167
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haven't checked back here in a while. I am ordering the stage light gels for my experiment. will post results and pics later
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Old 07-28-2005, 01:30 AM   #168
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About the LCD odometer....

I have an '04, and I don't know if it is the same for the '03s or not, but the LCD sits atop a plastic housing with a bulb on the other side.

In order to get to this, you need to remove the gauges. This is fairly easy, as there are four sections on the PCB on the back side (you have to remove the plastic cover on the rear to get to them) that the gauges attach to. for each dial, there are two metal tabs bent over the PCB, that you need to straighten. The solder points you see are straight pins that plug into the coils that power the dials. It's snug, but you simply pull.

Then you take the plastic cover off of the front of the PCB so you have the PCB by itself.

Once you find the LCD, it gets kinda easy:

You need to be very careful so you don't scratch the front coating on the LCD, or chip the glass at the edges, but if you look around the edges of it, you will see a green plastic piece. VERY gently, and VERY carefully pry the LCD display up a little bit on the far side of the pins. Once you have some clearance, you can rech in there with tweezers and pull the green diffuser out of there.

I haven't replaced it yet, but I am going to attempt to invert the polarizer, and include a diffuser in that element. I did double-bag the light with the bulb condoms behind the LCD, and it doesn't 'hot spot' noticeably, so it may not even need a diffuser.

I apologize for posting all of this without pictures, but I will get some as soon as I can (maybe by the weekend?)

If any of this is confusing for anyone, PM, ICQ, AIM or e-mail me, and I'll see if I can help out.

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Old 08-03-2005, 09:38 PM   #169
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I got my guage cluster out pretty easily, its a little different than the WRX but when I got the cluster into the house I realized that the bulbs that illuminate the cluster are a lot larger than I had thoughr. I had a lot of left over bulb covers from when I did the HVAC conversion but now I have my gauges apart and am going to be stuck with either a bluish color or white. Does anyone know where I could get bulb covers for these bulbs? They are much larger than the ones for the HVAC, I would guess about 15mm high and 10mm across. Or do you think I should just get some paint and do them that way? No matter what I am taking the green film off the back but I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the BD cluster. In case you dont know legacy abbreviations its a legacy sedan from 96-99. Thanks for any help you guys can give me. Oh and the base of the bulb is not like the ones for the switches or HVAC, it looks the same and then there is a rectangular part used to remove it from the cluster instead of using a screw driver like the other ones.
HAHA yea me too with my 98 rs but i filed film off before bulb covers came in and now i dont know what to do?! paint or do they have bulb covers BUT NOW I HAVE THESE BULBS COVERS I DO NOT NEED it kinda suckS! HELP me and the legacy with this mod we would like our clusters looking sexy to dammit!


do it for the monkey haha that **** is to funny
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Old 09-01-2005, 07:40 PM   #170
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okay... i just re-did mine...

following the steps in Rubr_Duky's supplement thread-

THERE IS A MUCH BETTER WAY TO DO THIS!!!

if you unclip the metal needle barrels on the back of the PCV board(the green/brown electical board that the gauges are mounted on), you can then push out the guage faces, needles, and clear plastic molding all as one unit... this allows you direct access to some of the gauge face backing and a much more workable object!!!!

the clips don't look that sturdy, so you shouldn't bend them back and forth and back and forth, but if you are slow and gentle when you force them in and out of position, you shouldn't run into any problems.

also, there is an easy way to change the LCD's color, just lift up the lcd screen(the glass with polarization filter stuck on it) up from the non-metalpinned side and use a tweezer or knife to pick up and grab or pull the green plastic sheet out from behind it. then use a bulb condom as normal.

i'll get pictures tonight so you can all see it better, but if you bend the metal flaps straight on the back of the cluster(there are two, each facing inwards, for every needle on the cluster, totally four needles and eight tabs/flaps) you can pop the things out. it helps to dismantle the white plastic housing of the electical board, there are round holes behind the needle barrels and i just used a short phillips head, turned on end, to pop them out.

IT'S SO MUCH EASIER THAN SNAKING BEHIND THE FACE WITH THE ASSEMBLY INTACT!!!!

just wanted to tell everyone to check out Rubr_Duky's suppement thread, it has a much better way of doing the whole mod.

it should be stressed that the cluster is DELICATE!!!

be meticulous, clean, gentle and calm and you will be rewarded with MUCH better results.

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Old 09-02-2005, 01:39 AM   #171
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To save you from searching: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821215

Thanks for the kind words, glad to help.

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Old 09-05-2005, 06:22 AM   #172
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is the bulb for the boost gauge a bulb that i can buy from wal mart or schucks? i plan on making the 3 gauges in my center pod i brighter green thats easier to read and will match my alpine deck and HVAC controls.
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Old 09-08-2005, 03:37 AM   #173
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i dont like this mod. when i first do it. nice deep red with 2 covers on each bulb/ than after a month it looks crappy fadded. i need something better than bulb covers
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Old 09-08-2005, 08:15 AM   #174
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LED's should solve that, the reason they look faded is because they slip off a little, try re-setting them on the bulb if you dont want to mess with LED's.
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Old 09-09-2005, 02:53 AM   #175
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i installed mine the other day on the hvac and the condoms seemed to fall right off after like 10 mins.... HAS THIS HAPPENED TO ANYONE? All of a sudden from a red color it changes to a pale orange... please help someone
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