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Old 01-01-2005, 05:21 PM   #1
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Angry After gauge change.. no speedometer

I had to get the needles off of my 03 cluster. Everything's looking great and works except for the speedometer. The check engine light was on but after a short drive and a few restarts its no longer on. The speedometer doesnt work still. I flicked the needle (while the car was running) and it just goes back to the spot over zero. I unplugged and replugged the three plugs in the back and everything is fine. My cruise control works but speedometer does not. What do I do next?
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Old 01-01-2005, 05:23 PM   #2
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Let me guess, sanding off green film behind the face? The internals probaly went below the 0 mph and now even if your going sixty its going -10MPH? If you were trying to sand the film off might as well shoot yourself right now... http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=690378
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Old 01-01-2005, 05:28 PM   #3
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You probably b0rked the speedo, it happens often when people mess with the needles. Unless you get really, really lucky you will be buying a new cluster. Check the Private Classifieds, I recall seeing at least one for sale recently.
As for the CEL, nothing you did with the cluster should have caused that. Even a broken speedo won't matter since the ECU has its own connection to the VSS. Also just because the light went out doesn't mean all is ok. The code is still in memory as long as you didn't pull the battery, so I suggest you head over to Autozone and have them pull the code for you, and then post the number here.
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Old 01-01-2005, 05:32 PM   #4
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Do at your own risk, get traveling behind a friends car at a designated speed (60mph) with the speedo needle out, then have a passenger stick in the needle at exactly 60 while holding the speed. If this dosent change anything then its probably borked good. When I was experimenting with my tutorial (BTW, Mulder got those stickied in electrical ) I tried pulling out the temp and fuel needles, big mistake but thats the way I reset them. Not sure about the fuel yet, I got a related question for you Mulder, is that little orange low fuel light independent of the gauge itself or is it interlinked into it?
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Old 01-01-2005, 05:43 PM   #5
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Borked? How could i have broken it? IT just pulls off and pops back on. I will try what Monkey suggested.
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Old 01-01-2005, 06:08 PM   #6
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I recently rubbed off the film in my 00 cluster, of course I pulled the needles off, for the first few days I was really stressing out over things.. but I just drove around for a week without putting on the plastic cover and 'tweaked' the needles as needed, after the 5th day of tweaking and pulling and putting the damn needles back on, everything is back to NORMAL, the rpm went back to normal, and now idles normal, the coolant temp, went back to normal, and now idles normal, the speedo is normal, the GAS GAUGE was a pain, but now its back to normal... tommorow im gonna attach the plastic bezels..

just dont expect over night perfection and youll be alright- and when putting the needles back on heres what helped me.... start car--- let it idle, "softly" start pushing the needles back into the zero positions.. youll have to tweak them after that step.. its a pain in the ass, but its worth it-
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Old 01-01-2005, 06:18 PM   #7
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Those needles and the mechanisms behind them are very delicate, they aren't meant to be taken apart. Just by applying the necessary force to remove and replace them can do damage.
And BTW it was McDade who set up the stickies, gotta give props where they're due.
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Old 01-01-2005, 06:22 PM   #8
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I recently rubbed off the film in my 00 cluster, of course I pulled the needles off
Of course??? I made a tutorial of doing it without removing them.

Was just informing you that it all worked out, he ended up moving them to the electrical, even though there are more color change posts in interior. Thanks for leading me in the right way tho, but u never did answer my Q a coupla posts up...

Slam- Just dont hurt the scooby in the process...

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Old 01-01-2005, 07:28 PM   #9
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I dunno, I guess I didnt spot the tut in time, I did mine last weekend or so, I forget..

hah just read the tuts, wow, that could saved me som fARGIN TIME and THUMB pain HAHAHAH.. damn man.. one part though about borrowing a hand--

would it be feasible to just use your foot to smoosh the gauges down enough for the sandpaper to work.. (might have to crouch or something)

what did you end up doing with all the extra flakes? just run a small vacuum job on the sucker? DAMN... for my next car, Ill use yer method.

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Old 01-01-2005, 07:38 PM   #10
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If you're asking whether the low fuel light has any connection to the gauge mechanically, the answer is no. The fuel gauge and low fuel light are independently driven from a CPU in the cluster.
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Old 01-01-2005, 08:29 PM   #11
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Keke - I ended up using a the back of my screwdriver to push it down with the other end in my mouth. I have an air compressor that I set at really low psi to blow it out, I imagine that a hairdrier(cold setting) or just closing your eyes and blowing could do the same. BTW learned that the hard way.

Mulder- Thanks.
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Old 02-12-2005, 09:24 PM   #12
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k its been weeks and still no reading on speedo. hasnt moved. Would an apexi rsm be a good replacement for my speedometer. Seen some cheaper than a full gauge cluster plus gauges many other vitals.
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