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Old 01-03-2005, 11:22 PM   #1
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Hi everyone!

When my car came from Japan, it had in Bosch amber head lights, which I had to change before the cops reported me.

I replaced them with Ice blue aftermarket lights that cost around $21USD.

I think because my car is so low, my light travel is not what it should be and I also just need more light.

So I research PIAA and decided to order from PDM-Racing.com (very good company) some PIAA lights.


PIAA SUPER EXTREME WHITE 15760 SUPER H4 BULBS
Super Xtreme technology features an Xtreme low beam and a Super White high beam.
• Wattage rating: 60/55 watt = 135/125 watt
• Colour Spectrum: 4200 Kelvin low beam, 3950 Kelvin high beam
• Technology: Xtreme White with XTRA Technology
SUPER EXTREME WHITE 15760 . . . . . . $67.75/pair


Now I am thinking of also upgrading my Fogs to some high wattage ones to get a better view in dark areas.

Now what I want to know, what is the best combination of colours to use. A white head lamp with amber fog lights or white all around?

I know the amber really bring to life stuff on the road, but I never had amber fog lights. Have any one tried this configuration and which one is the best?


PIAA H3 ION CRYSTAL
PIAA’s patented Ion Crystal technology is a great way to improve your visibility in inclement weather. Ion Crystal puts out an amber/yellow light that is less reflective than white light thus greatly reducing the amount of glare in extreme fog.
Single Pack 13555
Bulb Type 12V - H3
Wattage 55w = 85w
Technology Ion Crystal with XTRA Technology



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Old 01-03-2005, 11:43 PM   #2
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You dont' need to spend too much on the PIAAs
Just use the H3 Narva gold for the fogs and the H4 Osram/Philips/GE +50/+60% for the headlights then this combination will be more than enough and you will be very happy with it and also the cost of those bulbs is just half of the price of the PIAA combo
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Old 01-03-2005, 11:44 PM   #3
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http://www.danielsternlighting.com

Cheaper bulbs... much cheaper. (not PIAA's, but Osram Silverstar).

Anyway, Yellow fogs would work great, might even want to do what i'm going to do, 100w yellow fogs for the stockers, and mount up some Hella 500 clear driving lights for high-beam help.

So yeah, white head lamp w/ amber fogs.

(btw, post a pic or 2 of your car, we all love JDM scoobys!!!)
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Old 01-03-2005, 11:47 PM   #4
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Its the same as a WRX, but without the hood and wing, which I am suppose to get. How can I post it? I do not have a website.
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Old 01-03-2005, 11:49 PM   #5
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http://we-todd-did-racing.com/

Just sign up for an accout, upload it to their site, and post it here.
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Old 01-03-2005, 11:53 PM   #6
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I read some reviews on Osram Silverstar there there weren't good.

Hence my choice on PIAA or Phillips

I also visited that site already. I research lighting for the whole weekend
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Old 01-03-2005, 11:57 PM   #7
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I signed up and now uploading. Thanks alot.
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Old 01-04-2005, 12:08 AM   #8
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If you dont mind me asking, could you post a link to the site(s) with the bad reviews of osrams's bulbs? Just doing more research (mostly because i'm bored, )
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Old 01-04-2005, 12:10 AM   #9
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Old 01-04-2005, 12:13 AM   #10
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The stated that the light are just a slight improvement over the stock. The PIAA is as close as you can get to HID.

I will try and see if I can findt he review, since I normal clean my history.

But I did a search on that brand + PIAA SUPER EXTREME WHITE

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Old 01-04-2005, 12:25 AM   #11
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sylvania silverstars are these the same as yours?

The reivews was on them.

Just doing some general search to get back to where I was for that review.

http://www.miata.net/products/lights/piaa.html

Is here 1:45 in the morning. I will try and see if I can find that review for your tomorrow.

Thanks for your input.

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Old 01-04-2005, 12:37 AM   #12
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So tooocool49723 and v6, do you have any pics on that lighting combination?

in the Caribbean, we do not get fog, but rain as you expect.
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Old 01-04-2005, 12:46 AM   #13
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I dont have the hella's installed yet, but I'll be sure to take a picture when I do install them.

Sylvania silverstars (although a daughter company of Osram) are NOT the same thing. OSRAM silverstars are european market, and arent quite legal in the US (but no cop would be able to tell the difference, nor would they care). Sylvania silverstars are coated blue to produce a HID-look light. Any coating on a bulb decreases efficency. The OSRAM bulbs are much brighter than the sylvania ones.

This thread has examples of mouted lights..
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=673117

I hope to have somthing like this, but without the skidguard (for the time being). I'm going to be mounting them onto the lower part of the bumper.
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Old 01-04-2005, 12:53 AM   #14
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I saw that one in my research. But here, the stupid law, which is old, you are to only have to head lamps. So no fogs.

I do not use my fogs, but sometime in certain areas, I wish there could do more.

I also need to angle them up. There really pointing down, which is good.
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Actually, those HID "look" bulbs are not as bright at all, they don't even bright enough on the road, they just look bright when you look at the headlight. But when you are inside the car and look at the road, they may even dimmer. You think that whiter is brighter, but this only applies on the real HID, not on those Halogen bulbs. You can try installing the original bulb on one side and those HID look bulbs on the other side and try to look from inside of the car, you will notice that the stock one although its yellowish, but the most of the lights are on the road. But the HID bulbs you can barely see the beam pattern on the road. Not even bright enough for dark situation.

So actually if you really like the HID look and performance, then save up more money and try to get a real HID set (H4 type HID with high and low beam with the lowest "K" available 4100-4700K) from ebay that cost below $300 and you will really know what HID are. Don't be fool by the "K", higher the "K" is just make the light more blue/purple but not effective at all.

So don't be jealous of HID users, for those price of HID kit are only the price of a few sets of PIAAs (eg a HID kit cost about 230 is just about 3-4 sets of PIAAs and remember those PIAAs don't last long)

Using those Osram/Philips/GE bulbs is good enough already

You can review of the comparison here
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I am aware of all of that. I have been looking @ the BWM and Mercedes for awhile to see if going to a White HID would worth it.

I do see them light up, especially the 8000K ones, but still the distance is not there.

So again, I spend the whole weekend research to get the right setup and I decided to get rid on my aftermarket ones, which are bright and try the real ones.

Then if the PIAA and others look good and I am still suffering, I will then upgrade to the HID White, not blue, not purple, but white.

Hey is a link our og my Subaru Get sTuff Manual http://www.kastleskorner.com/store/p...roducts_id=289

Ooooh, read that link already, but it would be good for anyone who is now researching HID's, Halogens and lighting formats and so on.

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Old 01-08-2005, 02:05 PM   #17
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Hi everyone.

Another site for PIAA bulbs from Japan.

http://www.hitechimportlighting.com/piaa.htm
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PIAA bulbs are overpriced and you can expect to be replacing them frequently, they do not last that long. Most aftermarket bulbs, especially the "hyperwhite", "superwhite", or "HID look" ones will have a much shorter life span compared to OEM bulbs while not putting out as much usable light.
While the Osram Silverstars and similar bulbs may still not have quite the life of standard bulbs they will last much longer than those mentioned above and give you more light. Either the Osrams, Philips Hi-Visibililty, or Hella +50 will be a good choice over any of the white/blue bulbs.
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15224 PIAA Xtreme White Plus H4 BULBS
19172 PIAA Xtreme White 168 Wedge Bulbs
15223 PIAA Xtreme White Plus H3 bulbs

Finally, I have installed the PIAA over the aftermarket lights I had before.

What a difference. The lights infront looks like your normal lights plus the light from the car behind. I had to turn them off to make sure, since I was vex that there had more cars on the road to test my lights in a dark area.

The PIAA also have a sparkling effect to the other aftermarket bulbs I had.

The PIAA H4 have a slight blue haze, producing a grayish effect.

My fogs have been adjust to point up to 15ft away, to fill in the missing gap. My car is already lowered with STI Adj suspension, so light travel was a little less on the fogs before adjustment.

The park light was a little too blue, so I removed the blue film, leaving some of it to the top of the bulbs. I would recommend leaving half of the blue coating on, if you want white light.

When these here fail, I will try some Philips Hi-Visibililty, or Hella +50

I have yet to really test the full setup until tomorrow night.

I will take some pics and post them.

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I did some more testing and increase my fogs coverage to up to 20+Ft.

Nice. I am very happy with this setup. The PIAA Xtreme White Plus really lghts up the road and the coverage is great, even to the sides of the road.

Its illegal here to use fogs, so I am very happy with the PIAA.

I would only use the Fogs in very very dark areas and turn them off when I approach a car.
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