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Old 01-05-2005, 07:29 PM   #1
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Ok, i've been thinking of getting some projector fogs. I probably wont (already getting 500's and upgrading stock lighting soon), but would like to know what your opinions are on the optilux line. I've found this post

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Again, this is just the projector lights, not the angel eye ones, or the bulbs.

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Old 01-05-2005, 09:36 PM   #2
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I have the 1182s on my GD bugeye and 1102s on my SG Forester. The oem reflector fogs are still there. The optiluxes and the oem reflector fogs on both all use 55W H3 bulbs, so generally the bulbs should perform about the same.

The difference is in the color output and beam pattern.

Both optiluxes, and possibly the rest of the projector fog-type optiluxes emit yellow beam in spite of a regular looking H3 bulb (i.e. the glass has no yellow coating).

While the oem reflector fogs on the GD & SG do a reasonably good job in generating a wide pattern with minimal output above the horizontal plane, the optilux projectors have a shield inside which allows for a very sharp cutoff on the horizontal plane. This in turn allows them to be aimed slightly farther away without blinding others. As a result, you retain the wide spread, but can cover almost as far as the oem low beams. In fact, in deep-fog-invested backroads, I find it useful to use the optiluxes and just put the headlights to the lowest setting (to turn on the front and rear clearance lamps).
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Here's the yellow hue of the Optilux 1182 projector fogs compared to the oem GD headlights with oem bulbs, & oem GD reflector fogs with yellow tinted lens. Although the tinted lens on the fogs have a very deep yellow hue, the optilux still appear more yellow when lit. The picture was taken with a camera flash, hence the glowing plates and side mirror reflectors.

Effect of sharp cutoff projected onto a wall. One unit was incorrectly rotated in this image:
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I'll be installing a set of Optilux projector fogs in place of my OEM fogs. I'll post a review as soon as it stops raining and I can install them. They look to be good quality in build and finish.
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I'll be installing a set of Optilux projector fogs in place of my OEM fogs. I'll post a review as soon as it stops raining and I can install them. They look to be good quality in build and finish.
Just as a precaution, it might be a good idea to open them up and apply some light silicone sealant around where the housing components mate. I've had a minor leakage issue on one of the 2 pairs I have, and found that it is easy to remedy. But then again, the other pair seems to be ok so far.
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Old 04-02-2005, 02:56 PM   #6
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Thanks for the tip.

Wouldnt your fogs be more effective if they were mounted lower?
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Old 04-03-2005, 12:49 AM   #7
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Wouldnt your fogs be more effective if they were mounted lower?
Afaik, two arguments for not mounting fogs too high are:
(1) The higher they are mounted, the more likely they will cause glare in front of you during severe weather. --> glare to owner
(2) Higher mounting requires the fogs to be aimed more downwards than otherwise, and it will increase the amount of light reflected back from the surface to oncoming traffic. --> glare to others

However, I found that the yellow output of the fogs mounted where I have now, compared to the oem low beams, barely generate any glare. In very dense fog for example, the low beams may cause quite some glare while the fogs will cut through much better. Perhaps this is a combination of the difference in color, and the fact that the Optilux projector fogs have a very sharp cutoff.

In regards to glare to others, I have inspected the fogs in operation from outside of the car many times, and it does not seem to appear blinding or generate a lot of reflected glare. This is definitely not always true for other types. For example, a mere 35W PIAA reflector pair (002X) mounted at the same height appear blinding to oncoming traffic under similar conditions.

One benefit of mounting the projector fogs about that height is that the longitudinal reach is almost as far as the oem low beams, but with a much wider coverage. Certainly useful in rain, fog, snow, or just the twisties imho.
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Based on the characteristics of a yellow projector beam fog w/ a sharp cutoff as you described I'm sure they do fine, but would do better mounted low, for the purpose of being able to cut underneath and below the fog, mist, snow, rain, etc. Whereas, mounted higher it has more "matter" to penetrate.
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Old 04-04-2005, 10:04 PM   #9
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Effect of sharp cutoff projected onto a wall. One unit was incorrectly rotated in this image:
you should put that in your profile, as well as "yes i know the pics are fuzzy"

so samir you are installing them in place of teh "big fogs"? does anyone know if they fit the 04's in the stock location? i need some foggs mounted a little lower, preferably in the stock location or in the lower grill and i know these little lamps would be perfect. here is the current setup i have

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you should put that in your profile, as well as "yes i know the pics are fuzzy"
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does anyone know if they fit the 04's in the stock location?
If you're talking about the Optilux projectors, even the 1000 / 1002 series have a smaller footprint than the OEM fog projectors afaik. With a little bit of drilling and bracket bending, I don't see how it would be impossible. It probably is easier than fabricating those brackets for your FFs. If you're willing to drill more holes on the fog trim, you may even be able to mount 2 pairs, with the outside pair aimed a bit to the sides.
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Old 04-05-2005, 01:38 AM   #11
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what, if any, will be the difference in light output between the optilux 1000,1100, and 1180, if any? size isn't really a large concern of mine.
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Old 04-05-2005, 01:50 AM   #12
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I had a set of these on my Grand prix.....They were as bright as daylight. One of the halo's stopped working after 3 months though.
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what, if any, will be the difference in light output between the optilux 1000,1100, and 1180, if any? size isn't really a large concern of mine.
I beleive the optics are all the same, just the shape ans size of the housings are different.

Best place to get them is www.rallylights.com They have some of them on clearance sale right now. I buy all my lighting stuff from them. Ask for Wil.
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Old 04-06-2005, 12:06 AM   #14
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what, if any, will be the difference in light output between the optilux 1000,1100, and 1180, if any? size isn't really a large concern of mine.
I have both the 1002 & 1182. While the housing of the 1000's are a little larger & longer, there was no noticeable difference in brightness. The 1002 had a clear/purplish lens, while the 1182 had a bluish lens. Both use clear, regular-looking H3 55W bulbs, but generate strong yellow light.

If I were to guess, the ones with larger housing has a slight edge in heat dissipation, making them better for long duration use. Either way, I haven't had any problems with overheating.

Also, if all else is equal, the larger ones potentially can direct light more efficiently. Comparing my 1002 & 1182, since the 1002 has a larger inner reflector, and both use similar sized plano convex lens, I would expect the 1002 to be slightly brighter. So, if you're shopping within one brand, I'd get the biggest one you can fit.
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just ordered some 1100's from Wil at rallylights!
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Update: finally installed Optilux 1000 projectors (clear bulb/clear lens) and installed them in place of the factory WRX fogs, using the wiring harness and included relay. I eliminated the cheesy switch and ran the switched wire to the OEM fog lamp circuit so I can control them with the factory fog switch.

The fogs have a SUPER SHARP beam cutoff, they put alot of light on the road for being 55watt and are a significant improvement over the stock. The OEM fogs had what seemed like a farther reach but they also put out alot of stray light that caused glare and reflection in foggy or rainy conditions. I HATED that about the OEM fogs. With the all the light is concentrated down on the road with no stray light. Aiming was easy although I may have them pointed a little low, I am playing around with different adjustments. Bottom line, you cant beat the light for the money.

Two thumbs up, and thanks to Wil at Susquehanna Motorsports for helping me out and replacing the broken ones I sent back.
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pics?
These?
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...79#post9690979

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I'll make it even easier for ya

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...wrxhellas2.jpg

I'll get night pics when I get a chance.
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yeah i saw those after i posted in here .......you need to make a fog cover or something like satrya
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I know....I'm working on how to make it look more finished. I'm not done with it yet, I just wanted to get them installed and working. Driving with just low beams around town I felt like I was blind!
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you need to make a fog cover or something
Samirr76, how about either:

(1) Get the Subaru mesh fog cover and call it a day,

or

(2) Make a bracket to center the projector, get a solid fog cover, drill a hole in the center of the solid fog cover, & round out the edges of the hole. It'll be similar to the P1 (.. or is it RB5?) GC. It would look good for a relatively simple DIY imho.
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/\ P1, RB5 had round covers that fit on the lights instead of the square covers.

And I just saw a new-age STi with the same thing done, where he cut out holes for some projector fogs. It was on a rally car, blue, just too bad I dont remember where.
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i saw that on the Hella catalouge that rally lights sends you
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(2) Make a bracket to center the projector, get a solid fog cover, drill a hole in the center of the solid fog cover, & round out the edges of the hole. It'll be similar to the P1 (.. or is it RB5?) GC. It would look good for a relatively simple DIY imho.
I think option two is the way I'll go. Or move fogs to center bumper opening and get some larger fogs for the OEM spots.
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