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Old 01-09-2005, 09:24 PM   #1
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Been doing some suspension research for my own needs and thought I would share the data I've collected on various springs and coilovers. The list is far from complete so if anyone has any data, let me know and I'll update the list.

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                                                  Spring Rate (lbs/in)     Drop (in.)                                        
Manufacturer   Model                              Front     Rear           Front     Rear      Pillowball     Dampening      Notes
Subaru         2.5 RS GC stock                    157       149
Subaru         2.5 RS GD stock                    149       117
Subaru         WRX sedan 5MT stock                163       119
Subaru         WRX sedan 4EAT stock               163       129
Subaru         WRX wagon 5MT stock                163       132
Subaru         WRX wagon 4EAT stock               163       144
Subaru         WRX STi USDM stock                 224       195
                                                                           
Spring:
Eibach         Pro '02-'03 Sedan                  171       91-188         1.3       1.0       n/a            n/a            7710.140
Eibach         Pro '02-'03 Wagon                  171       160            1.1       1.1       n/a            n/a            7711.140
Eibach         Pro '04 Sedan                                               1.3       1.0       n/a            n/a            
Eibach         Pro '04 STi                        234       229            1.1       0.6       n/a            n/a            
Espelir        ASD GC                             168       157            1.0       1.2       n/a            n/a            Linear
Espelir        ASD '02-'03                        185       145            0.8       0.8       n/a            n/a            Linear
Espelir        ASD '04+                           252       145            1.4       0.8       n/a            n/a            Linear
Espelir        GT '04+                            280       230            1.2       0.8       n/a            n/a            Linear
H&R            Sport                                                       1.5       1.4       n/a            n/a            Progressive
Hotchkis       Street '02-'03                     230       147            1.5       0.75      n/a            n/a
Perrin                                                                     1.9       1.5       n/a            n/a            
Prodrive       P1 (GC)                            215       195            1.4       1.2       n/a            n/a            
Prodrive       V7 (test data)                     175       175            ~0.75     ~0.75     n/a            n/a
RSR            Down '02                           216       177            1.8       1.2       n/a            n/a            Progressive
RSR            Ti2000 '02                         216       177            1.8       1.2       n/a            n/a            Progressive
RSR            Ti2000 '04                         268       195            1.6       1.4       n/a            n/a            Progressive
Subaru         SPT WRX '02-'03                    193       161            1.4       1.2
Subaru         STi "pink" V6                      196       174            1.2       1.2
Subaru         STi "pink" V7                      200       185            0.8       0.8
Subaru         STi "pink" V8                      257       217            0.8       0.8
Subaru         STi "pink" WRX sedan               223       192            0.6       0.6
Subaru         STi "pink" WRX wagon               223       192            0.6       0.6
Subaru         STi V6 Tarmac                      286       274                      
Subaru         STi V7 Standard                    188       173                      
Subaru         STi V7 Type RA                     217       190            0.4       0.4
Subaru         WRX STi V8 Spec C                  224       195                      
Subaru         STi "Tuned by Arai" '04            324       274            0.6       0.6
Subaru         STi Pink '04+                      257       217            0.8       0.8       n/a            n/a            "Linear"
Subaru         STi Pink '02-'03                   200       185            0.8       0.8       n/a            n/a            "Linear"
Tanabe         NF210 GC                           168       134            1.3       1.0
Tanabe         NF210 '02-'03                      140       112            1.5       1.0
Tanabe         DF210 GC                           196       140            1.5       1.0
Tanabe         DF210 '02-'03                      196       146            2.0       1.0
Tanabe         GF210 GC                           196       162            1.3       1.0
Tanabe         GF210 '02-'03                      168       157            1.5       1.0
Tanabe         GF210 '04+                         240       224            1.3       1.0
Tein           H Tech '02-'03 Sedan               196       140            1.1       0.6       n/a            n/a            
Tein           H Tech '04+ Sedan                  230       196            1.8       0.7       n/a            n/a            
Tein           H Tech '04 STi                     230       196            1.0       0.4       n/a            n/a            
Tein           H Tech '05 STi                     230       196            1.1       0.6       n/a            n/a            
Tein           H Tech '02-'03 Wagon               196       140            1.1       0.6       n/a            n/a            
Tein           H Tech '04+ Wagon                  230       196            1.0       0.9       n/a            n/a            
Tein           S Tech '02-'03 Wagon               218       157            1.7       0.8       n/a            n/a            
Tein           S Tech '04+ Wagon                  252       218            1.6       1.5       n/a            n/a            
Tein           S Tech '02-'03 Sedan               218       157            2.0       0.7       n/a            n/a            
Tein           S Tech '04+ Sedan                  252       218            2.4       1.3       n/a            n/a            
Tein           S Tech '04 STi                     252       218            1.6       0.9       n/a            n/a            
Tein           S Tech '05 STi                     252       218            1.7       1.2       n/a            n/a            

Coilovers:
AST            Powerstation                       275       225
Bilstein       PSS9                               400       370                                No             9              Progressive        
Cusco          Zero 1 '02+                        392       280            2.4       3.0       Yes            0              
Cusco          Zero 2-'02+                        392       280            2.4       3.0       Yes            5             
Cusco          Zero 2 R '02+                      392       280            2.0       2.8       Yes            5              
DMS            50 Street Spec                     224       180
DMS            50 Gravel Rally Spec (smooth)      224       180
DMS            50 Gravel Rally Spec (rough)       275       224
DMS            50 Tarmac Rally Spec               700       650
Ground Cntrl   '02-'03                                                                         n/a            n/a
Ground Cntrl   '04+                                                                            n/a            n/a
Ground Cntrl   '04 STi                            300       300            1.5       1.5       n/a            n/a
HKS            HiperDamper                                                                     Yes            30             
H&R                                               450       400            1.2-2.5   1-2       No             No
JIC            FLT A1                             392       280                                Yes            Yes            
JIC            FLT A2                             392       280                                Yes            Yes            
Ohlins         Road and Track WRX                 230       171
Ohlins         Road and Track STi                 400       360
Tanabe         Sustec Pro S OC                    448       336
Tanabe         Sustec Pro S OC II                 448       336
Tanabe         Sustec Pro SS                      448       336
Tanabe         Sustec Pro SS II                   448       336
Tanabe         Sustec Pro RR                      672       560
Tein           Basic '02-'03 Sedan                280       280            2.5       1.1       No             No             
Tein           Basic '04+ Sedan                   280       280            2.2       1.5       No             No             
Tein           Basic '04 STi                      280       280            1.6       0.7       No             No             
Tein           Basic '05 STi                      336       280            1.9       1.1       No             No             
Tein           Basic '04+ Wagon                   280       280            1.7       1.3       No             No             
Tein           SS '02-'03 Sedan                   280       280            2.5       1.1       No             16             
Tein           SS '04+ Sedan                      280       280            2.2       1.5       No             16             
Tein           SS '04 STi                         280       280            1.6       0.7       No             16             
Tein           SS '05 STi                         336       280            1.9       1.1       No             16             
Tein           SS '02-'03 Wagon                   280       280            1.7       1.3       No             16             
Tein           SS '04+ Wagon                      280       280            1.7       1.3       No             16             
Tein           SS+ '02-'03 Sedan                  280       280            2.6       1.3       Yes            16             
Tein           SS+ '04+ Sedan                     280       280            2.4       1.7       Yes            16             
Tein           SS+ '04 STi                        280       280            1.7       0.8       Yes            16             
Tein           SS+ '05 STi                        336       280            1.9       1.1       Yes            16             
Tein           SS+ '02-'03 Wagon                  280       280            2.0       1.1       Yes            16             
Tein           SS+ '04+ Wagon                     280       280            1.8       1.5       Yes            16             
Tein           Flex '02-'03 Sedan                 559       447            2.0       1.1       Yes            16             
Tein           Flex '04+ Sedan                    559       447            2.4       1.7       Yes            16             
Tein           Flex '04 STi                       559       448            1.7       0.8       Yes            16             
Tein           Flex '05 STi                       559       448            1.8       1.1       Yes            16             
Tein           Flex '02-'03 Wagon                 559       448            1.8       1.5       Yes            16             
Tein           Flex '04+ Wagon                    559       447            2.0       1.1       Yes            16             
Tein           RA '02-'03 Sedan                   447       335            2.3       0.8       Yes            16             
Tein           RA '04+ Sedan                      447       335            2.3       0.8       Yes            16             
Tein           RA '04 STi                         447       335            1.7       0.4       Yes            16             
Tein           RA '02-'03 Wagon                   447       335            1.7       0.6       Yes            16             
Tein           RA '04+ Wagon                      447       335            1.7       0.6       Yes            16             
Whiteline      Group4                             280       224
Zeal           B6 Street                          448       336                                Yes            6              
Zeal           B6 Race                            560       448                                Yes            6              
Zeal           V6 Street                          448       336                                Yes            6              
Zeal           V6 Race                            560       448                                Yes            6
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:15 PM   #2
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I am assuming this data is for the Impreza models?
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Old 01-09-2005, 10:58 PM   #3
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Oops, should of mentioned that. Basically only for WRX's. Made an assumption I shouldn't have. Wanna do the legacy?

I'll do some digging and see what I can come up with.
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Old 01-10-2005, 01:43 AM   #4
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Good job.

Spelling "Espelir" - see http://www.mackinindustries.com/espelir_spring.html for confirmation.

Subaru WRX Pink, rates 200 front 185 rear

Correction, Tanabe GF210 front rate is 240 (4.3kg)

Prodrive, cannot find rates, drop is 15mm front 10mm rear

Subaru, stock STi rates 224 front 194 rear

Gruppe-s has some misc spring info
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Thanks! I'll update the list when I get home.
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Old 01-11-2005, 07:50 PM   #6
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Conversion for springs:
kg/mm * 56 = lbs/in
lbs/in / 56 = kg/mm
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Old 01-11-2005, 08:30 PM   #7
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motion to sticky or include in one of the suspension faqs
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yea it would be nice if theres was a uniform number for spring rates, either lbs/in, kg/mm or both.
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I've converted eveything to lbs/in. Sorry about that.

If anyone has any data to add, let me know and I'll add it to the list
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The Ground Controls are not set at 300. You can buy pretty much whatever you'd like.
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Old 01-12-2005, 11:40 AM   #11
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The Ground Controls are not set at 300. You can buy pretty much whatever you'd like.
That's true but the off the shelf values are 300. Custom rates are only a few bucks more (IIRC $20ish)
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Old 01-12-2005, 06:10 PM   #12
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It be cool to throw this on a website using a Coldfusion database and make it searchable. IE Car type + Suspension type = rates (with measurement selector.)

Andy

Can anyone do that?
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Here's my 2 cents.

FYI: you have a lot of Tein coilovers listed as type: spring

SPRINGS
----------------------------- Spring Rate F/R (lb/in) -- Drop F/R (in)
Subaru 2.5 RS GC stock ---------------- 157/149
Subaru 2.5 RS GD stock ---------------- 149/117
Subaru WRX sedan 5MT stock ------------ 163/119
Subaru WRX sedan 4EAT stock ----------- 163/129
Subaru WRX wagon 5MT stock ------------ 163/132
Subaru WRX wagon 4EAT stock ----------- 163/144
Subaru WRX STi USDM stock ------------- 224/195
Subaru SPT springs for WRX (02) ------- 193/161 --- 1.4/1.2
Subaru STi "pink" Lowering Springs V6 - 196/174 --- 1.2/1.2
Subaru STi "pink" Lowering Springs V7 - 200/185 --- 0.8/0.8
Subaru STi "pink" Lowering Springs V8 - 257 217 --- 0.8/0.8
Subaru STi "pink" Springs WRX sedan --- 223/192 --- 0.6/0.6
Subaru STi "pink" Springs WRX wagon --- 223/192 --- 0.6/0.6
Subaru STi V6 Tarmac ------------------ 286/274
Subaru STi V7 Standard ---------------- 188/173
Subaru STi V7 Type RA ----------------- 217/190 --- 0.4/0.4
Subaru WRX STi V8 Spec C -------------- 224/195
Subaru STi "Tuned by Arai" (04) ------- 324/274 --- 0.6/0.6
Eibach ProKit (7710.140) 02 WRX ------- 171/91-188 1.3/1.0
Eibach ProKit (7711.140) 02 Wagon ----- 171/160 --- 1.1/1.1
RS-R Down (02) ------------------------ 216/177 --- 1.8/1.2
RS-R Ti2000 (02) ---------------------- 216/177 --- 1.8/1.2
RS-R Ti2000 (04) ---------------------- 268/194 --- 1.6/1.4
Prodrive P1 (GC) ---------------------- 215/195 --- 1.4/1.2
Tanabe NF210 (GC) --------------------- 168/134 --- 1.3/1.0
Tanabe NF210 (02) --------------------- 140112 --- 1.5/1.0
Tanabe DF210 (GC) --------------------- 196/140 --- 1.5/1.0
Tanabe DF210 (02) --------------------- 196/146 --- 2.0/1.0
Tanabe GF210 (GC) --------------------- 196/162 --- 1.3/1.0
Tanabe GF210 (02) --------------------- 168/157 --- 1.5/1.0
Tanabe GF210 (04) --------------------- 240/224 --- 1.3/1.0
Espilir ASD (GC) ---------------------- 168/157 --- 1.0/1.2
Espilir ASD (02) ---------------------- 185/145 --- 0.8/0.8
Espilir ASD (04) ---------------------- 252/196 --- 1.4/0.8
Espilir GT (04) ----------------------- 280/230 --- 1.2/0.8
Hotchkis Street (02) ------------------ 230/147 --- 1.5/0.75
Progress ------------------------------ 210/150 --- 1.8/1.5

COILOVERS
DMS 50 Street Spec -------------------- 224/180
DMS 50 Gravel Rally Spec (smooth) ----- 224/180
DMS 50 Gravel Rally Spec (rough) ------ 275/224
DMS 50 Tarmac Rally Spec -------------- 700/650
JIC FLT-A1 ---------------------------- 392/280
JIC FLT-A2 ---------------------------- 392/280
Ohlins Road & Track (WRX) ------------- 252/224
Ohlins Road & Track (STi) ------------- 400/360
Tanabe Sustec Pro S-OC ---------------- 448/336
Tanabe Sustec Pro S-OC II ------------- 448/336
Tanabe Sustec Pro SS ------------------ 448/336
Tanabe Sustec Pro SS II --------------- 448/336
Tanabe Sustec Pro RR ------------------ 672/560
Whiteline Group 4 --------------------- 280/224
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I've noticed springs are usually rates as lbs/in and coilovers as kg/mm. Everyone in the forums use this also.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Avery
Here's my 2 cents.

FYI: you have a lot of Tein coilovers listed as type: spring
Woo woo. That's what I'm looking for. I was pretty sure alot of people had their own "list" somewhere. Just thought it would be nice to combine everything into a single list that everybody could reference.

Good catch on the Tein. Copy and paste error. Sorry about that.

I'll make the correction and add your list when I get home tonight.
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I got the specs wrong for the Ohlins Road & Track for WRX. It's 230/171.
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Mark, great addition to the list.

DrSeuss, 2 more.

AST Powerstation - coilover - 275 225

Eibach Pro '04+ STi 234 229 1.2 0.8
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Just updated with Kwak's and Mark's data. Thanks. I'll try to dig up some data on 2.5RS and the Legacy over the weekend.
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DrSeuss, your effort is appreciated!
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Prodrive v7 175/175 (from testing)

drop - I've seen varying reports, most sites list ~ 20mm
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Prodrive v7 175/175 (from testing)

drop - I've seen varying reports, most sites list ~ 20mm
I have JDM STI V7 suspension on my 2005 WRX. I am looking for lowering springs (prefer 1.3 drop in front 1.0 drop in rear) and stiffer rates than what came on the suspension. Any and all help would be deeply appreciated.
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Here's a link to the STi coilovers for 2004 cars. Listed as 384/286
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=655964

Spring rates for Bilstein's PSS9 is listed here as 400lb/ft front and 370 lb/ft rear.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...tein+pss9+rate

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If it helps my tape measure indicates a 1.5 inch drop in front with Prodrive springs in my 5MT WRX. It is a significant drop -- more than I expected. In fact, I had a hard time getting the floor jack out from under the front end when I was done.

I just installed them and am going back out to the garage to do the rears.
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damn, i thought the prodrives were only suposed to drop about 1 inch all the way around. at least thats what they state.
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Somebody might want to update this thread with the rates for the Tanabe GF210 for the 05' STI. Rates are 323 Front 245 Rear
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