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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 70170
Join Date: Sep 2004
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Maryland
Vehicle:2005 WRX Wagon Black |
Been doing some suspension research for my own needs and thought I would share the data I've collected on various springs and coilovers. The list is far from complete so if anyone has any data, let me know and I'll update the list.
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Spring Rate (lbs/in) Drop (in.)
Manufacturer Model Front Rear Front Rear Pillowball Dampening Notes
Subaru 2.5 RS GC stock 157 149
Subaru 2.5 RS GD stock 149 117
Subaru WRX sedan 5MT stock 163 119
Subaru WRX sedan 4EAT stock 163 129
Subaru WRX wagon 5MT stock 163 132
Subaru WRX wagon 4EAT stock 163 144
Subaru WRX STi USDM stock 224 195
Spring:
Eibach Pro '02-'03 Sedan 171 91-188 1.3 1.0 n/a n/a 7710.140
Eibach Pro '02-'03 Wagon 171 160 1.1 1.1 n/a n/a 7711.140
Eibach Pro '04 Sedan 1.3 1.0 n/a n/a
Eibach Pro '04 STi 234 229 1.1 0.6 n/a n/a
Espelir ASD GC 168 157 1.0 1.2 n/a n/a Linear
Espelir ASD '02-'03 185 145 0.8 0.8 n/a n/a Linear
Espelir ASD '04+ 252 145 1.4 0.8 n/a n/a Linear
Espelir GT '04+ 280 230 1.2 0.8 n/a n/a Linear
H&R Sport 1.5 1.4 n/a n/a Progressive
Hotchkis Street '02-'03 230 147 1.5 0.75 n/a n/a
Perrin 1.9 1.5 n/a n/a
Prodrive P1 (GC) 215 195 1.4 1.2 n/a n/a
Prodrive V7 (test data) 175 175 ~0.75 ~0.75 n/a n/a
RSR Down '02 216 177 1.8 1.2 n/a n/a Progressive
RSR Ti2000 '02 216 177 1.8 1.2 n/a n/a Progressive
RSR Ti2000 '04 268 195 1.6 1.4 n/a n/a Progressive
Subaru SPT WRX '02-'03 193 161 1.4 1.2
Subaru STi "pink" V6 196 174 1.2 1.2
Subaru STi "pink" V7 200 185 0.8 0.8
Subaru STi "pink" V8 257 217 0.8 0.8
Subaru STi "pink" WRX sedan 223 192 0.6 0.6
Subaru STi "pink" WRX wagon 223 192 0.6 0.6
Subaru STi V6 Tarmac 286 274
Subaru STi V7 Standard 188 173
Subaru STi V7 Type RA 217 190 0.4 0.4
Subaru WRX STi V8 Spec C 224 195
Subaru STi "Tuned by Arai" '04 324 274 0.6 0.6
Subaru STi Pink '04+ 257 217 0.8 0.8 n/a n/a "Linear"
Subaru STi Pink '02-'03 200 185 0.8 0.8 n/a n/a "Linear"
Tanabe NF210 GC 168 134 1.3 1.0
Tanabe NF210 '02-'03 140 112 1.5 1.0
Tanabe DF210 GC 196 140 1.5 1.0
Tanabe DF210 '02-'03 196 146 2.0 1.0
Tanabe GF210 GC 196 162 1.3 1.0
Tanabe GF210 '02-'03 168 157 1.5 1.0
Tanabe GF210 '04+ 240 224 1.3 1.0
Tein H Tech '02-'03 Sedan 196 140 1.1 0.6 n/a n/a
Tein H Tech '04+ Sedan 230 196 1.8 0.7 n/a n/a
Tein H Tech '04 STi 230 196 1.0 0.4 n/a n/a
Tein H Tech '05 STi 230 196 1.1 0.6 n/a n/a
Tein H Tech '02-'03 Wagon 196 140 1.1 0.6 n/a n/a
Tein H Tech '04+ Wagon 230 196 1.0 0.9 n/a n/a
Tein S Tech '02-'03 Wagon 218 157 1.7 0.8 n/a n/a
Tein S Tech '04+ Wagon 252 218 1.6 1.5 n/a n/a
Tein S Tech '02-'03 Sedan 218 157 2.0 0.7 n/a n/a
Tein S Tech '04+ Sedan 252 218 2.4 1.3 n/a n/a
Tein S Tech '04 STi 252 218 1.6 0.9 n/a n/a
Tein S Tech '05 STi 252 218 1.7 1.2 n/a n/a
Coilovers:
AST Powerstation 275 225
Bilstein PSS9 400 370 No 9 Progressive
Cusco Zero 1 '02+ 392 280 2.4 3.0 Yes 0
Cusco Zero 2-'02+ 392 280 2.4 3.0 Yes 5
Cusco Zero 2 R '02+ 392 280 2.0 2.8 Yes 5
DMS 50 Street Spec 224 180
DMS 50 Gravel Rally Spec (smooth) 224 180
DMS 50 Gravel Rally Spec (rough) 275 224
DMS 50 Tarmac Rally Spec 700 650
Ground Cntrl '02-'03 n/a n/a
Ground Cntrl '04+ n/a n/a
Ground Cntrl '04 STi 300 300 1.5 1.5 n/a n/a
HKS HiperDamper Yes 30
H&R 450 400 1.2-2.5 1-2 No No
JIC FLT A1 392 280 Yes Yes
JIC FLT A2 392 280 Yes Yes
Ohlins Road and Track WRX 230 171
Ohlins Road and Track STi 400 360
Tanabe Sustec Pro S OC 448 336
Tanabe Sustec Pro S OC II 448 336
Tanabe Sustec Pro SS 448 336
Tanabe Sustec Pro SS II 448 336
Tanabe Sustec Pro RR 672 560
Tein Basic '02-'03 Sedan 280 280 2.5 1.1 No No
Tein Basic '04+ Sedan 280 280 2.2 1.5 No No
Tein Basic '04 STi 280 280 1.6 0.7 No No
Tein Basic '05 STi 336 280 1.9 1.1 No No
Tein Basic '04+ Wagon 280 280 1.7 1.3 No No
Tein SS '02-'03 Sedan 280 280 2.5 1.1 No 16
Tein SS '04+ Sedan 280 280 2.2 1.5 No 16
Tein SS '04 STi 280 280 1.6 0.7 No 16
Tein SS '05 STi 336 280 1.9 1.1 No 16
Tein SS '02-'03 Wagon 280 280 1.7 1.3 No 16
Tein SS '04+ Wagon 280 280 1.7 1.3 No 16
Tein SS+ '02-'03 Sedan 280 280 2.6 1.3 Yes 16
Tein SS+ '04+ Sedan 280 280 2.4 1.7 Yes 16
Tein SS+ '04 STi 280 280 1.7 0.8 Yes 16
Tein SS+ '05 STi 336 280 1.9 1.1 Yes 16
Tein SS+ '02-'03 Wagon 280 280 2.0 1.1 Yes 16
Tein SS+ '04+ Wagon 280 280 1.8 1.5 Yes 16
Tein Flex '02-'03 Sedan 559 447 2.0 1.1 Yes 16
Tein Flex '04+ Sedan 559 447 2.4 1.7 Yes 16
Tein Flex '04 STi 559 448 1.7 0.8 Yes 16
Tein Flex '05 STi 559 448 1.8 1.1 Yes 16
Tein Flex '02-'03 Wagon 559 448 1.8 1.5 Yes 16
Tein Flex '04+ Wagon 559 447 2.0 1.1 Yes 16
Tein RA '02-'03 Sedan 447 335 2.3 0.8 Yes 16
Tein RA '04+ Sedan 447 335 2.3 0.8 Yes 16
Tein RA '04 STi 447 335 1.7 0.4 Yes 16
Tein RA '02-'03 Wagon 447 335 1.7 0.6 Yes 16
Tein RA '04+ Wagon 447 335 1.7 0.6 Yes 16
Whiteline Group4 280 224
Zeal B6 Street 448 336 Yes 6
Zeal B6 Race 560 448 Yes 6
Zeal V6 Street 448 336 Yes 6
Zeal V6 Race 560 448 Yes 6
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Last edited by DrSeuss; 07-21-2006 at 09:11 PM. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 30669
Join Date: Dec 2002
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: 07456, North NJ
Vehicle:1998 Legacy 2.5GT Silver Sleeper Wagon |
I am assuming this data is for the Impreza models?
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 70170
Join Date: Sep 2004
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Maryland
Vehicle:2005 WRX Wagon Black |
Oops, should of mentioned that. Basically only for WRX's. Made an assumption I shouldn't have. Wanna do the legacy?
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 73476
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Good job.
Spelling "Espelir" - see http://www.mackinindustries.com/espelir_spring.html for confirmation. Subaru WRX Pink, rates 200 front 185 rear Correction, Tanabe GF210 front rate is 240 (4.3kg) Prodrive, cannot find rates, drop is 15mm front 10mm rear Subaru, stock STi rates 224 front 194 rear Gruppe-s has some misc spring info |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 70170
Join Date: Sep 2004
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Maryland
Vehicle:2005 WRX Wagon Black |
Thanks! I'll update the list when I get home.
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 73476
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Conversion for springs:
kg/mm * 56 = lbs/in lbs/in / 56 = kg/mm |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 48219
Join Date: Nov 2003
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Vehicle:. Always drive the race line . |
motion to sticky or include in one of the suspension faqs
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 70252
Join Date: Sep 2004
Vehicle:05 STI blue |
yea it would be nice if theres was a uniform number for spring rates, either lbs/in, kg/mm or both.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 70170
Join Date: Sep 2004
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Maryland
Vehicle:2005 WRX Wagon Black |
I've converted eveything to lbs/in. Sorry about that.
If anyone has any data to add, let me know and I'll add it to the list |
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 47769
Join Date: Nov 2003
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vehicle:!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
The Ground Controls are not set at 300. You can buy pretty much whatever you'd like.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 70170
Join Date: Sep 2004
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Maryland
Vehicle:2005 WRX Wagon Black |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 5476
Join Date: Apr 2001
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Castle Rock, Colorado
Vehicle:2004 Impreza WRX STI Black. |
It be cool to throw this on a website using a Coldfusion database and make it searchable. IE Car type + Suspension type = rates (with measurement selector.)
Andy Can anyone do that? |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 10313
Join Date: Sep 2001
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Vehicle:2002 WRX wagon silver |
Here's my 2 cents.
FYI: you have a lot of Tein coilovers listed as type: spring SPRINGS ----------------------------- Spring Rate F/R (lb/in) -- Drop F/R (in) Subaru 2.5 RS GC stock ---------------- 157/149 Subaru 2.5 RS GD stock ---------------- 149/117 Subaru WRX sedan 5MT stock ------------ 163/119 Subaru WRX sedan 4EAT stock ----------- 163/129 Subaru WRX wagon 5MT stock ------------ 163/132 Subaru WRX wagon 4EAT stock ----------- 163/144 Subaru WRX STi USDM stock ------------- 224/195 Subaru SPT springs for WRX (02) ------- 193/161 --- 1.4/1.2 Subaru STi "pink" Lowering Springs V6 - 196/174 --- 1.2/1.2 Subaru STi "pink" Lowering Springs V7 - 200/185 --- 0.8/0.8 Subaru STi "pink" Lowering Springs V8 - 257 217 --- 0.8/0.8 Subaru STi "pink" Springs WRX sedan --- 223/192 --- 0.6/0.6 Subaru STi "pink" Springs WRX wagon --- 223/192 --- 0.6/0.6 Subaru STi V6 Tarmac ------------------ 286/274 Subaru STi V7 Standard ---------------- 188/173 Subaru STi V7 Type RA ----------------- 217/190 --- 0.4/0.4 Subaru WRX STi V8 Spec C -------------- 224/195 Subaru STi "Tuned by Arai" (04) ------- 324/274 --- 0.6/0.6 Eibach ProKit (7710.140) 02 WRX ------- 171/91-188 1.3/1.0 Eibach ProKit (7711.140) 02 Wagon ----- 171/160 --- 1.1/1.1 RS-R Down (02) ------------------------ 216/177 --- 1.8/1.2 RS-R Ti2000 (02) ---------------------- 216/177 --- 1.8/1.2 RS-R Ti2000 (04) ---------------------- 268/194 --- 1.6/1.4 Prodrive P1 (GC) ---------------------- 215/195 --- 1.4/1.2 Tanabe NF210 (GC) --------------------- 168/134 --- 1.3/1.0 Tanabe NF210 (02) --------------------- 140112 --- 1.5/1.0 Tanabe DF210 (GC) --------------------- 196/140 --- 1.5/1.0 Tanabe DF210 (02) --------------------- 196/146 --- 2.0/1.0 Tanabe GF210 (GC) --------------------- 196/162 --- 1.3/1.0 Tanabe GF210 (02) --------------------- 168/157 --- 1.5/1.0 Tanabe GF210 (04) --------------------- 240/224 --- 1.3/1.0 Espilir ASD (GC) ---------------------- 168/157 --- 1.0/1.2 Espilir ASD (02) ---------------------- 185/145 --- 0.8/0.8 Espilir ASD (04) ---------------------- 252/196 --- 1.4/0.8 Espilir GT (04) ----------------------- 280/230 --- 1.2/0.8 Hotchkis Street (02) ------------------ 230/147 --- 1.5/0.75 Progress ------------------------------ 210/150 --- 1.8/1.5 COILOVERS DMS 50 Street Spec -------------------- 224/180 DMS 50 Gravel Rally Spec (smooth) ----- 224/180 DMS 50 Gravel Rally Spec (rough) ------ 275/224 DMS 50 Tarmac Rally Spec -------------- 700/650 JIC FLT-A1 ---------------------------- 392/280 JIC FLT-A2 ---------------------------- 392/280 Ohlins Road & Track (WRX) ------------- 252/224 Ohlins Road & Track (STi) ------------- 400/360 Tanabe Sustec Pro S-OC ---------------- 448/336 Tanabe Sustec Pro S-OC II ------------- 448/336 Tanabe Sustec Pro SS ------------------ 448/336 Tanabe Sustec Pro SS II --------------- 448/336 Tanabe Sustec Pro RR ------------------ 672/560 Whiteline Group 4 --------------------- 280/224 |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 73476
Join Date: Oct 2004
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I've noticed springs are usually rates as lbs/in and coilovers as kg/mm. Everyone in the forums use this also.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 70170
Join Date: Sep 2004
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Maryland
Vehicle:2005 WRX Wagon Black |
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Good catch on the Tein. Copy and paste error. Sorry about that. I'll make the correction and add your list when I get home tonight. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 10313
Join Date: Sep 2001
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Vehicle:2002 WRX wagon silver |
I got the specs wrong for the Ohlins Road & Track for WRX. It's 230/171.
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 73476
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Mark, great addition to the list.
DrSeuss, 2 more. AST Powerstation - coilover - 275 225 Eibach Pro '04+ STi 234 229 1.2 0.8 |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 70170
Join Date: Sep 2004
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Maryland
Vehicle:2005 WRX Wagon Black |
Just updated with Kwak's and Mark's data. Thanks. I'll try to dig up some data on 2.5RS and the Legacy over the weekend.
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 73476
Join Date: Oct 2004
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DrSeuss, your effort is appreciated!
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Scooby Guru
Member#: 7958
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Plains of Eastern Montana
Vehicle:09 GH B+ |
Prodrive v7 175/175 (from testing)
drop - I've seen varying reports, most sites list ~ 20mm |
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Scooby Newbie
Member#: 88517
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 152
Join Date: Aug 1999
Vehicle:2002 WRB WRX Sedan D Stock |
Here's a link to the STi coilovers for 2004 cars. Listed as 384/286
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=655964 Spring rates for Bilstein's PSS9 is listed here as 400lb/ft front and 370 lb/ft rear. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...tein+pss9+rate Last edited by Impreza01; 06-09-2005 at 04:47 AM. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 6140
Join Date: Apr 2001
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
Location: Middletown, MD, USA
Vehicle:2002 WRX 5MT Sedan WR Blue. Cobb Stage 2 |
If it helps my tape measure indicates a 1.5 inch drop in front with Prodrive springs in my 5MT WRX. It is a significant drop -- more than I expected. In fact, I had a hard time getting the floor jack out from under the front end when I was done.
I just installed them and am going back out to the garage to do the rears. |
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 74215
Join Date: Nov 2004
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: S. California
Vehicle:2007 987 Silver-ish |
damn, i thought the prodrives were only suposed to drop about 1 inch all the way around. at least thats what they state.
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Scooby Specialist
Member#: 28976
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: New York
Vehicle:2005 Scooby Gone but not forgotten |
Somebody might want to update this thread with the rates for the Tanabe GF210 for the 05' STI. Rates are 323 Front 245 Rear
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