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Old 01-10-2005, 09:57 PM   #1
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Default GB: QuickTime Performance Equal Length Header/Uppipe Combo - 649!!!


THIS GROUP BUY IS NOW CLOSED. THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE WHO GOT INVOLVED!!!

This is the same high quality header/uppipe combo for the WRX and STi which usually sells for 994.99!!!


It comes pre-treated inside and out with Jet Hot 2000 for excellent heat retention. Maintaining high exhaust gas temperatures increases exhaust flow for better power throughout the RPM band, and quicker spoolup. This coating is so rugged it is designed to protect up to 2,450 degrees fahrenheit. Jet Hot 2000 is an expensive upgrade on some manifolds, costing hundreds of dollars, but it comes standard from QTP (QuickTime Performance).

QTP spares no expense by using full 304 stainless tubing under the Jet Hot coating. This manifold is built to last. Stainless steel also further aids in heat retention by conducting less heat than mild steel.

4 to 2 to 1 design with equal length runners organize exhaust pulses for smooth flow and power delivery.

One piece header/uppipe design means you get two pieces at one great low price. It also means you'll never have a header to uppipe leak, and it allows for a more unified design eliminating rough changes in the inner diameter of the tubing.

Includes bung for stock EGT probe. Direct bolt on replacement for the exhaust manifold and uppipe on the US WRX and STi. This item is not sedan/wagon specific and works great on both.

When you consider the cost of the average equal length header and uppipe, you're easily over 700 dollars. Then throw the Jet Hot process plus shipping your header back and forth to Jet Hot in the mix and this deal is a no brainer at 649.

This group buy begins today (Monday, January 10th, 2005) and ends in one month on Thursday, February 10th, 2005). Shipping is $25 in the continental USA and competitive rates are available for Hawaii/Alaska and select countries abroad. All order must be pre-paid in full. If anyone has any questions, feel free to contact us. Don't miss out on this great deal!

There is no limit per person, and there is no limit to how many people can get this deal. As long as you prepay before the 10th, you're all set. We have already received enough orders to secure the group buy price!

Required OEM 4 piece gasket kit to complete the install - 64 shipped!


Prepaid and ready to go:
1) shiro9 - shipped
2) Kamani - shipped
3) Lum - shipped
4) thechoochman28 - shipped
5) dr_wheel - shipped
6) nosmo - shipped
7) Walleman - shipped
8) Mabilangan - shipped
9) Scootersti - shipped
10) pisadong - shipped
11) Lobitz - shipped
12) Aidan - shipped
13) Martha - shipped
14) Chow - shipped
15) Stinger - shipped
16) Baylon - shipped



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Old 01-11-2005, 03:16 AM   #2
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how is this different from others such as mad dad's new header?

also, anyone with experience running this with Cobb stage 2.5?
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Old 01-11-2005, 03:18 AM   #3
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great price BTW. i see that your header will work with most aftermarket U/P?
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Old 01-11-2005, 10:39 AM   #4
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how is this different from others such as mad dad's new header?

also, anyone with experience running this with Cobb stage 2.5?
The mad dad pieces are not coated. A mild or stainless steel header (uncoated) will lose a great deal more heat than the factory manifold, which actually detracts from low end performance. The QTP header/uppipe with it's Jet Hot 2000 coating provides gains throughout the power band.

The mad dad piece is also only 4 to 1 instead of 4 to 2 to 1. This is a simpler design, which brings the cost down, but it doesn't have the top end flow of 4 to 2 to 1 designs like the QTP. Also, for those who've delt with header to uppipe leaks in the past, there is no header to uppipe junction on the QTP because it's one piece.

Lastly, QTP has shown track and dyno proven performance with this header that is unrivaled to the best of our knowledge. 12.782 @ 106.62 MPH on the stock turbo and motor. 249.8whp/276.4lb/ft of torque on a Dynojet. Some people may say that dyno numbers can be tampered with, but there's the track time to back it up, with a video no less:
http://www.quicktimeperformance.com/pics/wrx1278.wmv

Don't wonder if your header/uppipe is going to help or hurt performance. With the QTP parts there is no doubt.

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great price BTW. i see that your header will work with most aftermarket U/P?
This header INCLUDES an integrated uppipe. You are getting a header and an uppipe in one piece. This is a direct bolt on replacement of the entire exhaust manifold AND the uppipe.

-Mike
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Old 01-11-2005, 01:23 PM   #5
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This is the greatest group buy in the world. Im definatley in. Why isnt QTP doing this group buy?
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Old 01-11-2005, 01:28 PM   #6
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This is the greatest group buy in the world. Im definatley in. Why isnt QTP doing this group buy?
I'm glad you're happy with it. I think it's a slammin deal myself Give us a call to make payment and we'll get the list going.

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Old 01-12-2005, 02:48 PM   #7
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I just put down my payment on it. This is a great deal people. Dont pass it up.
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Old 01-12-2005, 04:56 PM   #8
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HOLY CRAP

I've seen some deals in my time, and this one is right up there. I've talked to Barry about the cost of these on the phone before and lets just say that this deal will never appear ever again.

If you want an equal length header now or in the future, you best JUMP on this deal!
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Old 01-13-2005, 07:36 PM   #9
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Would these ship out right when the Group Buy ends (on the 10th) or some time after that?
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Old 01-13-2005, 10:06 PM   #10
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do they make unequal length headers?
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Old 01-13-2005, 10:26 PM   #11
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Would these ship out right when the Group Buy ends (on the 10th) or some time after that?
They are available now and we plan to ship them all out as soon as the group buy ends.

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do they make unequal length headers?
No. Equal length design has proven time and time again to make more power, and at this price you aren't bucking up a ton of money to get the extra quality. It's a win win for you guys.

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Old 01-14-2005, 04:09 AM   #12
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EGR bung? I'm guessing it will fit my LGT, but has anyone test fitted the QTP headers to an LGT?

On edit: Dammit... I meant to say EGT bung, not EGR bung

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Old 01-14-2005, 09:20 AM   #13
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EGR bung? I'm guessing it will fit my LGT, but has anyone test fitted the QTP headers to an LGT?
EGR is something entirely different and unrelated, but I'm guessing you meant EGT. There's only one bung in the factory uppipe and none in the manifold. It's for the stock EGT bung. As I said in the initial post, the QTP piece has this same bung in the factory location so no modifications are necessary. It simply bolts right on.

EDIT: This will fit a new legacy GT turbo.

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Old 01-14-2005, 09:31 AM   #14
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OK, so no unequal length option... Any sound clips of how the exhaust note is changed? It's only win/win to me if my car still sounds nice (imo).
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Old 01-14-2005, 10:51 AM   #15
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Is there a no bung option? I wish mfgs wouldn't put bungs in uppipes--makes no sense. Just have to throw a bolt in it. Either way, I'm pretty sure I'm in. I'll be contacting you.
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Old 01-14-2005, 11:54 AM   #16
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OK, so no unequal length option... Any sound clips of how the exhaust note is changed? It's only win/win to me if my car still sounds nice (imo).
The only clip I have is the video link I posted and it looks like they're running the stock muffler in an enclosed space. It sounds high pitched and "tinny" due to the space they're in. If anything, adding this header will give you a deeper tone. The exhaust note is changed far more dramatically by the muffler you use than by the header, so you can't base liking/disliking the header on how it sounds on one car.

I'll see if I can round up a sound clip from somewhere.


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Is there a no bung option? I wish mfgs wouldn't put bungs in uppipes--makes no sense. Just have to throw a bolt in it. Either way, I'm pretty sure I'm in. I'll be contacting you.
These units have already been produced and they all have bungs. You can just put a bolt in them if you wish. There is also a $25 option for an adaptor which screws in so you can use a k type thermocouple in that bung if you wish.

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Old 01-14-2005, 02:00 PM   #17
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HOLY CRAP

I've seen some deals in my time, and this one is right up there. I've talked to Barry about the cost of these on the phone before and lets just say that this deal will never appear ever again.

If you want an equal length header now or in the future, you best JUMP on this deal!
I second what you said. This is a awsome one time buy. Get it now before this group buy is gone. I'm thinking of ordering a couple for this price.

Good luck

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Old 01-14-2005, 02:37 PM   #18
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I have two questions:
1. What is the difference between this header and the GPmoto header/UP combo that you offer on your website? performance gains, etc.
2. I have a 3" catless downpipe with an electronic cutout in it right now, basically identical to QTPs parts, and was curious if i would need to monitor my EGTs with the header, uppipe, and above mentioned downpipe in place?
thanks,
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Old 01-14-2005, 05:34 PM   #19
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I have two questions:
1. What is the difference between this header and the GPmoto header/UP combo that you offer on your website? performance gains, etc.
2. I have a 3" catless downpipe with an electronic cutout in it right now, basically identical to QTPs parts, and was curious if i would need to monitor my EGTs with the header, uppipe, and above mentioned downpipe in place?
thanks,
aidan
Aidan:

1) The two pieces are relatively similar in design, but the coating and shipping back and forth to Jet Hot usually costs a couple hundred bucks. You can get the QTP piece with the Jet Hot 2000 through this group buy for less than the cost of the uncoated GP Moto. Both are good units, but the coating gives the QTP piece a solid edge in performance and here you don't have to pay a premium for it.

2) Installing a catless downpipe LOWERS EGTs due to decreased backpressure. The engine flows exhaust gas more freely, so it backs up less and the heat gets out of the system easier. The same goes for a header/uppipe that flows well, so if anything your EGTs will decrease. That said, an EGT gauge is an excellent monitoring/tuning device to have and I recommend them to all my customers who are making tuning/mechanical adjustments that increase cylinder and exhast gas temperatures.

-Mike

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thanks for the quick response mike, very much appreciated.
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Old 01-14-2005, 05:56 PM   #21
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You're quite welcome.
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Old 01-16-2005, 05:40 PM   #22
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so if im getting htis correctly, the qtp manifold has one bung for the stock egt (located via passenger tire well). I have an egt gauge coming in and wondering what options i had to tap the exhaust. Ive heard that accuracty of egts is greatest, the closer u are to the engine. Many have advised that the driver side exhaust manifold is the best place to tap. If i installed these headers, would my only option be to use the uppipe bung?
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Old 01-16-2005, 07:15 PM   #23
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I'm interested if you can verify '05 LGT fitment. I believe the turbo is in the same place since I haven't heard of a WRX header/up-pipe combo that didn't fit.

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Old 01-16-2005, 11:01 PM   #24
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would it be at all possibe to get another bung welded in for an aftermarket EGT sensor? Since you highly recomend one. Use the stock one, and let the accessport take care of the check engine light?
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Old 01-17-2005, 10:36 AM   #25
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so if im getting htis correctly, the qtp manifold has one bung for the stock egt (located via passenger tire well). I have an egt gauge coming in and wondering what options i had to tap the exhaust. Ive heard that accuracty of egts is greatest, the closer u are to the engine. Many have advised that the driver side exhaust manifold is the best place to tap. If i installed these headers, would my only option be to use the uppipe bung?
You are correct about proper EGT probe placement. We've been using cylinder 4 about 1-2 inches from the head which is the the driver side rear runner. You can have a local shop weld an egt bung on prior to installing this piece. Then simply put the stock egt probe in the stock location or plug that hole with a bolt if you don't want to use it.


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I'm interested if you can verify '05 LGT fitment. I believe the turbo is in the same place since I haven't heard of a WRX header/up-pipe combo that didn't fit.
It seems I remembered the Legacy GT's layout wrong...it will fit.

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would it be at all possibe to get another bung welded in for an aftermarket EGT sensor? Since you highly recomend one. Use the stock one, and let the accessport take care of the check engine light?
Yup.

We can provide weld on EGT bungs and high quality probes for those interested.

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