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Old 01-12-2005, 01:16 AM   #1
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Could someone verify for me that this would work.
Overall what I am trying to do is use my FF1000ís off the hella switch independently to act as fog lights in the winter and, after re aiming , use them as driving lights in the warmer months to be triggered by my high beams.
If I chose to I could flip switch 1 and use a relay that would be triggered by the high beams.
The top right was cut off in the photo but it is the wire that goes to pin 86 of the hella relay.
It is the wire that was designed by hella to be hooked up to a headlight positive signal
See the diagram proived by satrya in thread. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=676460

I am particularly interested in knowing if the green/red wire (pin13) on the stalk switch connector B71 can be used as a negative trigger.

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Old 01-12-2005, 11:56 AM   #2
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I am particularly interested in knowing if the green/red wire (pin13) on the stalk switch connector B71 can be used as a negative trigger.
I was going to suggest pin 8 at connector B71 since it that seems to be the line originally intended to connect to the switched ground signal end of the high beam relay (pin 3 @ B103). But it looks like pins 13 & 8 are connected by virtue of the common connection to the diode behind B95.

Personally, I'd rather worry about mounting one switch instead of two. This means abandoning the standard switch provided in the Hella kit, and get a Single Pole Dual Throw switch (which allows for 2 input sources), preferrably with "center-off" (which allows for 3 positions: independent fog, off, and high-beam dependent fog). So the switched ground pin on the diagram below would be connected to pin 8 @ B71 (or 13 @ B71).
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Old 01-12-2005, 01:04 PM   #3
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Wow , thank you satrya. That was exactley what I was trying to achieve.
I must say that when I see your diagrams , and then look at mine, I feel like a fourth grader with a crayon. lol
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Old 01-12-2005, 01:36 PM   #4
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You're welcome.
It's quite amazing what the drawing features in MS Word & Excel can do.

Regarding the SPDT switch, I've seen nice ones out there that has backlighting for when one of the non-off positions are selected. I can't remember which site sells really nice looking ones, but these sites may have been where I saw them:
http://www.painlesswiring.com
http://digikey.com
http://www.parts_express.com <--- remove the underscore for the real url
http://www.mcmaster.com

Here's one from Painless Wiring (#80408 - On/Off/On Single Pole - Amber Lights). There may be nicer ones in other sites. I thought I can find one with different light colors for the 2 different "on" positions.
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Old 01-12-2005, 06:59 PM   #5
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It's quite amazing what the drawing features in MS Word & Excel can do
All this time I thought you were using a CAD program.
I will check out those web sites for a nice switch, one with two different lights if possible..
thanks again..
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All this time I thought you were using a CAD program.
Not for the wiring diagram. Imho, the drawing tools in MS Word & Excel, with the available shapes & inter-connect lines, make sketching wiring diagrams much easier than using MS Paint or the like. Real electronics & wiring softwares are overkill for this imho.

For the 3D drawings though, they are done using this shareware program called DoGA:
http://www.doga.co.jp/english/index.html
Not as powerful as Pro/E, SolidWorks, etc., but it allows making simple objects like one below relatively quickly.
http://home.comcast.net/~satrya/art/zeta_pod.jpg
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