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Old 08-15-2005, 07:08 PM   #1
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I just got my first Suby. It's a 97 Impreaza L wagon. I'm also learning how to drive stick. I can shift while moving like butter, but man, starting to move is like riding a freakin' bull. Any pointers for getting the car going smoother?
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:10 PM   #2
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Check the FAQ there is a whole section on learning to drive stick I believe.

Quick tip: The "bucking bronco" response means you are taking your foot off the clutch too quickly. Make sure at the point when your foot is almost off the clutch that you release it more slowly than normal. If you do this properly, the car wont jerk. Take the time to "feel" when your car goes into gear, and after a while it will become habit. Good luck, and congrats on the subie!
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:14 PM   #3
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Go to a parking lot...DO NOT TOUCH THE GAS PEDAL. Just get the car rolling time after time with clutch only. You'll learn where it picks up, and to control your foot speed. Learn without gas first, then add a little gas, and a little faster take off motion. In an hour or so, you'll be doing just fine
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:15 PM   #4
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Push down the clutch put in gear give it gas and let clutch go!!!!!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:16 PM   #5
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Push down clutch pedal , put in gear, REV motor to 6500 rpms and let go of clutch fast.
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:17 PM   #6
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Push down the clutch put in gear give it gas and let clutch go!!!!!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
Yeah, that's basically how it went. Except for the whole WEEEEEEE thing. Oh, and there was a lot of bucking and stalling and stuff. Yeah, so I guess it was really nothing like that.
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:18 PM   #7
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Go to a parking lot...DO NOT TOUCH THE GAS PEDAL. Just get the car rolling time after time with clutch only. You'll learn where it picks up, and to control your foot speed. Learn without gas first, then add a little gas, and a little faster take off motion. In an hour or so, you'll be doing just fine
Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:20 PM   #8
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I like the parking lot "from idle" idea or maybe 1500 steady rpm and let clutch slowly out to get a feel for the clutch ingaging, ed
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:55 PM   #9
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Go to a parking lot...DO NOT TOUCH THE GAS PEDAL. Just get the car rolling time after time with clutch only. You'll learn where it picks up, and to control your foot speed. Learn without gas first, then add a little gas, and a little faster take off motion. In an hour or so, you'll be doing just fine
Hmm, thats odd... I learned to drive stick on my last Impreza, and what I started off doing was using MORE gas. Its alot easier to learn by giving it more gas at first than less gas, cause less gas you stall of course. Over time, its easier to use less gas than use the gas pedal more... At least thats what I thought when I did it.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:30 PM   #10
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Just remember a clutch is 2 plates rubbing each other to make friction . Just let out the clutch slowly, after a little practice you will get the hang of it. Start saving for a new clutch, cause being your first you'll be waering it down pretty quickly.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:32 PM   #11
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Just remember a clutch is 2 plates rubbing each other to make friction . Just let out the clutch slowly, after a little practice you will get the hang of it. Start saving for a new clutch, cause being your first you'll be waering it down pretty quickly.
See, I find when I let the clutch out too slowly I got bumpin' and Grindin going on. I guess it's just going to take a while.
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Old 08-16-2005, 01:21 AM   #12
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See, I find when I let the clutch out too slowly I got bumpin' and Grindin going on. I guess it's just going to take a while.
There ain't nothin' wrong.... with a little bump n' grind....
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Old 08-16-2005, 03:04 AM   #13
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Practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice.
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Old 08-16-2005, 05:36 AM   #14
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a little bucking and stalling's ok, just don't ride the clutch, and then this:
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Practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice.
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Ironically last weekend I taught an ex-g/f to drive stick. I was looking for more pointers yesterday here on NASIOC to see if there's anything I could tell her to help out when I found the guide to new to stick, then this post comes up. She caught on within about 30 minutes. Still has trouble with hills + freaking out though.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:38 AM   #17
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Hmm, thats odd... I learned to drive stick on my last Impreza, and what I started off doing was using MORE gas. Its alot easier to learn by giving it more gas at first than less gas, cause less gas you stall of course. Over time, its easier to use less gas than use the gas pedal more... At least thats what I thought when I did it.
That's what I did, too. I found a parking lot with a large flat area as well as a small hill and practiced for hours. For a few months, I'd rev to 2500rpm and slowly let out the clutch. The clutch has lasted 53K miles now, which is about 20k more than I was expecting.
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Old 08-16-2005, 09:47 AM   #18
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Push down clutch pedal , put in gear, REV motor to 6500 rpms and let go of clutch fast.



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Old 08-16-2005, 10:15 AM   #19
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Ironically last weekend I taught an ex-g/f to drive stick. I was looking for more pointers yesterday here on NASIOC to see if there's anything I could tell her to help out when I found the guide to new to stick, then this post comes up. She caught on within about 30 minutes. Still has trouble with hills + freaking out though.
Did you let her learn on your car?

Nobody drives my car but me. I let my bro once because he let me learn manual on his, but that's it.
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Old 08-16-2005, 10:34 AM   #20
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practice for a few hours in a parking lot and you will be fine, have someone that knows how to do it, do it, and watch what they do..

dont be afraid to stall

stall it the first time so you can see where the friction point is

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Old 08-16-2005, 11:26 AM   #21
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Ironically last weekend I taught an ex-g/f to drive stick. I was looking for more pointers yesterday here on NASIOC to see if there's anything I could tell her to help out when I found the guide to new to stick, then this post comes up. She caught on within about 30 minutes. Still has trouble with hills + freaking out though.
Ex? Is she an ex because of last weekend?

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Old 08-16-2005, 11:46 AM   #23
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Ironically last weekend I taught an ex-g/f to drive stick. I was looking for more pointers yesterday here on NASIOC to see if there's anything I could tell her to help out when I found the guide to new to stick, then this post comes up. She caught on within about 30 minutes. Still has trouble with hills + freaking out though.
Actually, that would be more like coincidentally I'm just playin'

Day 2 went a lot better, once I got that GOD DAMN FLOOR MATT out of the way. Thanks for the replies.

I'm not n00b enough to rev to 6500 and DROP IT LIKE IT'S HOT ChgoJay, but OH man, if the wrong person reads this thread.

Can you see the post?

I revved to 6500 and let go of the clutch really fast. Why won't my car work anymore?
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Hmm, thats odd... I learned to drive stick on my last Impreza, and what I started off doing was using MORE gas. Its alot easier to learn by giving it more gas at first than less gas, cause less gas you stall of course. Over time, its easier to use less gas than use the gas pedal more... At least thats what I thought when I did it.
By giving it more gas you're less likely to stall. So yes it is easier. You'll wear out your clutch quicker though.

However, I think you learn better if you try it without gas. You learn to vary the speed at which you let up on the clutch (it's not one constant motion). <-- IMO, this is key in smoothly starting from a stop. You also realize you don't need to give the car a lot of gas to get it going.

When I first started out, I was giving it a lot more gas than I really needed. Luckily someone told me I didn't need much.
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:45 PM   #25
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You know i started on a car with 100k on it and the clutch did not go till i started power shifting. What ever you do dont get so good at standard that you feel like you dont have to take your foot off the gas to shift!! You know the guy that replaced my clutch said it had nothing to do with launches it had to do with slamming the stick into place, and it pushed the fins out on the pressure plate and made it so the clutch could not engage.
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