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Old 05-05-2015, 04:44 PM   #1
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Exclamation *** Phatbotti Tuned 2006 STi * TMIC WORLD RECORD 10.1@135 *EFR7163,GS TMIC,Cobb AP***

Event: E-Tuning
Location: California
Ambient Temp: 80
Elevation: 0
Weather: Sunny
Car: 2006 STi
Tuner: Phatron of PhatBotti Tuning
Tuned With: Cobb AP V3- Speed Density
Dyno Info: VD
Transmission: 06 STi 6 Speed
Gear: 4th
Peak HP at RPM: 550
Peak Torque at RPM: 535
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: 235/235
Target Boost: 32 psi tapering to 28psi
Target AFR: 11.7
Fuel: E85

2006 WRB STi
-Cobb Accessport V3 Speed density
-Basic Piston/Rod shortblock
-Stock head setup
-MAP H11 Headstuds
-EFR7163 with 0.85 V-band EWG turbine housing
-Grimmspeed TMIC with AEM IAT sensor
-Tigwerks Full V-band rotated piping kit with EL header
-3" catless downpipe to 3" Borla XR-1 catback
-Short 3" intake pipe to 6" vibrant velocity stack with a big R2C Black hex filter
-45mm Turbosmart Hypergate: Spring combo 21psi
-ID1300's + Cosworth Fuel Rails
-Aeromotive A1000 6an FPR/ base pressure set at 55psi
-Walbro 460 E85 fuel pump hardwired
-Composite TGV's + Grimmspeed P&P Intake Manifold
-AEM 3.5 bar MAP sensor with Cobb adapter
-Hallman Pro RX/ heavy spring
-Fluidampr crank pulley
-NGK Copper stock heat range spark plugs
-Crankcase breather setup: 7/8" hose from the block baffle port and two 1/2" hoses from valve covers all VTA behind trans
-ACPT 1 Piece CF driveshaft
-Girodisc 2 piece rotors
-Ceramic wheel bearings
-Gauges: STRI boost, Oil pressure, EGT
-AEM UEGO Wideband
-Southbend Stage 3 Daily clutch (Replacing with a 6 puck very soon since my clutch is slipping now)
-OEM STi Flywheel

~*~*~*~*~EDIT: JUST WENT TO THE TRACK THIS PAST FRIDAY ON 8/21/15 AND TOOK THE OVERALL SUBARU TMIC WORLD RECORD~*~*~*~*~
Got 4 Passes in and ran 10.25, 10.19, 10.18, and 10.17. All 4 passes with 1.4x 60fts and 1.40 was my best. I will be shooting for 1.3x 60fts and 9.9s next time I go.

Heres a few videos...
10.18 run pits view

10.18 gopro view

10.17 run pits view

Crossing 500wtq by 3700 RPM is just insane for a turbo that makes 550AWHP on a EJ257 Keep in mind this a short gear 06 sti trans, 4th gear on 07+ STi would appear to spool much quicker




While I was building the motor last year in my garage (a few of those parts in this pic are different now of course)

And a few more pictures of the car and the building process










Want to thank Ron especially for spending countless hours with me to get this beast dialed in 100% remotely. He has tuned all my different setups over the last couple years and also a lot of my friends cars that I help setup locally with great results each and every time. I highly recommend him if you are looking to get a Etune. Also If you live in CA or nearby just go to his new shop and check out his dank dyno room in person for a protune.
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Old 05-05-2015, 04:46 PM   #2
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EDIT ***Here's the new time slips from 8/21/15***



Here's a timeslip and video from last year when it only made about 510whp with a couple different parts and less boost.





I went to the dragstrip a week ago to improve my time but my clutch couldn't handle the launch and the the new power gainz since the car is MUCH stronger now. I will be putting in a 6puck extremely soon and go back to the track within the next few weeks... should be interesting to see what kinda times we can squeeze out of it with a just a lil mid sized turbo and a TMIC

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Old 05-05-2015, 05:13 PM   #3
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She's moving that is for sure!

Now I am leaning towards this turbo over rotated again
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Old 05-05-2015, 06:46 PM   #4
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Torque curve/spool looks like a stage 2 except the numbers doubled. "Nasti" build and tune dude lol.
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Old 05-05-2015, 11:22 PM   #5
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Man I love this turbo, good work guys. I'm moving to alexandria here in 2 weeks. I'm sure I'll see you around.
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Old 05-05-2015, 11:53 PM   #6
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Very nice setup, and good driving.
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Old 05-06-2015, 08:27 AM   #7
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Good stuff. I wonder how the stock location vs rotated setup varies on this turbo. I have the stock location 7163 vband kit for my 2011 sti but it is only at 20psi because of the actuator that was maxed out :/
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Old 05-06-2015, 09:19 AM   #8
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I was trying to remember the car, but instead remembered the driver! You can drive man, makes it that much better your car is fast! Nice work! Good job on the tune Ron!
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Old 05-06-2015, 09:47 AM   #9
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That power band is freaking amazing!!!

Nice work Ron!!!
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Old 05-06-2015, 10:26 AM   #10
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Wow what a powerband! And a nice 10 sec pass at Richmond Dragway too. People laugh when I tell them I've ran my best times at that track when compared to VA Motorsports park I guess the ****ty track prep there just works well for AWD cars!
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Old 05-06-2015, 02:36 PM   #11
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Good stuff. I wonder how the stock location vs rotated setup varies on this turbo. I have the stock location 7163 vband kit for my 2011 sti but it is only at 20psi because of the actuator that was maxed out :/
Surprisingly enough, I haven't seen too much of a difference in power difference. We have a guy here in NOVA rocking a low mounted 7163 and he actually pushes nearly identical power on E85 with similar boost plots. He later opted for a twin scroll version to gain more spool and i think it reduced his overall top end by 15hp. He's an autocross junkie and needs as much power down low as possible
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Old 05-06-2015, 02:54 PM   #12
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She's moving that is for sure!

Now I am leaning towards this turbo over rotated again
What do you mean? I am using a rotated kit

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Good stuff. I wonder how the stock location vs rotated setup varies on this turbo. I have the stock location 7163 vband kit for my 2011 sti but it is only at 20psi because of the actuator that was maxed out :/
Exactly what I wanted to avoid, iv heard of people having nothing but issues holding real high boost on IWG EFRs even with high boost actuators. Plus EWG dumping will always be best, also the EFR will measure in under a foot long Another good thing about rotated is you really open up the intake track for smoother and cleaner airflow into the turbo inlet. You wouldnt believe the gains I got from my new smooth and short intake setup I just recently put together. Most people only think about making the exhaust side smooth and efficient and overlook the airflow thats rushing thru the turbo inlet @ over 200mph at this diameter and power level.

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I was trying to remember the car, but instead remembered the driver! You can drive man, makes it that much better your car is fast! Nice work! Good job on the tune Ron!
Thanks man I try Car wouldn't be like this without Rons help and support

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Wow what a powerband! And a nice 10 sec pass at Richmond Dragway too. People laugh when I tell them I've ran my best times at that track when compared to VA Motorsports park I guess the ****ty track prep there just works well for AWD cars!
lol, I heard the same thing from all my buddies they say ill run atleast .5 sec faster at VMP but iv been avoiding the drive and just go to richmond drag every time. However this year the track seemed even worst and downright scary TBH. Left lane is sloped off to the left and sucks you off the track (I couldnt even stay in it thru 3rd gear first pass last week) and the right lane has a big ass patch of rocky road and bumps between the 1000' and 1320', scared the **** out of me last week and car got unstable going across it at 130mph I had to lift before finish line but still trapped 132.4mph while clutch slipped slightly all the way down. Once I install the new clutch ill be going to VMP forsure this time

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Torque curve/spool looks like a stage 2 except the numbers doubled. "Nasti" build and tune dude lol.
Thanks that was my goal with the build. Lol iv had this plate for 4 years now and still love it just as much

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Man I love this turbo, good work guys. I'm moving to alexandria here in 2 weeks. I'm sure I'll see you around.
We have a massive subaru community here in the hampton roads area, not sure how close Alexandria is thoe
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Old 05-06-2015, 04:15 PM   #13
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I couldn't agree more!!!
Very similar set-up except no e85, just 94 & meth.

With my .8 A/R TS 7163, I just did a nice intake flow improvement and immediately noticed 1 point less vacuum at idle and quicker response at every rpm. Running a 2 port IWG and 4 port valve.




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Old 05-06-2015, 04:43 PM   #14
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Jealous of that powerband.

*checks bank account*
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Old 05-06-2015, 08:18 PM   #15
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Old 05-06-2015, 08:19 PM   #16
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puts my powerband to shame

I need that E85 doe
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Old 05-07-2015, 09:32 AM   #17
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This thing is moving! Crave power/torque curves.
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Old 05-07-2015, 11:46 AM   #18
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Just curious, what do you see for IAT's at the end of a run? I've got a 6758 and a similar TMIC and without a water sprayer I'm seeing 170's after a 2-3-4 pull at 27 psi.
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Old 05-07-2015, 02:59 PM   #19
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I couldn't agree more!!!
Very similar set-up except no e85, just 94 & meth.

With my .8 A/R TS 7163, I just did a nice intake flow improvement and immediately noticed 1 point less vacuum at idle and quicker response at every rpm. Running a 2 port IWG and 4 port valve.



Lots of crazy and cool stuff going on in that engine bay lol looks wild. Nice car man. What kinda power are you making on 94 and meth?

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puts my powerband to shame

I need that E85 doe
E85 is key. I haven't bought a single gallon of 93 in about a year now

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Just curious, what do you see for IAT's at the end of a run? I've got a 6758 and a similar TMIC and without a water sprayer I'm seeing 170's after a 2-3-4 pull at 27 psi.
IATs rise 19-20 degrees on 4th gear Vdyno pulls 2000-7000rpm. IATs rise about 39-40 degrees going thru all the gears (1-5) like at a dragstrip. What TMIC you running? Also I dont think the water sprayer really makes much difference lol I just press it before drag passes because its there and fun to press Mabey ill try and press it next time I do a 4th gear VD and see if I notice any difference
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IATs rise 19-20 degrees on 4th gear Vdyno pulls 2000-7000rpm. IATs rise about 39-40 degrees going thru all the gears (1-5) like at a dragstrip. What TMIC you running? Also I dont think the water sprayer really makes much difference lol I just press it before drag passes because its there and fun to press Mabey ill try and press it next time I do a 4th gear VD and see if I notice any difference
I'm using the ETS STi TMIC. I'll see about a 50-60 degree rise over a 2-4 pull without any water spraying. I autox the car so I've been fighting high IATs since the top speed is usually less than 70 mph but it's constantly high RPM. I use a water sprayer to cool the core off after a run and I can see in the logs where efficiency is better at the beginning of a run where it's still wet. I'd guess for the drag runs with the water you're feeding it a lot more air with the benefit of water spraying to keep it in line.

Thanks for the data point
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I have basically the same build plus some headwork but my 7163 did 422whp and 460ftlbs of torque at 24psi on E85. I am at 5000ft elevation and it was on a dyno dynamics instead of a dyno jet....Think the numbers are comparable or somethings up?

Did you notice any improvements in spool with a larger inlet pipe as apposed to just using a 2.5" diameter pipe...My inlet goes for about 1.5' of 2.5" pipe and I was thinking that could be somewhat of a restriction of airflow....I've seen more and more use a 3" or 3.5" diameter pipe and reducing it down at the compressor housing.
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:21 AM   #22
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I'm using the ETS STi TMIC. I'll see about a 50-60 degree rise over a 2-4 pull without any water spraying. I autox the car so I've been fighting high IATs since the top speed is usually less than 70 mph but it's constantly high RPM. I use a water sprayer to cool the core off after a run and I can see in the logs where efficiency is better at the beginning of a run where it's still wet. I'd guess for the drag runs with the water you're feeding it a lot more air with the benefit of water spraying to keep it in line.

Thanks for the data point
I used to have a ETS TMIC and IATs shot up way higher then the grimmspeed black coated tmic I use now (almost similar to your results). We almost thought it was just from IAT mounting error it was so extreme of a difference, but i remounted it on another spot and it was the same thing.

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I have basically the same build plus some headwork but my 7163 did 422whp and 460ftlbs of torque at 24psi on E85. I am at 5000ft elevation and it was on a dyno dynamics instead of a dyno jet....Think the numbers are comparable or somethings up?

Did you notice any improvements in spool with a larger inlet pipe as apposed to just using a 2.5" diameter pipe...My inlet goes for about 1.5' of 2.5" pipe and I was thinking that could be somewhat of a restriction of airflow....I've seen more and more use a 3" or 3.5" diameter pipe and reducing it down at the compressor housing.
You need to run more boost and you should see very nice gains all the way up to 30psi or so... 24psi is what vf39 e85 cars run lol

I think a 3" intake pipe works best on this turbo as its just a very minor smooth step down at the inlet and seems to work much better then the 3.5" pipe I used before
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Old 05-08-2015, 12:40 PM   #23
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nice work. what's your basic piston/rod setup? just wondering
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Old 05-08-2015, 01:31 PM   #24
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Picture looks like Cossie pistons and Manley h tuffs???
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:21 PM   #25
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