The ST-X has been named

bluesubie · 07-10-2001, 05:00 PM

It will be called the BRAT and will go on sale in October 2002.
A little birdie told me (actually, an SoA rep posted it on Edmunds

)
Dennis

Bunuel · 07-10-2001, 05:15 PM

Sweet! I want that car. Any word on when it hits production?

crash · 07-10-2001, 05:53 PM

do you have a link to where you read that on Edmunds?

Thanks,

Nate

omahasubaru · 07-10-2001, 05:54 PM

I also heard that instead of the concept S/C 2.5L it will just get the 3.0 H6 motor.

Jon

07-10-2001, 05:59 PM

Dam! I was hoping that they would use the B4 RSK twin turbo EJ20 in-jun

Cheers,
TIm

bluesubie · 07-10-2001, 06:18 PM

Nate,
It's Edmunds.com/Townhall/Owners Clubs/Subaru Crew/Future Models post #2404.
Shh, it's a secret.

Jon,
We'll find out for sure during the Detroit Auto Show in Jan 02.
Dennis

ANZAC_1915 · 07-10-2001, 09:28 PM

The ST-X is 100 times more Fugly than the WRX.

Seeing StaRS · 07-10-2001, 11:09 PM

Oh come on Subaru! Please come up with something better than that! No offense to owners of the old BRAT but, my God the name sucks. I mean think about it, Subaru's North American line- up will be the Forester, Impreza, Legacy and the....BRAT. Totally out of place. It just sounds harsh when you say it and makes me think of something annoying. ie: a bratty kid. I really liked the ST-X designation, it fit the cars image and fresh styling approach. Who knows maybe Subaru will do some test marketing and then decided to stick with the orginial name.

(BRAT owners put your guns down

)

Faraz · 07-10-2001, 11:13 PM

I thought this was old news ...a SOA rep told me they scrapped the S/C idea its just gonna have the EJ25 motor and be called the "Brat" at least a month ago.

bluesubie · 07-10-2001, 11:28 PM

StaRS - Someone one the Edmunds forum that was considering the ST-X said they won't get it if it's called the BRAT. Silly reason if you ask me. Subaru is function over form (or name).

Yeah, yeah Faraz. You know everything.

Actually, it kinda is old news. There were magazine reports saying it would be called the New Brat. What I'm posting though is someone that's going on record saying that's the name (although no "official" SOA announcment).
What about the rep you spoke to? Have they posted in print about the N/A 2.5?
The guy that owns my dealership "feels" they'll just stick that engine in it to keep costs down. Others have heard it'll get the H6 at least as an option. It's gotta have more than 165 hp to compete with the Sport compact p/u's (the JDM VVT engine maybe?).

This is like the STi posts. At least we know we'll have some sort of ST-X though.

Dennis

RallyGuy2k · 07-11-2001, 12:07 AM

Told ya...

ANZAC_1915 · 07-11-2001, 01:00 AM

In Australia, the original Brat was called the Subaru Brumby (which is a wild horse).

Glenn

MGXsport · 07-11-2001, 02:44 AM

So it's going to be like the old beetle and the new beetle?

The name is sort of funny but oh well it's a great car.

Chris

LUME · 07-11-2001, 08:55 AM

impreza, forester, legacy.... BRAT...

Hmm, you're saying it doesn't fit? Try this one:

car, car, car, TRUCK

Come on now, there is a reason for it's name being totally different than the rest of the cars. BECAUSE ITS DIFFERENT!!!

--RD

yakker · 07-11-2001, 09:13 AM

Different? It's another Outback with a short box.
I personally think it would be great if Subaru brought back the Brat. My first car was an 82 Brat. Man that was a fun vehicle. But this ST-XBRAT thing is not that. It's a station wagon with the rear roof cut off.

What kind of market are they going after with this thing? Take an Outback (which are overpriced in the US market IMO) bolt another $5000 worth of "ooh-ahh's" on it. That puts the sticker at what $35,000? Good luck.

I'm guessing to bring it in anywhere near the Outback in price, they'll have to use every last piece that goes into the Outback, except the roof of course.

bluesubie · 07-11-2001, 09:51 AM

Hey, I like the name Brumby. SoA reps should post here for name ideas. They could have a name the ST-X contest.

yakker, the old BRAT was also a car with the back cut off. No way it'll cost $35,000. It has to be mid-20's base to sell well. People were also saying $30,000+ for the WRX. IMO, they'll price it below the Beaner.

Maybe the name BRAT also means the production version will definately get the Bi-Range.

Dennis

Mike Smith · 07-11-2001, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by yakker
Different? It's another Outback with a short box.
I personally think it would be great if Subaru brought back the Brat. My first car was an 82 Brat. Man that was a fun vehicle. But this ST-XBRAT thing is not that. It's a station wagon with the rear roof cut off.

I think that's really what the original BRAT was, too. I had two of 'em - a gen1 and a gen2.

The BRAT is back!

ba_feitl · 07-11-2001, 12:44 PM

Production per SOA ...

Quote:

Sept. 7, 2000 - CHERRY HILL, NJ - Subaru of America, Inc. (SOA) today announced plans to build a new crossover vehicle based on the ST-X concept unveiled at the Greater Los Angeles Auto Show earlier this year. The new vehicle will be produced at Subaru-Isuzu Automotive, Inc. (SIA®) in Lafayette, Ind. beginning in the third quarter of 2002 with annual production scheduled for 24,000 units.

Brad

Matt · 07-11-2001, 01:25 PM

If this hits the old school board, there's going to be trouble.

Proud owner of a bi-drive recreational activity transporter.

And no..don't spoil a good name. Why can't it be Legacy something? Oh yeah...the SUS didn't really sell until they called it the Outback Sedan.

07-10-2001, 05:00 PM	#1
bluesubie Scooby Specialist Member#: 767 Join Date: Jan 2000 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: N.J. Vehicle: 04 FXT	The ST-X has been named It will be called the BRAT and will go on sale in October 2002. A little birdie told me (actually, an SoA rep posted it on Edmunds ) Dennis

07-10-2001, 06:18 PM	#6
bluesubie Scooby Specialist Member#: 767 Join Date: Jan 2000 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: N.J. Vehicle: 04 FXT	Nate, It's Edmunds.com/Townhall/Owners Clubs/Subaru Crew/Future Models post #2404. Shh, it's a secret. Jon, We'll find out for sure during the Detroit Auto Show in Jan 02. Dennis Last edited by bluesubie; 07-12-2001 at 04:13 PM.

07-10-2001, 11:09 PM	#8
Seeing StaRS Scooby Specialist Member#: 5294 Join Date: Mar 2001 Vehicle: MAIC killing my Subi spirit one day at a time	Say no to BRAT Yes ST-X Oh come on Subaru! Please come up with something better than that! No offense to owners of the old BRAT but, my God the name sucks. I mean think about it, Subaru's North American line- up will be the Forester, Impreza, Legacy and the....BRAT. Totally out of place. It just sounds harsh when you say it and makes me think of something annoying. ie: a bratty kid. I really liked the ST-X designation, it fit the cars image and fresh styling approach. Who knows maybe Subaru will do some test marketing and then decided to stick with the orginial name. (BRAT owners put your guns down )

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07-10-2001, 05:15 PM	#2
Bunuel Scooby Specialist Member#: 346 Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Maryland	Sweet! I want that car. Any word on when it hits production?

07-10-2001, 05:53 PM	#3
crash Scooby Specialist Member#: 1440 Join Date: May 2000 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Keeps Bumpers Fresher, Longer! Vehicle: 05 LGT Wgn; 04 FXT BDSM -- Birmingham, AL	do you have a link to where you read that on Edmunds? Thanks, Nate

07-10-2001, 05:54 PM	#4
omahasubaru Scooby Guru Member#: 1594 Join Date: Jun 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Gretna, NE	I also heard that instead of the concept S/C 2.5L it will just get the 3.0 H6 motor. Jon

07-10-2001, 05:59 PM	#5
Legacy STi L Guest Member#:	Dam! I was hoping that they would use the B4 RSK twin turbo EJ20 in-jun Cheers, TIm

07-10-2001, 09:28 PM	#7
ANZAC_1915 Moderator Member#: 456 Join Date: Oct 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Redmond, WA, USA Vehicle: 2008 Forester XT Steel Gray Metallic	The ST-X is 100 times more Fugly than the WRX.

07-10-2001, 11:13 PM	#9
Faraz What?... Do they speak English in What? Moderator Member#: 1459 Join Date: May 2000 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Allentown Vehicle: 2008 WRX 5door MT WR Blue	I thought this was old news ...a SOA rep told me they scrapped the S/C idea its just gonna have the EJ25 motor and be called the "Brat" at least a month ago.

07-10-2001, 11:28 PM	#10
bluesubie Scooby Specialist Member#: 767 Join Date: Jan 2000 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: N.J. Vehicle: 04 FXT	StaRS - Someone one the Edmunds forum that was considering the ST-X said they won't get it if it's called the BRAT. Silly reason if you ask me. Subaru is function over form (or name). Yeah, yeah Faraz. You know everything. Actually, it kinda is old news. There were magazine reports saying it would be called the New Brat. What I'm posting though is someone that's going on record saying that's the name (although no "official" SOA announcment). What about the rep you spoke to? Have they posted in print about the N/A 2.5? The guy that owns my dealership "feels" they'll just stick that engine in it to keep costs down. Others have heard it'll get the H6 at least as an option. It's gotta have more than 165 hp to compete with the Sport compact p/u's (the JDM VVT engine maybe?). This is like the STi posts. At least we know we'll have some sort of ST-X though. Dennis

07-11-2001, 12:07 AM	#11
RallyGuy2k Scooby Specialist Member#: 1146 Join Date: Mar 2000 Chapter/Region: International Location: Houston/LA/NYC Vehicle: 2000 GC8 2.5RS FTMFW 2003 Forester	Told ya...

07-11-2001, 01:00 AM	#12
ANZAC_1915 Moderator Member#: 456 Join Date: Oct 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Redmond, WA, USA Vehicle: 2008 Forester XT Steel Gray Metallic	In Australia, the original Brat was called the Subaru Brumby (which is a wild horse). Glenn

07-11-2001, 02:44 AM	#13
MGXsport Scooby Specialist Member#: 4048 Join Date: Feb 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Flying a R182RG in Moses Lake Vehicle: '06 Scion tC Flinty '99 Escalade Poo color	So it's going to be like the old beetle and the new beetle? The name is sort of funny but oh well it's a great car. Chris

07-11-2001, 08:55 AM	#14
LUME Banned Member#: 2641 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Bethlehem, PA Vehicle: 2000 Impreza 2.5 RS Dirt and Bird Poop	impreza, forester, legacy.... BRAT... Hmm, you're saying it doesn't fit? Try this one: car, car, car, TRUCK Come on now, there is a reason for it's name being totally different than the rest of the cars. BECAUSE ITS DIFFERENT!!! --RD

07-11-2001, 09:13 AM	#15
yakker Scooby Newbie Member#: 1330 Join Date: Apr 2000	Different? It's another Outback with a short box. I personally think it would be great if Subaru brought back the Brat. My first car was an 82 Brat. Man that was a fun vehicle. But this ST-XBRAT thing is not that. It's a station wagon with the rear roof cut off. What kind of market are they going after with this thing? Take an Outback (which are overpriced in the US market IMO) bolt another $5000 worth of "ooh-ahh's" on it. That puts the sticker at what $35,000? Good luck. I'm guessing to bring it in anywhere near the Outback in price, they'll have to use every last piece that goes into the Outback, except the roof of course.

07-11-2001, 09:51 AM	#16
bluesubie Scooby Specialist Member#: 767 Join Date: Jan 2000 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: N.J. Vehicle: 04 FXT	Hey, I like the name Brumby. SoA reps should post here for name ideas. They could have a name the ST-X contest. yakker, the old BRAT was also a car with the back cut off. No way it'll cost $35,000. It has to be mid-20's base to sell well. People were also saying $30,000+ for the WRX. IMO, they'll price it below the Beaner. Maybe the name BRAT also means the production version will definately get the Bi-Range. Dennis

07-11-2001, 01:25 PM	#19
Matt Allergic to turbos Moderator Member#: 181 Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: MAIC & Southeast Vehicle: Two Subarus and a truck	If this hits the old school board, there's going to be trouble. Proud owner of a bi-drive recreational activity transporter. And no..don't spoil a good name. Why can't it be Legacy something? Oh yeah...the SUS didn't really sell until they called it the Outback Sedan.