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Old 01-18-2005, 10:18 AM   #1
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so i changed the oil in my 04 wrx wagon for the first time this weekend, and it was extreamly messy I think there is about a quart on the driveway still. Call me a newb if u like (cuz i am), but i've changed the oil on plenty of cars before and i found a few unexpected things this time.

First of all, as soon as u get the filter almost off oil starts comming out everywhere. In ever other car i've changed the oil in, as long as u keep the filter rightside up, you can take it off without any oil leaking out, but this time a whole lot of it started leaking out before the thing was even completely unscrewed.

This was complicated by the plastic covering that is under the oil pan and surrounding area, because there was no way to catch the oil, it just went everywhere all over the top of the protective piece. It starts leaking out of about 4 different holes, and because the filter got so slippery it i dropped it and it started rolling around on top of there spilling oil to. I thought about removing said protective covering, but in addition to at least 6 bolts there were these plastic rivet type thingies that did not look easy to get out without breaking something.

Anyone come up with some good ways of dealing with these problems. Am i doing something obviousy stupid? The way i see it there is no way to keep it from spewing oil everywhere when u take the filter off, which kind of seems like a stupid design. i did move the car from the street into the driveway before i started. Is it supposed to sit for like half a day to let the oil settle before u change it? It did sit for a good 45 minutes after that before i changed the filter. Any advice nasioc?



c/n messy oil change, appears no way to keep lots of oil from spilling when removing filter, oil pan protector piece gets drenched then drains it out 3 different holes, therefore, this oil is almost impossable to collect. suggestions?
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Old 01-18-2005, 10:29 AM   #2
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Ok first off, your normally REMOVE the protective plastic piece. Its 4 screws and 4 or 5 push pins. Takes about 2-5 minutes.

Next you drain the oil before removing the filter. After the oil is thoroughly drained you then take off the filter. Also make sure you aren't on an incline. Level is GOOOOD.
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Old 01-18-2005, 10:30 AM   #3
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Should be able to take off the plastic covering fairly easily if it's in the way. It's not a problem on my 02, but IIRC they cover more area on 04s and up.

I use a punch to poke a hole in my filter to drain the oil before removing it. And check out www.fumotovalve.com -- you'll never have to worry about removing your drain bolt.
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Old 01-18-2005, 10:36 AM   #4
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ok, next time i will try removing the cover, and i did fully drain the oil before i took the filter off, there was just a slow drip.... drop.... drip.... drop.... when i put the bolt back in.



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p.s. car was pretty much perfectly level.
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Old 01-18-2005, 10:45 AM   #5
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lol, nothing ever goes the way you intend when doing ANYTHING on cars...

Ok, first off, get one of these: www.fumotovalve.com That tends to make things less messy, or at least did in my experience...

Ok I don't remove the plastic piece, this is how I got around the problem:

1)I put the front up on ramps so the car is at a slight angle.
2)Open the oil filler cap.
3)Open my drain valve and let the oil drain.
4)Go prepare the new filter and read new posts on NASIOC or something.
5)Come back and slowly unscrew the oil filter until it starts dripping. Because the car is at an angle the drips run to the back of the filter, which on my WRX wagon, clears the black plastic part and falls into my drip pan. An alternative to this step is to take a punch and punch a hole in the back of the filter and let it drain.
6)Remove the filter completely (after wiping it down with a rag so it's not slippery!).
7)After everything stops dripping with any frequency, new filter, close valve, fill 'er up...

If this doesn't work for you just remove the plastic piece (not very hard) but I like to avoid unnecessary steps... I have a 2002 WRX Wagon, I don't know if they expanded that plastic piece or not but the above method works perfectly for me.

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Edit: P.S. A level surface is indeed best but I change my oil every 3k religiously so it doesn't bother me that much if there is a tad of oil left in the pan...
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Old 01-18-2005, 11:39 AM   #6
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Hmm...going to try the 'punch and drain filter' method next time.

One of the things that I liked about my Passat is that the oil filter is accessible from the top. Together with an oil pump, oil changes are a snap.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:37 PM   #7
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If it was'nt for that under carriage cover the oil changes on subies are probably the easiest i've ever done. Get that out of the way and you're in business. And don't put it back on till you've refilled and do a leak test.
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Old 01-18-2005, 02:28 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by KmanRuffian
lol, nothing ever goes the way you intend when doing ANYTHING on cars...

Ok, first off, get one of these: www.fumotovalve.com That tends to make things less messy, or at least did in my experience...

Ok I don't remove the plastic piece, this is how I got around the problem:

1)I put the front up on ramps so the car is at a slight angle.
2)Open the oil filler cap.
3)Open my drain valve and let the oil drain.
4)Go prepare the new filter and read new posts on NASIOC or something.
5)Come back and slowly unscrew the oil filter until it starts dripping. Because the car is at an angle the drips run to the back of the filter, which on my WRX wagon, clears the black plastic part and falls into my drip pan. An alternative to this step is to take a punch and punch a hole in the back of the filter and let it drain.
6)Remove the filter completely (after wiping it down with a rag so it's not slippery!).
7)After everything stops dripping with any frequency, new filter, close valve, fill 'er up...

If this doesn't work for you just remove the plastic piece (not very hard) but I like to avoid unnecessary steps... I have a 2002 WRX Wagon, I don't know if they expanded that plastic piece or not but the above method works perfectly for me.

-D

Edit: P.S. A level surface is indeed best but I change my oil every 3k religiously so it doesn't bother me that much if there is a tad of oil left in the pan...
I do this exactly as described and it works on a 2003 sedan. I repeat step 5 a number of times, slowly unscrewing the filter a little more each time.
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Old 01-18-2005, 03:27 PM   #9
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You could also modify (cut) the plastic sheild so your filter is exposed. I also use a large diameter collection pan and a large aluminium tray to catch splashes.

Also beware oil on your exhaust or other hot parts due to the leak/spill. You may see some smoke.
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