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Old 01-19-2005, 01:58 PM   #1
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Wow, the STi's really suck in the snow, and it's only a couple of inches. I'm from Cape Cod, I wouldn't even characterize this as snow! My 02 WRX with stock tires and rims was actually better than my STi. I put the DCCD in 50/50 lock, which helped the acceleration. It was the braking that was downright scary.

Must be the tires?
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:00 PM   #2
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From what I gather, you need to take the summer radials off and put on winter tires for it.

Hey, you're local, sweet, we're finally getting our first snow of the season, yee haaa!
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:03 PM   #3
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OMG, not this again! It's even in the owners manual that the car comes with summer tires. You can't honestly look at those stock tires and possibly think they're worth a damn in the snow. If you do, you're sorely mistaken. This car most definitely doesn't suck in the snow, it's the best car I've ever driven in the snow that lacked traction control, period. I grew up in Alaska FWIW.

This has gotta be a joke right?
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:05 PM   #4
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i think i'm gonna hurl
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:06 PM   #5
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how can you tell the difference between summer and winter tires by just looking at the them? I mean like is the patter different or what?
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:06 PM   #6
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Wow, the STi's really suck in the snow, and it's only a couple of inches. I'm from Cape Cod, I wouldn't even characterize this as snow! My 02 WRX with stock tires and rims was actually better than my STi. I put the DCCD in 50/50 lock, which helped the acceleration. It was the braking that was downright scary.

Must be the tires?
must be tires; what tires you have on your STi? My impression is opposite - STi is much better in the snow than my 02 WRX wagon - STi is much more stable and its understeer is minimal. With wrx in the snow I had pretty bad understeer and after adding mods (rear sway, springs, endlinks, braces) the understeer turned into a snap oversteer.
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:06 PM   #7
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OMG, not this again! It's even in the owners manual that the car comes with summer tires. You can't honestly look at those stock tires and possibly think they're worth a damn in the snow. If you do, you're sorely mistaken. This car most definitely doesn't suck in the snow, it's the best car I've ever driven in the snow that lacked traction control, period. I grew up in Alaska FWIW.
I thought it was the same guy again, but couldn't find the 'floored it' part .
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:07 PM   #8
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how can you tell the difference between summer and winter tires by just looking at the them? I mean like is the patter different or what?
Yes, very different. And allseason./snow tires usually say 'allseason' on them.
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:07 PM   #9
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how can you tell the difference between summer and winter tires by just looking at the them? I mean like is the patter different or what?

You're kidding right? Go to tirerack.com right now and look at the tread patterns on different season tires.
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:08 PM   #10
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how can you tell the difference between summer and winter tires by just looking at the them? I mean like is the patter different or what?
the pattern is different, but also the composition of the tire. Summer tires don't work in snow- they turn into solid plastic feeling stuff that does not grip.
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how can you tell the difference between summer and winter tires by just looking at the them? I mean like is the patter different or what?
i think howstuffworks.com has a good explanation about tires, ratings, and tread ... worth checking out if you don't know a whole lot about tires
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:10 PM   #12
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i think howstuffworks.com has a good explanation about tires, ratings, and tread ... worth checking out if you don't know a whole lot about tires

That site rocks!
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:20 PM   #13
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Yeah it's definitely the tires, because I still own my 02 WRX (haven't sold it yet). I took the WRX out on the same road as the STi, with the stock WRX tires (Potenza's I think?), and I had no problems.

Guess I'll have to start looking for some winter tires for my spare set of rims...

Would you use OZ Racing Superleggera's or the BBS's as your winter rims (both silver)? Just an opinion question.
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:24 PM   #14
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Would you use OZ Racing Superleggera's or the BBS's as your winter rims (both silver)? Just an opinion question.
Either one. They are wear items.
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:28 PM   #15
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The STi is ok in the snow with the RE070's if you know how to drive in the stuff. It rocks out with it's c0ck out in the snow with all season tires.

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Old 01-19-2005, 02:28 PM   #16
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i thought people with sti's know what they are buying since its such an enthusiast car. and i thought they know better that summer tires are not made for winter condition driving.
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:29 PM   #17
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The STI is excellent in the snow with dedicated snow tires as is the rest of the Impreza models. Now I am not sure what tire is stock for the 05 STI but the 04 STI stock tires would be down right suicidal in the snow.
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:31 PM   #18
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W-O-W.


Summer tires also have more tread blocks then groves, whereas winter tires have more sipes to allow them to grip snow/ice.

I drove home in an almost white-out this afternoon on my Blizzak LM22s. No problems what-so-ever.

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Old 01-19-2005, 02:37 PM   #19
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Either one. They are wear items.
Rims are wear items?

Get some winter tread on there quick, or you'll be sliding through an intersection even quicker.
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Old 01-19-2005, 02:55 PM   #20
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lmao i live in northern minesota, and the drive over to get my winter tires on was horrendous. Youre an idiiot if you drive in the snow with your potenzas. Oh well.
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Rims are wear items?

They certainly don't last forever, ask any race driver, they have a servicable life span, hence "wear item".
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They certainly don't last forever, ask any race driver, they have a servicable life span, hence "wear item".
Yeah, so does any piece of crafted metal, but the average person doesn't consider their hood a wear item.

The BBS rims should last the life of the car.
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That doesn't change the fact that they are expendable wear items. We've gone over this before.
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That doesn't change the fact that they are expendable wear items. We've gone over this before.
Do you consider things like a catalytic converter and steering wheel a wear item too? How about a transmission?
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Does it matter what I think? It won't change the fact that tires and wheels are wear items.
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