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Old 01-24-2005, 10:37 PM   #1
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Default Found good deal on engine/trans from 02 wrx

Supposedly it comes with motor, trans, ecu and harness, xmember and all bolt on parts to make a clean swap. Now, is there any diff in the mount location of the rs trans and wrx trans? meaning, will i need to buy anything extra for that? Or is the tranny straight bolt in? Also, such a n00b question, but will the gauges from a wrx fit into the area of the RS gauges or is it completely different? I havent been inside a wrx enough to know.

It has 31k on it, and im getting it for 3400, which I think is a pretty good deal.
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:01 PM   #2
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i would say that is 1000 too much espically with that many miles
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:07 PM   #3
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I dont know.. I've seen other prices be around 4k.. this has a warranty on it
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:28 PM   #4
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I would snatch that up so fast if I didn't already have my swap done. I wouldn't put in the WRX transmission. I would use the RS one and keep the WRX one around until you see a "I blew my WRX's transmission last night while drag racing" thread. The RS' gearing is so much fun and even better with a nice light flywheel.

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Old 01-24-2005, 11:34 PM   #5
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the warranty is nice...

I don't know what you're swapping the thing into, but if it's an impreza, chances the tranny, assuming it's manual, has better gear ratios than the WRX tranny, and it can stand the power.
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:35 PM   #6
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Too many miles? Why? Depends on how well the tranny/engine has been treated
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Old 01-25-2005, 02:27 AM   #7
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Subaru powertrains run for a very long time *at stock power levels*
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Old 01-25-2005, 02:48 AM   #8
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seems like a good price to me.

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Old 01-25-2005, 07:30 AM   #9
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You could buy an entire wreck for that price or less at auction.

Nasioc is the worst place to shop for swap parts, to much demand.
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Old 01-25-2005, 11:18 AM   #10
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You could buy an entire wreck for that price or less at auction.

Nasioc is the worst place to shop for swap parts, to much demand.
w3rd.

WITS, keep your RS tranny. It's no weaker, and the gearing is much more agressive.
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Old 01-25-2005, 11:40 AM   #11
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i would say that is 1000 too much espically with that many miles
From tracking this kind of item on ebay, NASIOC and other classifieds, as well as requesting pricing from sources such as Rallitek, garage tuning, PHATsuby, etc.

$3400 seems well within line at this mileage.

As someone said you can find entire wrecked vehicles at auction for 4k and up, but this is not factoring the cost of removal of all the parts from the donor vehicle(in your time or $ for paying someone else), not to mention what you are going to do with the left over parts that are junk. Sure you can make some $ parting the rest out piece by piece, IF you have the time, energy, and storage to do this.

For many of us, it is worth paying the same price or even more to have it already removed and shipped ready to drop in for a swap and with a warranty

For the guy that thinks it is $1000 too much, please let the rest of us know where to find something like this for $2400.
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Old 01-25-2005, 12:34 PM   #12
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Well here is why I will be getting the tranny too...

Mine has something internally that has been "ticking" for about 7 months, lol.. No one can figure out what it is, and I wasnt about to take it apart to find out.. because it'd be replaced one day anyways. I just have a sneaky feeling that as soon as I replaced the motor, thinking "yay", my tranny would suddenly stop working, haha. Basically it's the loudest sounding right at the shifter boot. All that coupled with the fact that my trans has a history of the 5th gear synch going bye bye twice within 20k miles, because the stake nut kept backing off... means I dont trust my transmission.

Like I asked before, "Now, is there any diff in the mount location of the rs trans and wrx trans? meaning, will i need to buy anything extra for that?" and "Also, such a n00b question, but will the gauges from a wrx fit into the area of the RS gauges or is it completely different? I havent been inside a wrx enough to know."
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Old 01-25-2005, 01:38 PM   #13
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WRX gauge pod is different. Transmissions are the same mounting point.

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Old 01-25-2005, 02:12 PM   #14
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I think you will need a different rear diff as well with the trans. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the diff ratio's are different between the RS rear and the WRX rear. Check Unabomber's FAQ on this to be sure.

As far as price- if it was stock that's not bad. Getting a whole wreck may be cheaper but more risky and lots more work, even just to get all the wiring harnesses out.
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Old 01-25-2005, 02:35 PM   #15
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The diff is different so you will need to use that too. Axles are OK though.

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Old 01-25-2005, 04:39 PM   #16
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$4000 and up for a wreck would be the price you'd pay on here or maybe ebay.

I got my wreck for $1800, a guy I know got one for about $650. Mine was second party purchase too, the first guy who had it paid $800 IIRC.
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Old 01-25-2005, 04:58 PM   #17
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how much do rear diffs run?
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Old 01-25-2005, 05:21 PM   #18
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i have seen them for around 300 about.

as fas as the axles being the same Zephyr prob would know better than me, but I was fairly sure they are different, I at least know they were different than mine, i had a wrx kaaz rear diff and my axles did not work with it, the spline is fine, it was the position of the c-clip groove. I was fairly sure my rear lsd is the same as the RS(that is if you have the stock lsd) otherwise what i just said has no bearing

just a few thoughts.

watcher are you getting the entire car harness for that price as well?

thanks
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Old 01-25-2005, 05:31 PM   #19
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I am getting xmember, engine, trans, ecu and harness and all bolt ons. Im trying to get ahold of them to see if they can include the rear diff lol...
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Old 01-25-2005, 05:48 PM   #20
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but is it the entire car harness or just the bulkhead harness?

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Old 01-25-2005, 06:02 PM   #21
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For the guy that thinks it is $1000 too much, please let the rest of us know where to find something like this for $2400.
i don't have a source .. but as mentioned full wrecks (read: don't have to buy all the parts that are missing) can be had for far less

at 3400 you are paying a 100% mark up from the auction

hell you can buy a v.7 engine for 4k

i also wouldn't use the GDA crossmember buy a legacy turbo one instead

either way 3400 is not a good deal for and engine with 30some k miles on it
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Old 01-25-2005, 06:04 PM   #22
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but is it the entire car harness or just the bulkhead harness?

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That is a very important question. The ideal situation is to get the entire harness out of the WRX. The rear section, B pillar back, is not really needed but it does help if you are planning on running a fuel pump controler as it's a PITA to make up the section that plugs into the FPC. The key sections of harness are Bulkhead and Front harnesses. The engine harness is obviously included because it is attached to the engine but the front and bulkhead are the most important parts.

I can't stress this enough.

I have been able to create a working harness using just the WRX Bulkhead harness. It was a PITA and I do not recommend trying to do it. However if anyone has run into this issue I'll be more than happy to sort out the harness for you and create a working harness for you.

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Old 01-25-2005, 06:21 PM   #23
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Zephyr, how did you make a harness just out of the bulkhead? Just adding a lot of wires? If the rear harness isnt too critical what are the other critical parts besides the bulkhead?

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Old 01-25-2005, 06:59 PM   #24
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Bulkhead…
Engine Wiring Cord…
Transmission Cord…
Front Wiring Harness…
Rear Harness (at least up to the fuel tank cord)…
Fuel Tank Cord…



As Zephyr pointed out, the front wiring harness is critical next to the bulkhead and engine harnesses. The front harness can be disconnected from the bulkhead harness at the SMJ and *may not* be included in your “full harness”, so one must confirm that it comes with it. Otherwise you’ll be missing a bunch of components including engine harness hook up’s, Alternator and AC plugs, and power options for your conversion.

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Old 01-25-2005, 07:27 PM   #25
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i don't have a source .. but as mentioned full wrecks (read: don't have to buy all the parts that are missing) can be had for far less

at 3400 you are paying a 100% mark up from the auction

hell you can buy a v.7 engine for 4k

i also wouldn't use the GDA crossmember buy a legacy turbo one instead

either way 3400 is not a good deal for and engine with 30some k miles on it
it's not just the engine. It's the transmission, Xmember, Ecu and harness and all bolt ons.. i still need to call tomorrow and see if I can get the rear diff.. since I hear now that it is needed when I have already ordered...
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