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Old 01-26-2005, 11:00 AM   #1
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simple questions really, can the hydra pass state emissions tests? I live in Ga. I know they hook up the odb and try to read codes. Will the hydra pass this kind of test and be blind to the diagnostics?

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Old 01-26-2005, 11:13 AM   #2
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No, sorry to tell you this but the OBDII doesn't work through Hydra.

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Old 01-26-2005, 11:15 AM   #3
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Oh and I live in a part of Ohio where there is still emissions testing. If I really want to get out of it I can just get a letter from Subura stating that the production total on my car was a specific amount and present the letter to the DMV for Collector plates. At least in Ohio that works to avoid emmissions testing. Of course it is a little more detailed than that, but you get the idea.

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Old 01-26-2005, 12:26 PM   #4
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/not to hijack...
I was wondering a similar thing. Are there hacks for utec, ecutek or any others? Since these ecu's have been supposedly totally reverse engineered, was wondering if someone could implant code that would cause an auto pass within the obdii checking system... If not, what is this about limited vehicles qualifying for exemption? I have an 02, and will be tested soon, and wondering what my options are... Even if stock dp is replaced, that would seriously not go well with a tuned engine exepcting an aftermarket dp.
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:19 PM   #5
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I was wondering a similar thing. Are there hacks for utec, ecutek or any others? Since these ecu's have been supposedly totally reverse engineered, was wondering if someone could implant code that would cause an auto pass within the obdii checking system... If not, what is this about limited vehicles qualifying for exemption? I have an 02, and will be tested soon, and wondering what my options are... Even if stock dp is replaced, that would seriously not go well with a tuned engine exepcting an aftermarket dp.
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No hacks that I am aware of; mostly because it is probably against some federal laws to try and trick any of those places. As to limited vehicles, it is mostly all state based. You didn't mention your location so I can't help; but I can say if you are in Cali or Oregon you are just screwed anyway.

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Old 01-26-2005, 08:02 PM   #6
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I see what you are saying, but isn't against federal law to be removing working cats anyway? or is that state law? anyhoo... I'm in Arizona. Any info welcome
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Old 01-26-2005, 08:32 PM   #7
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It's against federal laws to remove a functioning cat from any road vehicle. The way the after market gets around this and sells you a catless exhaust is to label their product "off road use only". Now it’s on the buyer to break the law by choosing to install the product on a road car and use said car on the road. There’s no reasonable way for the aftermarket to say that there’s valid reason for an “off road use only” product to have a mechanism in their product whose sole purpose is to fool a smog testing facility into thinking that there’s a valid ECU in the car when in fact there is not. If they provided such a mechanism it would be as if they’re providing the facility to break the law. It would then not only be the end user that is breaking the law then. The authorities would probably come down even harder on them than the consumer. Not really a smart or viable business plan.
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:47 PM   #8
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Understandable... So, lets say you get an ECUtek reflash... when you go for emissions, you are supposed to put catted dp back on, flash back to stock, then test, then replace catless dp, then reflash? I see alot of people with reflashes, but I wondering how they get around emissions. If anyone could provide additional information regarding that, or get a vehicle to somehow be exempt in the state of AZ, please let me know!
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I don't think there is a problem with the reflash prior to 05. Just as long as there is no CEL, all the long term parameters are tested, and the tune does not cause you to fail the sniffer the ODBII should work just as before. That is provided that there is not a visual inspection to go along with the sniffer. No smog station is going to or would even know what to look for in a reflashed ECU. If you have a visual you will have to reflash back for the stock equipment unless your reflash will pass with the stock stuff. The crux is that you won’t know until you either pass or fail.

For the 05 and beyond you have to concern yourself with CVN, CIN and VIN in your ECU. It looks like that the law makers are going to give the smog checkers the capability to check for a reflashed ECU. Take a peek here: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=649636 . I’m not sure if Suby was able to get an exempt from that for 05.
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:07 AM   #10
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I asked awhile back if the utec would pass smog and seemed to get a yes from other members on the board. I assume I'd have to disconnect the abc and any other obvious parts. I hope this is the case since I don't want to swap the turbo out again.
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