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Old 01-28-2005, 03:10 AM   #1
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Default Vinyl Sticker?

Is vinyl sticker the type where it sticks onto the window itself or the one that is on the bcak of the window? So if you have this sticker on your windshield, nobody can peel it unless you are inside?

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Red vinyl window sticker. The white you see is the backing paper. The sticker is red only. It is made with premium 7 year vinyl. ( Also available in solid white. That looks good on tinted windows.) Thanks for looking !

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Old 01-28-2005, 03:12 AM   #2
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Vinyl is just the material.... it can be apply on the glass or back of the window. you decide where to apply.
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Old 01-28-2005, 03:14 AM   #3
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But if it applies to the front of the window, it can be peeled by anybody eh?
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Old 01-28-2005, 03:21 AM   #4
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Technically yes...
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Old 01-28-2005, 03:40 AM   #5
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Is there any way of making that stick? Would placing the sticker on top of the glass and applying heat through a heat gun make it stick so nobody can steal it?
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Old 01-28-2005, 03:48 AM   #6
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I think it's most likely a sticky sticker, not one of those staticy ones. Hence the "technically".
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Old 01-28-2005, 03:51 AM   #7
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Ok, even if someone trying to peel it off, the only reason is to destroy it. It can't be reuse any way. Technically, after applying the vinyl, heat gun is always used, but not to the point that will prevent the vinyl from someone peeling it off.
There is no way to protect anything that is stick to a car
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Old 01-28-2005, 03:55 AM   #8
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Oh, one more thing. you can always applied to the inside of the glass. That way no one can peel it. But the only catch is that the color will be distort and reflection will make the vinyl not as visible.
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Old 01-28-2005, 04:33 AM   #9
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is there a problem with people peeling stickers right now or something? i have had vinyl stickers all over my car for years with no problems to date.

and as for the heat gun, ive never used a heat gun to apply them, just make sure you are sticking it in normal temperatures and there should be no issue. on the other hand, i have used heat to remove them from glass, but not to put them on (that is what a credit card and patience are for )
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Old 01-28-2005, 04:46 AM   #10
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Heat gun (or hair dryer) is used after applying the vinyl. IF the vinyl is not heat treated, chances are that the vinly will peel after a short period of time or after it get wet. Heat gun (or hair dryer) is also used to remove vinyl too.
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Old 01-28-2005, 04:47 AM   #11
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Is there any way of making that stick? Would placing the sticker on top of the glass and applying heat through a heat gun make it stick so nobody can steal it?
some stickers with no sharp edges are hard to peel off
tinting films are hard to peel off
Metallic or reflective tinting film is hard to peel off
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Old 01-28-2005, 11:59 AM   #12
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Heat gun (or hair dryer) is used after applying the vinyl. IF the vinyl is not heat treated, chances are that the vinly will peel after a short period of time or after it get wet. Heat gun (or hair dryer) is also used to remove vinyl too.

really? thats crazy, ive never seen that done, and my grandpa ran a sign shop for 35 years, so ive seen a bit of vinyl applied in my days. maybe he is just a stubborn old man, and didnt feel like heating it up when applying it
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Old 01-28-2005, 12:31 PM   #13
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Is vinyl sticker the type where it sticks onto the window itself or the one that is on the bcak of the window? So if you have this sticker on your windshield, nobody can peel it unless you are inside?

Here is the description:

Red vinyl window sticker. The white you see is the backing paper. The sticker is red only. It is made with premium 7 year vinyl. ( Also available in solid white. That looks good on tinted windows.) Thanks for looking !

Thanks.
Hi Derek!

Any vinyl can be removed by hand alone -- but it is difficult if you can't get a good "edge" to pick-up as bwco mentioned. Some vinyl (eg. the 3M reflective stuff they use on STOP signs, your insurance decal, etc) will only "chip" and/or come off in pieces if you try to remove it without heat -- that and it's also very hard on your fingernails

As H5N1 said --> easiest way to remove it is via a heat-gun or a blowdryer - to:
1. Soften/loosen the adhesive
2. Soften the vinyl itself so that it is "stretchy" and easy to peel off in "one piece", rather than hundreds of tiny shards/scraps that you have to go at with a fingernail (remember this next time you have to remove your bazillion layers of insurance expiry decals)
Once removed -- the vinyl is usually deformed, the adhesive loses its stickiness, and the entire decal is then generally unusable.

A heat gun and/or hairdryer can also help tremendously when applying vinyl in that it helps the vinyl "conform" to curved surfaces. Even for flat surfaces, a hairdryer can help to evaporate the soapy water that is usually used when applying/placing a decal.

hope that answers your question!
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Old 01-28-2005, 12:42 PM   #14
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BTW -- Derek --
If you are looking to do a tintstrip/windshield decal with graphics on the INSIDE -- it can be done -- see this post here:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...tstrip+project


It's my tintstrip project -- a single vinyl line + low-sight-line tintstrip on the INSIDE --


then a shortened vinyl banner on the OUTSIDE.


This way -- you don't get a 100% opaque windshield banner (which blocks vision, and interferes with your windshield wipers unneccessarily) -- but you get most of the "bling" and sun-glare reducing benefits that such a huge banner would afford.
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