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Old 01-30-2005, 03:28 AM   #1
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Old 01-30-2005, 05:44 AM   #2
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Your link = teh suX0r.
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Old 01-30-2005, 01:29 PM   #3
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you mean this one
price is too high ..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
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Old 01-30-2005, 04:19 PM   #4
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5100 and reserve hasn't been met. Yep, that's a little steep.
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Old 01-30-2005, 04:31 PM   #5
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5100 and reserve hasn't been met. Yep, that's a little steep.

you can do a ej20g and tranny swap for under 5k and it would be easier and in my opinion better
Closed Deck = teh hottness
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Old 01-30-2005, 09:51 PM   #6
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uh you should be able to do a usdm swap+tranny+labor for 5k and be legal

and no a ej20g is not better
HLA =teh suck!
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Old 01-30-2005, 10:16 PM   #7
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ej20g=better
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Old 01-31-2005, 01:31 PM   #8
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um no
its phase 1
the heads suck
turbo upgrades are non existant
closed deck is nice but has less cooling and the rod and pistons are still cast
so no the ej20g is not better

the ej20G is initaly cheeper but not in the long run
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Old 01-31-2005, 01:56 PM   #9
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Old 01-31-2005, 03:48 PM   #10
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um no
its phase 1
the heads suck
turbo upgrades are non existant
closed deck is nice but has less cooling and the rod and pistons are still cast
so no the ej20g is not better

the ej20G is initaly cheeper but not in the long run
Dude,
You are totally smoking crack. The EJ20G heads flow substantially better than EJ205 heads. They are not even in the same ballpark. The HLA's are only an issue if you rev past 7500rpm, but who actually revs past there.
A deadbolt TDO5-16G will bolt right up with the 90 degree inlet. I know of a barely used one for $600. New they run $800 from Deadbolt.
If you want to use a straight inlet turbo, just swap over an '98 EJ25 intake manifold and you can use WRX plumbing and any of the turbos that bolt up.

And every EJ series rod Subaru ever made is forged. And every turbo piston is a moly coated cast piston with the exception of certain GC STi pistons. EJ20G's are not teh suck!!!

As for the car at hand, do you guys realize that is $6000 for a complete WRX? You could pull the motor and tranny for your swap, and sell off supsension, interior, good body panels, dash, etc. etc and recoop a grand or two. Or integrate as much of it as possible into the swap...
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Old 01-31-2005, 04:07 PM   #11
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And every EJ series rod Subaru ever made is forged.
Where did you find this info? As far as I knew, it was commonly thought that the EJ205 (USDM WRX) had cast rods.

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Old 02-01-2005, 12:18 AM   #12
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Old 02-01-2005, 03:21 AM   #13
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I thought it was common knowledge that all subaru rods as well as cranks are forged. I rate the WRX head down around the EJ22t head. Any JDM head is better then the WRX head. Its obvious that they used very small ports to keep intake velocity high and emissions low.
WRX head+ low emission= teh suck
Phase 1= teh suck
closed deck= teh suck(unless you are making 500whp+)

Oh and thats way too much money for that subaru. The front suspension is shot and it was on its roof.... possible running with no oil pressure for who knows how long.

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Old 02-01-2005, 11:16 AM   #14
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The EJ20G heads flow substantially better than EJ205 heads. They are not even in the same ballpark.
maybe on a sti ver 2 but not on the other versions of the G 200/220/240ps versions

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The HLA's are only an issue if you rev past 7500rpm, but who actually revs past there.
or if the car sits for more than about 10 days - i know

having one in my car for over a year i would rip it out in a sec if i had a good opportunity on a usdm ej205
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Old 02-01-2005, 01:42 PM   #15
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maybe on a sti ver 2 but not on the other versions of the G 200/220/240ps versions


or if the car sits for more than about 10 days - i know

having one in my car for over a year i would rip it out in a sec if i had a good opportunity on a usdm ej205
Dude,
Have you ever pulled off your intake manifold and measured? The manifold to head face is 1/8" larger than the EJ205 face. And if you measure the ports, each intake port is close to 1/4" larger than the EJ205 ones. And the timing on the cams is more agressive as well.

And if you are having trouble with your HLA's when the car sits, it is because they are blown and need to pump back up when you drive it. If you replace the faulty HLA's you would likely be very satisfied with the performance of that engine...
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Old 02-01-2005, 02:58 PM   #16
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Dude,As for the car at hand, do you guys realize that is $6000 for a complete WRX? You could pull the motor and tranny for your swap, and sell off supsension, interior, good body panels, dash, etc. etc and recoop a grand or two. Or integrate as much of it as possible into the swap...
The most I've personally seen a WRX go for at an insurance auction is about $4500, and that was a theft damaged car that was fairly easily repairable(stole parts, trashed the interior, no real body damage). I know of 2 that have sold at auction for under a grand. The one I got being one of them, I bought second party after the auction though, so had a pretty good markup to a whopping $1800.

I'm telling you guys, don't shop for swap parts on NASIOC or ebay unless you're desperate. Hell even if you live in a state where you can't buy wrecks at insurance auctions, you could probably just go straight to any junkyard with a WRX wreck and buy the whole thing off them for cheaper than that ebay wreck.

Just trying to get the word out that you guys don't have to expect to pay 6 grand for a wrecked WRX. It's insane how much people try to markup their parts on NASIOC.

And another option if you live in a state where you can't buy cars at insurance auction. First find a wreck you want going up for auction(this site has a searchable database http://www.iaai.com/) then go to a junk yard and offer them say, $500 to purchase it for you. That website kind of sucks now, you can't see any specifics on the cars unless you're a registered buyer($200, and a salvage license in certain states), but you can call the auction center where the wreck is located and get more specifics.

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Old 02-01-2005, 10:40 PM   #17
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I thought it was common knowledge that all subaru rods as well as cranks are forged. I rate the WRX head down around the EJ22t head. Any JDM head is better then the WRX head. Its obvious that they used very small ports to keep intake velocity high and emissions low.
WRX head+ low emission= teh suck
Phase 1= teh suck
closed deck= teh suck(unless you are making 500whp+)

Oh and thats way too much money for that subaru. The front suspension is shot and it was on its roof.... possible running with no oil pressure for who knows how long.
closed deck=the suck whatever
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Old 02-01-2005, 10:42 PM   #18
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Dude,
You are totally smoking crack. The EJ20G heads flow substantially better than EJ205 heads. They are not even in the same ballpark. The HLA's are only an issue if you rev past 7500rpm, but who actually revs past there.
A deadbolt TDO5-16G will bolt right up with the 90 degree inlet. I know of a barely used one for $600. New they run $800 from Deadbolt.
If you want to use a straight inlet turbo, just swap over an '98 EJ25 intake manifold and you can use WRX plumbing and any of the turbos that bolt up.

And every EJ series rod Subaru ever made is forged. And every turbo piston is a moly coated cast piston with the exception of certain GC STi pistons. EJ20G's are not teh suck!!!

As for the car at hand, do you guys realize that is $6000 for a complete WRX? You could pull the motor and tranny for your swap, and sell off supsension, interior, good body panels, dash, etc. etc and recoop a grand or two. Or integrate as much of it as possible into the swap...

Nicely said
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Old 02-01-2005, 10:48 PM   #19
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anyone ever been to an auto auction? I've been curious about them...is it worth paying the money to get licenced and stuff? for that couple hundred bucks, you could save alot more when buying a car...
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