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Old 02-03-2005, 01:18 AM   #1
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Default 02-03 foglights? slightly better aftermarket fogs?

Hey guys, I searched through 150 threads, and couldnt find exactly what I'm looking for. I found the big ol thread on aftermarket fog lights, but still didn't help. One of my OEM fogs just went out, so I'm thinking I may just get rid of em and upgrade. I want something that is slightly brighter, but nothing crazy. Just a lil bit better visibly than OEM. I do a lotta driving backwoods when I go home, so I definitely need those fogs. Would the hella 500's be too much of an upgrade? Any alternate ideas? Thanks a ton guys.
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Old 02-03-2005, 01:57 AM   #2
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u proabbly want driving lamps as opposed to fog lamps then.
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Old 02-03-2005, 02:25 AM   #3
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I would say that the Hella 500s are about the smallest upgrade step you could take in upgrading your stock fogs that fit in the stock openings, and looking relatively stock as well.

They are good driving lights. The choice between the driving and fog patterns would depend on the how tight and slow or fast and sweeping you roads are.

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Old 02-03-2005, 03:17 AM   #4
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hella 500's will fit with cart boy mounts....if you want a real up grade try some PIAA 520's ion crystals in fog pattern
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Old 02-03-2005, 10:04 AM   #5
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go with the hella 500s, with the stock bulb, you stock wiring harness will also work. just get some Kartboy brackets, and mount them. you will love them.
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Old 02-04-2005, 12:27 AM   #6
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My '03 TS came with nothing in the fog-holes, so I've installed a set of Hella FF1000 driving lights with the Impreza-specific mounts. They're a little bigger than the stock Impreza foglights, but they still look pretty good.

They're different than a foglight - more like an extra high-beam, and they're VERY bright (I've upgraded to 100w bulbs). I live in rural southeastern British Columbia (read: twisty mountain roads and lots of BIG wildlife), so the added light is worth every extra penny.

I've set up my lights to come on with the high-beams, which is the opposite of the factory fog lamps.
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Old 02-04-2005, 02:15 AM   #7
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Hey guys, I searched through 150 threads, and couldnt find exactly what I'm looking for. I found the big ol thread on aftermarket fog lights, but still didn't help. One of my OEM fogs just went out, so I'm thinking I may just get rid of em and upgrade. I want something that is slightly brighter, but nothing crazy. Just a lil bit better visibly than OEM. I do a lotta driving backwoods when I go home, so I definitely need those fogs. Would the hella 500's be too much of an upgrade? Any alternate ideas? Thanks a ton guys.
Another plug for the Hella FF1000, which is available in both Fog and Driving pattern (duh) but also Hella makes a special bracket JUST for the the 2003-prior Imprezas which allows a perfect mounting of the FF1000 in the factory fog spots... and these lights are WONDERFUL. They are better than the Hella500's because they are FreeForm instead of parabolic (which means they can focus the light much more effectively), and because they are slightly larger (larger reflectors are able to put more light downrange).

As somebody above mentioned, you PROBABLY ought to get driving lights if you goal is back-country driving.

This is the difference in what Fog Lights do for lighting vs what Driving lights do:

FOG:


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Note, that using Driving Lights will require re-wiring your switch so that it comes on with the highbeams instead of with the lowbeams.
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Old 02-04-2005, 11:45 AM   #8
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^^^ Nice representation of Driving lights vs. Fogs ... Now that's some serious visibility improvement ...
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Old 02-10-2005, 01:32 AM   #9
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anyone using the FF1000 with the stock wiring & foglight button ?
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Old 02-10-2005, 10:22 AM   #10
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anyone using the FF1000 with the stock wiring & foglight button ?
I did with my Prodrive lamps (rebadged FF1000 pencil beams). I did switch to a 55w H1 instead of the 100w that came in the kit. They worked fine. Obviously running a seperate relay and power would be better, but this was quick and easy.
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Old 02-11-2005, 08:35 AM   #11
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Another plug for the Hella FF1000, which is available in both Fog and Driving pattern

I havn't found the FF1000's in a fog pattern. Also, looking at rallylights.com they have the FF1000's on sale, but not the kit for WRX. Is there anything included in the kit besides the brackets which you can buy as an accessory (i.e. special wiring harness etc.) Otherwise I can save 20 bucks or so buy buying the brackets separately. Also, for a reasonably competant guy around electrical systems, is this a pretty simple install? I only worry about the grounding side switching.

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Old 02-11-2005, 10:30 AM   #12
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The FF1000s are available in a driving or pencil beam in either halogen or HID.

The kit includes:
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Lamp Kits include 2 Lamps, wiring harness, fuse, relay, switch, 2 Black on White Vinyl Stone Shields and mounting hardware.
The install isn't hard if you are half way electrically competent.
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Old 02-11-2005, 11:02 AM   #13
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And even if you are only 1/4 the way. The hardest part is the wiring switch over so that you are DOT legal..... Then again you may not be too concerned. Just dont EVER use your lights w/ oncoming traffic.
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Old 02-11-2005, 12:36 PM   #14
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I havn't found the FF1000's in a fog pattern. Also, looking at rallylights.com they have the FF1000's on sale, but not the kit for WRX. Is there anything included in the kit besides the brackets which you can buy as an accessory (i.e. special wiring harness etc.) Otherwise I can save 20 bucks or so buy buying the brackets separately. Also, for a reasonably competant guy around electrical systems, is this a pretty simple install? I only worry about the grounding side switching.

Thanks.
I just got the FF Kit (Non WRX) for 89.99 or what ever and got the brackets seperate. You'll also want the Acrylic clear covers because its a PITA to put on the hella hard covers with such little room down there without messing up the aim of the lights. The normal kit comes will all stuff needed to wire. You'll just need a few extra connectors and what not, but it took me about 2 hours to install and i really took my time.
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Old 02-11-2005, 12:57 PM   #15
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If you get driving lights you'll want them in a higher location than under the bumper, where the stock foglights reside. Otherwise you'll either create a lot of glare right ahead or have to point the lights into the sky, which if it's humid out, would mean even more glare.

There are plenty of light bars from manufacturers and do-it -yourselfers if you want long distance lighting. Or you could get a set of Morettes (on my RS, the "high beam" lenses were Cibie Tangos in a driving pattern); maybe someone's got a used set for sale.

Whatever you put in the foglight spot, get some kind of protection and use it; I lost three 500 foglights in the five years and 98K miles I owned my RS, and one was cracked when I removed them before trading it in.
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:05 AM   #16
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Wow, I couldnt copy/paste the original poster's paragraph and have it be any more right on for my situation.

Anyways, where are you guys buying the driving lights from? I have some smaller round PIAAs on my non subie, and they're great. I'm already planning on some shallow/wide fog pattern beamed Bosch something or others to mount on either side of the lisense plate in that opening. So the stock fogs can go away and be replaced by some distance beams of some bright magnatude (wired to stock switch of course).

Thanks for any input from anyone in the know.

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Old 12-22-2005, 01:28 PM   #17
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Prodive Driving Lights:

http://www.oakos.com/Merchant2/merch...de=PRD44SQ5018

IIRC, they're essentially Hella driving lights.
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Old 12-22-2005, 02:51 PM   #18
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I bought my ff1000's from rallylights.com. They have the whole setup for a $134.

http://www.rallylights.com/hella/ff1000.asp

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Old 12-22-2005, 04:22 PM   #19
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I love my Hella driving lights, the 500's (550's?)
They put out so much more light than stock. For my WRX I choose the driving lights, for my RS, I had Fogs.
I'm thinking of doing one of each to cover far and wide.
You can make your own brackets using the stock fog backing plate and 1" wide by 1/8" thick aluminum. The kind available at Home Depot.
I made my own brackets for both cars.
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