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Old 12-21-2005, 08:45 AM   #101
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Great write up. A few quick questions though, since I am a beginner (already made an unfortunate mistake of buying a Dynamat trunk kit).

1. When you speak of adding foam above the layers on the outer door, do you mean just behind the speaker, or the entire door?
2. Could you describe the door speaker baffles a little better?
3. How do you seal off the access holes with tin/aluminum (glue, weld, rivetm, etc)?
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:51 PM   #102
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1) Layer of raamat on the whole inside of the exterior shell of the door followed by ensolite on the whole inside of the exterior of the door.
2) not sure how Rick did this one.
3) I believe earlier in this thread or another he mentioned using self tapping screws to attached the aluminum.

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Old 12-21-2005, 06:53 PM   #103
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1) Layer of raamat on the whole inside of the exterior shell of the door followed by ensolite on the whole inside of the exterior of the door.
2) not sure how Rick did this one.
3) I believe earlier in this thread or another he mentioned using self tapping screws to attached the aluminum.

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So the door would be like this:
outer shell | mat | foam | inner shell | mat | foam .... ?

So you cut the tin to shape over the holes, attach at a few points with self tapping screws, then mat over them. Do you use any type of material to put inbetween the tin and door shell?
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Old 12-22-2005, 11:53 AM   #104
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Your pic is correct but I didn't add tin pieces. I just stretched the pieces of mat over the holes. Lazy I guess. Your directions sound like rick did. I don't really see a need to put anyting between the tin and the door metal, as it will all be covered so resonance won't be an issue.

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Old 01-15-2006, 02:27 PM   #105
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Default Update on the 06 WRX wagon sound deadener install

So we finally got around to working on the front half of the sound deadener install on my friend's steel grey 2006 WRX Sport Wagon.

We got the seats out:


Then methodically removed the carpet and dozens of fasteners that hold it in.


Put down some BQuiet butyl mat and then a roll of BQuiet foam on top.


Getting the seats out is pretty easy. But those electrical connectors underneath are crazy - none of them unclip the same way.

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Old 01-15-2006, 02:34 PM   #106
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Once the carpet was out, you can also see other interesting Subaru engineering techniques such as the plastic runner for the rear floor vents. It is held on by a white clip at the blower outlet.


Once that was removed, the mat was installed and the vent tube refitted.


The rear floor area was matted as well.


While the front seats were out, we install a pair of Wet Okole seat covers. They fit great and will help protect the leather seats from the sweaty mountain bike rides.
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Old 01-15-2006, 11:52 PM   #107
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I've been following this thread...but these latest pictures sicken me. My '91 Mustang was stolen and the interior stripped. It looked like this at the impound lot.
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Old 01-16-2006, 02:43 AM   #108
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That stinks buddy, dang thieves, one thing though, I feel pity for people like that, not pity and want to slap them on the wrist and blam society, parents, etc, pity because they have such a sorry life.

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Old 02-01-2006, 07:56 AM   #109
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Was reading the trunk installs threads, and thought it was time to bring this thread back to life

BTW, I have not finished my deadening work yet, a couple of ensolite details are missing, but all I can say is: WOOOOAAW!!!!

The nicest improvement is the midbass coming from the front doors, and the fact that I can turn the volume up and feel no rattles there......... but the strongest and more obvious improvement was the trunk.

I have a wagon, and all I did was covering the holes in the trunk lid, added a little more RAAMMat over here and there, and put ensolite in top of it. Removed the plastic thing that covers the locking system down at the trunk, and added some ensolite there too. Nothing else.

And you wouldn't belive how my sub sounds now.......... almost no rattles; can't say NO ,it'd be biased


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Old 02-02-2006, 03:11 PM   #110
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rick,

just got the package thx!!

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Old 02-02-2006, 04:47 PM   #111
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Great, now get to work!!

Great fellow enthusiasts here guys, cool dudes, glad I could help you achieve your goals!

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Old 02-04-2006, 12:38 PM   #112
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This is what the stock wagon spare tire well sounds like without deadener.
http://media.putfile.com/WRX-Wheel-W...ound-deadening

Once the B-quiet (like Dynamat) was installed, it sounds like a dull thud without the ringing in the clip above.
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:03 PM   #113
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Hey, just thought I'd chime in here... I matted my front door 3 1/2 years(!) ago, and am still happy with it.
http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13291
I didn't have a good supply of closed cell foam, so I used extra mat.
Rick also made a good recommendation on speakers
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:14 PM   #114
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Hey, just thought I'd chime in here... I matted my front door 3 1/2 years(!) ago, and am still happy with it.
http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13291
I didn't have a good supply of closed cell foam, so I used extra mat.
Rick also made a good recommendation on speakers
Extra mat isn't really a substitute for foam though.... they attenuate different frequencies....
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Old 04-30-2006, 09:44 AM   #115
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Extra mat isn't really a substitute for foam though.... they attenuate different frequencies....
...and in different ways; transmittance, reflectance, etc. I used foam, just not as much as I wanted to.
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Old 04-30-2006, 10:08 PM   #116
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the only thing better than this write up would be this write with pics.
Great job...sticky vote+1

Thanks Rick!
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Old 04-30-2006, 10:55 PM   #117
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Thanks We do have one version, a general install guide with pics, if you want it just email me, rick@raamaudio.com and let me know
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:13 AM   #118
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I just did this mainly to lower in-cabin noise. I did the doors and trunk. The doors have a nice thunk to them now. I figured I'd replace the front speakers while I was in there. Here is what I used:

-1 roll of raammat
-3 yards of ensolite
-1 can of spray adhesive
-2'x4' of perforated aluminum (this covered two holes in the rear doors, three holes in the front doors, and two holes in the trunk. I zipped them in with self tapping metal screws.)
-1 set of 6.5" Front Adapter Rings from IA Performance
-Focal 165 V2 slims
-box knife
-sacraficial scissors
-tin snips for the perf aluminum

I guess the only notes I have are that the resonance in the front door are mainly near the bottom, and more than two layers of mat inside the door are a waste. Also, you should only need foam behind the speaker inside the door. There is really no reason to have foam anywhere else inside the door. I matted the whole trunk, which is probably a waste. If I did it again, I would just mat the resonant areas, the wheel wells, and foam the whole trunk. I found the easiest way to apply the mat was to peel back a small strip to position it inside the door, then peel back the rest when it was in place.

This was the first time I have done anything like this and it was WAY easier than I thought. I already told a buddy I would help him with his car. He was very impressed with the improvement in my car.
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Thanks for sharing your experiences and results!

I agree, doing the doors is most important and in the STI, sealing off the trunk from the cabin will be much easier and more effective than deadening the trunk fully.

One layer on the outer skin of the door, one to two small patches added over that behind the speakers(I prefer two) then a patch of foam over that area only.

Once you seal up the openings in the inner door area with the metal and mat then covering it with foam will reduce road noise more, provide a great thermal barrier, help prevent door panel resonance, etc, highly recommended, I would never skip that step.

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Old 07-11-2006, 02:00 PM   #120
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Yeah, sealing up the doors made a huge difference. I drove around with just the outer matting done for a couple of days, and it quieted things down, but once I sealed the doors it was like night and day. I am hoping to get the trunk sealed up today.

Thanks again, Rick.
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Old 07-11-2006, 02:24 PM   #121
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Great, glad you are happy buddy

Part of my post was just to ensure others did not miss the part about sealing up the trunk from the cabin as it is more critical in the STI than any other car I have ever worked on.

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Sealing up the inner door panel also makes the bass response from the door speakers much more effective. Sealing all the openings and caulking around the speaker mounts makes a big difference.
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Sealing up the inner door panel also makes the bass response from the door speakers much more effective. Sealing all the openings and caulking around the speaker mounts makes a big difference.
I just ran the mat all the way onto the mounts. Took care of any resonance and made a great seal.
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Old 07-12-2006, 12:25 PM   #124
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Great, glad you are happy buddy

Part of my post was just to ensure others did not miss the part about sealing up the trunk from the cabin as it is more critical in the STI than any other car I have ever worked on.

Rick

Grrr... the wife interupted me, so I didn't finish, but I can tell it is going to help a TON because that is the only place noise is comming from now. hahahaha.
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:22 AM   #125
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Rick,
I am planning on doing your #1 basic install on my STi. I don't care about car audio at all, but I'd like to cut down on the horrible road noise that the STi has. Can you please elaborate on where you would cut down on your basic install for this situation? Thanks!

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....If not concerned with audio you could do all that with alot less than a roll of mat but I would use a few yards of ensolite, weight gain could be kept in the 15-20 lb range doing it that way.
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