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Old 02-10-2005, 12:28 AM   #1
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i did some searches and couldn't find the right answers
So tomorrow im going in for my 15k service:
Install Moc Oil Conditioner
Install Moc Fuel Cleaner
Rotate Tires
Service Battery
Service rear brakes
and they are gonna inspect lots of other things, but at the end it says: Recommended at this time:
MOC Fuel System Cleaning and Decarbonization and Brake System Flush
i was wondering, what do those do, and are they worth the doing them or is it just something for the dealership to strip more money from me.
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Old 02-10-2005, 12:56 AM   #2
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Read your manual and look at the service schedule in there, and follow that. At 15K no major services are needed, the 30K is the first major service. All you really need at this point is an oil change (if due) and some inspections, you can easily do it yourself.
Do not go for the fuel cleaning, oil conditioning, decarbonization or brake flush. As you already suspect these services are not needed and are just the dealer trying to dig into your pocket. The only valid service out of those is a brake flush, but not at 15K. That would normally be done at the 30K or two year interval. The others should never be done, they are a waste of money and Subaru does not recommend any of them.
There should also be no need for a rear brake service @15K unless you have a known problem with them, if anything the front brakes would need service first. You'll usually go through two or three sets of front pads for every set of rears.
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Old 02-10-2005, 02:12 AM   #3
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Mulder, thanks for the quick reply, and gotta love X-Files
But for tomorrow, what should i have them do then?
the dealership gave me this paper that gives me a list of what needs to be done and here is what it says for 15k:
Install Moc Oil Conditioner
Install Moc Fuel Cleaner
Rotate Tires
Service Battery
Service rear brakes
INSPECT:
Tire Pressure
Tire Condition
Coolant hoses and clamps
Belts
Exhaust system and hangers
Exterior lamps
Fluid Levels, Leaks
Front Disc Breakes
Throttle Linkage
Vacuum Lines
Fuel Lines
Air Filter
So what should i tell them to do, besides "stop stealing my money, and just look at this________"
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Old 02-10-2005, 07:08 AM   #4
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Tell them only to do what you can not reasonably do yourself.

....the 15k is, really, just an oil change(I'd replace the air filter, too) and inspection....don't forget to put some distilled water in your battery, if you know how.
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Old 02-10-2005, 07:51 AM   #5
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The service as you listed is mostly a bunch of inspections, which is why they are trying to pump it up with those unneeded services. And, I still would like to know why they are recommending a rear brake service at 15K.
Another thing you don't mention is how much they are charging you, chances are it's way too much.
This is a very good opportunity to bypass the greedy dealer entirely and do your own service, and as long as you document everything carefully and keep receipts for fluids and parts there is no problem with your warranty.
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Old 02-10-2005, 10:29 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Mulder
And, I still would like to know why they are recommending a rear brake service at 15K.
Do they sell VWs, too? Late model Audis and VWs have real soft rear pads that disappear in a hurry. Lots of dust, too.
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Old 02-10-2005, 12:22 PM   #7
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Look at Subarus' recomendations in YOUR service manual. Circle what the manual requires and take it with you and show the dealer what is required. Dealers can have their own agenda and recomendations that are not Subarus. My service manual recomends an oil/filer change/check all fluid levels and rotate tires. Unless your haveing a problem that is all you need. eddie
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Old 02-10-2005, 12:27 PM   #8
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Old 02-10-2005, 01:31 PM   #9
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I had the same question a while back as our 03 TS just turned over 15K recently (we don't put a lot of miles on it obviously). I was able to find threads similar to this one with a search on "15K service" IIRC.

Anyway, from other posters' experiences, I was prepared for the bogus and excessive list of services when I called my dealer and asked them what the 15K service entailed, but was pleasantly surprised. They do the oil change, inspections, and brake fluid change for $70, which isn't that bad considering it's a dealer. If the car was 1 year old and had 15K miles, I'd pass on the brake fluid, but at 2 years now it might not be a bad idea in my case.

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Old 02-10-2005, 02:06 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Mariuslt
Mulder, thanks for the quick reply, and gotta love X-Files
But for tomorrow, what should i have them do then?
the dealership gave me this paper that gives me a list of what needs to be done and here is what it says for 15k:
Install Moc Oil Conditioner
Install Moc Fuel Cleaner
Rotate Tires
Service Battery
Service rear brakes
INSPECT:
Tire Pressure
Tire Condition
Coolant hoses and clamps
Belts
Exhaust system and hangers
Exterior lamps
Fluid Levels, Leaks
Front Disc Breakes
Throttle Linkage
Vacuum Lines
Fuel Lines
Air Filter
So what should i tell them to do, besides "stop stealing my money, and just look at this________"

seriously, is that a joke? Do you not have your manual for your car? Can you not read the section for 15k service?????
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Old 09-06-2005, 08:56 AM   #11
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Bump for being helpful ... Sometimes I just have to wonder ... I guess having a new car, just makes you want to do these services because they say they need to be done ... Went to my dealership to check it out while getting my Oil Filter/Crush Washer, and damn, $260 ... So I figured I'd check it out here before doing anything ... Read the manual as mentioned (duh ... Sometimes I'm an idiot), and low and behold there's barely anything there ... Needless to say I've done the 15k service myself with the addition of an air filter ... Sometimes this place is just invaluable ... Thanks for the sanity check ...
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