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Old 02-16-2005, 01:18 PM   #1
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As the title says two thumbs up for Don Docksteader Subaru for finding out what was wrong with my car. My car was in for servicing on Feb 11 and got my car back today. I was the one with out power to my car and it ran like a slug. Thank god for warranty I took it down to the shop and told them the problem. The out come was i ended up getting a new up pipe and up to date ECU. Damn the car feels like a beast again. Raymond Lee the Service Advisor was a great help and had me inform me what was wrong from time to time. These guys are excellent and I recommend anyone who needs there car for service to go down there and look for him.. Awesome to deal with!
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Old 02-16-2005, 01:44 PM   #2
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Old 02-16-2005, 01:59 PM   #3
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so did u take your boost guage off and aftermarket bov before you went in?
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Old 02-16-2005, 02:00 PM   #4
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clogged uppipe? not getting full boost coz the cat is fried and blocks the pipe? I've seen many ppl have this problem.... all of them had BOV
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Old 02-16-2005, 02:03 PM   #5
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so did u take your boost guage off and aftermarket bov before you went in?
Yes i too off the boost guage and the BOV off and had all the stock parts back in and had it service.. all under warranty! heehee
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Old 02-16-2005, 02:04 PM   #6
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clogged uppipe? not getting full boost coz the cat is fried and blocks the pipe? I've seen many ppl have this problem.... all of them had BOV
So is it worth it having a aftermarket BOV in the car or should i leave the stock one yet?
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Old 02-16-2005, 02:08 PM   #7
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My guess is the rich spikes caused by an atmospheric venting aftermarket BOV clog the cat. So your car will run better and and not clog your cat but you won't get the "cool" sound without the aftermarket BOV. I guess it's your call.
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Old 02-16-2005, 06:55 PM   #8
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how long have u had ur bov on ur car for?
with aftermarket up and down pipes, would this problem still occur??
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:34 PM   #9
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my guess is... you will shoot flames out of your exhaust
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Old 02-16-2005, 07:54 PM   #10
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stock pipes w/ cats + BOV = clogged cats (quite long term)

catless aftermarket exhaust + BOV = flames

afy06: I'd suggest go catless before putting your BOV back on if you really like the sound .... most ppl here hates BOV... they call it rice... but BOV sounds awesome do what you like...
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Old 02-16-2005, 08:01 PM   #11
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As the title says two thumbs up for Don Docksteader Subaru for finding out what was wrong with my car. My car was in for servicing on Feb 11 and got my car back today. I was the one with out power to my car and it ran like a slug. Thank god for warranty I took it down to the shop and told them the problem. The out come was i ended up getting a new up pipe and up to date ECU. Damn the car feels like a beast again. Raymond Lee the Service Advisor was a great help and had me inform me what was wrong from time to time. These guys are excellent and I recommend anyone who needs there car for service to go down there and look for him.. Awesome to deal with!

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Old 02-16-2005, 09:35 PM   #12
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Which Don Dock did you go to? Coquitlam?
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Old 02-17-2005, 02:58 AM   #13
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Which Don Dock did you go to? Coquitlam?
The one in Vancouver off Marine and Cambie.. awesome guys there!
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Old 02-17-2005, 02:59 AM   #14
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Wonderful Alfred!


I"m one happy camper. but hey what is your two cent on BOV?
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Old 02-17-2005, 03:03 AM   #15
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I"m one happy camper. but hey what is your two cent on BOV?
Useless. Doesn't the WRX stock BOV good until 18psi? Most people replace the BOV so other people know its turbo... I found the GFB one a nice unit as you can adjust 100/0, 75/25, 50/50 etc. On my old car I had a 50/50 SSQV AVO, you couldnt hear it until WOT.
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Old 02-17-2005, 03:04 AM   #16
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for Happy_Days, BOVs are RICE
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Old 02-17-2005, 03:19 AM   #17
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BOVs aren't rice. You need one. But going aftermarket BOV for the sound is rice
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Old 02-17-2005, 01:47 PM   #18
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bypass valve (recirculationg BOV) = not rice
BOV (atmospheric) = rice and causes rich spikes
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Old 02-18-2005, 03:10 AM   #19
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i guess were all Rice out! hahahahaha
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Old 02-18-2005, 04:22 AM   #20
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bypass valve (recirculationg BOV) = not rice
BOV (atmospheric) = rice and causes rich spikes

yes - unnecessary and rice.
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Old 02-18-2005, 06:24 AM   #21
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bypass valve (recirculationg BOV) = not rice
BOV (atmospheric) = rice and causes rich spikes
venting BOVs help reduce knocks-after-shifts.... (only under high load)... at least it does good on my case .... so I dont have to add fuel in my 0% load column under the fuel map

rice = useless parts thats added to the car....

BOV or BPV is needed.. so they're not rice who doesnt like the sound of a BOV anyway?
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Old 02-18-2005, 10:18 AM   #22
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venting BOVs help reduce knocks-after-shifts.... (only under high load)... at least it does good on my case .... so I dont have to add fuel in my 0% load column under the fuel map

rice = useless parts thats added to the car....

BOV or BPV is needed.. so they're not rice who doesnt like the sound of a BOV anyway?

I need to be educated -- cause I don't understand how something that is meant to release back pressure (pre throttle body) - so that your turbo doesn't get compressor surge have to do with reducing knocks. And our stock wastegates are good up to what? 19-20psi??

Yeah i like the sound -- more so on other types of turbo cars (supras) -- but not if it's at the risk of running extra rich in between shifts.
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Old 02-18-2005, 11:10 AM   #23
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Adding extra sticks give you extra horsepower that is Rice OUT hahaha
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Old 02-18-2005, 12:32 PM   #24
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hijack: usually knock between shifts is caused by large timing drops which in the case of the Utec can be solved by locking down timing in the 0% column from about 4750 and up. Mine is set at a value of 23 degrees and shift knock is a thing of the past. As for the BOV helping against knock, adding more fuel CAN deter knock but doesn't always when it's a timing issue unless it's a large amount of fuel which some BOV's cause when the car goes rich between shifts.
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Old 02-18-2005, 02:29 PM   #25
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I need to be educated -- cause I don't understand how something that is meant to release back pressure (pre throttle body) - so that your turbo doesn't get compressor surge have to do with reducing knocks. And our stock wastegates are good up to what? 19-20psi??

Yeah i like the sound -- more so on other types of turbo cars (supras) -- but not if it's at the risk of running extra rich in between shifts.
knocks-after-shifts happens because of the lean condition when we shift.. with utec you will need to pull down the timing in the lower load column and ramp it up not more than 2 degress on every 10% of load... adding a little bit of fuel in the 0% and 10% column also helps handle this partial lean condition..

we all know that BOV makes you run partially rich when shifting... the ECU dumps the metered fuel.. so we dont need to add a lot of fuel in the lower load columns
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