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Old 02-21-2005, 03:45 PM   #1
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Hey guys, dunno if you read my last thread about my L, but turns out the waterpump seized up and made the car over heat. So to tore the front of the car apart, leaving me only the crank pully to pull. I changed the oil and found new traces of coolent in it so I didnt nuke a headgasket which makes me happy.

Now before I take anymore of the thing apart I have a question. First when I rotate the crank pulley, I can easily turn it about half a rotation of the wrench before noticing a lot of resistance. Could this be because of the pup being siezed?

Next when I aligh the pass/ or driver timing mark (white paint on cam gear) , the other gear isnt not even close to being aligned, being almost a half inch from where it should be. What could have cause this, and is this anything I should be worried about....aka bad timing breaking anything in the motor. I have yet to pull the final cover off, so I cant see what the third alignment point looks like.

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Old 02-21-2005, 03:58 PM   #2
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First when I rotate the crank pulley, I can easily turn it about half a rotation of the wrench before noticing a lot of resistance.
Well, at least you know you're still getting some compression.

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Next when I aligh the pass/ or driver timing mark (white paint on cam gear) , the other gear isnt not even close to being aligned, being almost a half inch from where it should be.
You need to have the third (I'm assuming the middle) cover off and align all three marks (passenger cam, crank, driver cam). If the belt was off that far, you would know it. I don't think anyone forgets the sound of pistons hitting valves.
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Old 02-21-2005, 06:27 PM   #3
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good good, thats what I was hoping to hear. But even if the third lines up, i can see the marks being off, like a figure width maybe of diff. I def. didnt hear my motor eating itself up when running, just the screeching of the belt across the seized pulley. Just got all the parts in today, and I will be puttin her back together tomorrow night.....hopefully everything goes well.
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BTW - The crank pulley must be removed to get that center cover off. Spray the bolt with some PB Blaster or WD-40 and let it sit for a while before attempting to break it loose.
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Old 02-21-2005, 07:59 PM   #5
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I was just gonna use an impact gun on it. Is there anyway to hold it in place if that impact isnt availible
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Old 02-21-2005, 08:21 PM   #6
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another question, I just noticed I need to remove the driver side cam gear to get to the water pump. Are these know to be a pain in the ass or anything, and when taking it off and putting it back on, are there anything's i need to know so I dont mess it up
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Old 02-21-2005, 08:28 PM   #7
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click back once and go down the page to the (diy or pay to have timing belt changed) thread and check it out.

There is info reguarding this in that thread along with about 30 others should you choose to search.
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Old 02-22-2005, 10:50 AM   #8
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I was just gonna use an impact gun on it. Is there anyway to hold it in place if that impact isnt availible
Do a search on 'crank pulley'. There are two methods:

* put tranny in 5th, chock wheels & use breaker bar
* brace breaker bar & turn ignition key quickly <--scary, but effective.

It sounds like you have a good portion of the front end apart, so method #1 will probably be the way to go. Spray that bad boy with PB blaster & let it soak. Have a cheater bar to slide over the end of your breaker for more leverage.

As for the cam gears - ideally, they should be held in place with a chain wrench. However, we simply braced mine & removed the bolts with the impact. Also soak these with PB Blaster before removing.
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* brace breaker bar & turn ignition key quickly <--scary, but effective.
I used this method on my old mustang - works really well - just MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE BREAKER BAR BRACED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION or it'll be catapulting around and most likely destroying something...
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Old 02-22-2005, 09:51 PM   #10
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yea tore it all apart tonight. The water pump was so shot, it wasnt even funny. Put the new belt on gaskets, thermo and belt. Good stuff, thing runs like a champ now. I love it agian

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