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Old 07-17-2001, 12:37 PM   #1
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Question Is it worth it? Cobb PRM $270 Intake VS Ganzflow?

Ok I am looking at all the different intakes and my choices come down to Larry's Ganzflow for $150 or the Cobb PRM $270 Intake. This is for a 2000RS. Is there a big enough difference in power (concidering the whole Powerband) to justify the $270 price tag for the Cobb intake?
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Old 07-17-2001, 12:51 PM   #2
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I just read somewhere that a company is coming out with an intake that sits right on top of your throttle body and looks just like an intercooler. I don't know exactly how they manage to keep moisture out but the prototype showed Flywheel Dynoed gains all accross the RPM range for HP and Torque. If I remember correctly the peak increase was 14hp and 11lb ft. They said these will be competitively priced close to all the other intakes out there.

Sounds really good to me.
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Old 07-17-2001, 12:58 PM   #3
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Default i was just about to ask the same thing...

i'm in the market for an intake too...i emailed cobb tuning but they haven't gotten back to me yet....so right now i'm still in the process of deciding...any suggestions?
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Old 07-17-2001, 01:07 PM   #4
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If they come out with an intake that uses the scoop I AM THERE! That would be too sweet!
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Old 07-17-2001, 01:12 PM   #5
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Default on top of throttle body?

I know it seems possible, I've tryed think ing of a way to do it WITHOUT GETTING WATER IN THERE, I know there are, actually everyone out there is smarter than me so it seems possible. Actually using our hood scoops.....COOL!!!! and it seems there would be a deffinite ram-air effecy not to mention the shorter distance and as-cool-as-possible air
from the outside.
Anybody know anything elts concerning the "intercooler intake" or is it just specualtion and rumor.

I want one!!!! Oh ya, did I mention I have a 99.....fragile sensor.....

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Old 07-17-2001, 04:30 PM   #6
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If you're into car shows or just showing off period, get the Cobb for sure. Otherwise... I dunno. I guess the Ganz is a decent piece. I haven't tried it.

The scoop isn't exactly the best place for an intake. The water issue is more of a non-issue, unless you're driving through deep enough puddles to plow water over the hood. The scoop stops collecting air at speeds above what? 40mph? The sweet aerodynamics of the front end forces the air up and over the scoop.
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Old 07-17-2001, 04:52 PM   #7
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Don't know about the COBB but I got the Ganzflow and K&N from Larry and it is AWESOME!

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Old 07-17-2001, 05:24 PM   #8
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i have ridden in a car with the cobb cai once it hits about 4500 rpm it is REALLLY loud .. where as the ganzflow is still pretty quiet

this car had the cobb cai+headders+stroumung .. wow big differance(much faster) from my ganz flow +axle back flow master setup
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Old 07-17-2001, 07:18 PM   #9
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I will have a used 2000 ganzflow for sale relatively soon. It would definitely beat the $150 tag!

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Old 07-17-2001, 09:09 PM   #10
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I put on the Cobb CAI a few weekd ago and I definately feel that it was money well spent. Sounds sweet and the car pulls strong all the way to redline. I did not notice any low end power loss.
ANd it looks cool too!!

From what I have been reading when I was looking at intakes, Larry's is very good for the price. But the people that have the Cobb swear by it.

Bottom line, it's up to you on how much you want to spend.

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Old 07-17-2001, 10:10 PM   #11
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Finally got to see fast and furious today, and now i really really got to fix up my 01 RS, I plan on ordering a COBB next month when i get the money. That will be my first mod on the car, hopefully a full exhaust will be next. I was originally going to get a weapon R but the COBB looks like its put together better. Got to fix it up soon all my friends wanna race me. Ive been challenged by two integras, 1 civic, and one cougar. Cant wait to smoke em in AWD..........
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Old 07-17-2001, 10:46 PM   #12
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The gains that MY99 2.5GT talked about sounds like the results that we got with the intake that we designed and tested on the dyno. Our results were a gain of 14.6 HP and 12.9 ft/lbs of torque. Th only other modifications to the car were a Magnaflow muffler and Denso Iridium spark plugs. The intake doesn't look like an intercooler, although it sits on top of the throttlebody like an intercooler. We are awaiting a shipment of aluminum to come in so that we can complete the production boxes, which should be ready around the end of the month or early next month. I will post to the club when we are ready to start taking orders for intakes. Thank you,
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Old 07-17-2001, 11:27 PM   #13
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definitly worth the money. I don't think cobb would carry it if it wasn't top quality. I have it and I am very happy.

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Old 07-18-2001, 01:10 AM   #14
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Gary,

The setup you mentioned above, is there a place I can go to for more detail on what you guys are doing? It sounds very promising, but again I want to know how you solved the water getting into the intake problem.

Hope you guys finish with it soon...need more HP!!


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Old 07-18-2001, 04:10 AM   #15
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I got to ride in a 2000 RS with the Cobb + Stromung and WOW does the car jump!
And its not loud at all in the car or outside the car til you hit high RPMS (when you WANT the car to sound sweet)

Its a High quality peice too (the cobb intake), I havent seen an aftermarket peice yet that looks so clean and perfect like that...

Meanwhile, I dont think the ganzflow does much of anything... Just leave the plastic stock intake off entirely with the K+N in the box, you get the same performance
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Old 07-18-2001, 08:52 AM   #16
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Talking i want my cobb...

but i haven't been able to contact them to place my order
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Old 07-18-2001, 10:05 AM   #17
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Send them an email and wait a few days. They're pretty backed up. I don't think I ever got a same-day response. Maybe they only check email at home. I don't know. But they always got back to me sooner or later.
Not like subaruparts.com where it was something like 17 weeks though.
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Old 07-18-2001, 12:03 PM   #18
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Everytime I call Trey he's there. I placed my order over the phone and I recomend you do too. He is a great guy to talk to and he can drop knowledge all over you.


oh yea, and buy Cobb everything, not just the intake.
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Old 07-18-2001, 04:51 PM   #19
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Talking just called...

caught a few busy signals at first..but finally got through...and that being said...i'm gonna have a cobb cai in 2-3 weeks
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could someone post pics of both?
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Old 07-18-2001, 08:54 PM   #21
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hehe, who's got the pics. this is another point for trey.
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here's a pic of the cobb cai....i tried getting the ganzflow pic but his site was down or something....i'll post it when i can get to it
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heh I know which one Im going with
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subystyle - I want to remind people that your "14.6 HP and 12.9 ft/lbs of torque" gain was with your intake vs an airbox with NO intake attached, not vs a stock intake.

While I have no doubts that your up and coming intake will make good power, it is very clear that the RS with NO intake attached to the stock airbox makes more noise but less power than stock, and has a lower documented top speed than a car with a stock intake attached to the airbox.

People can't compare apples to oranges and make a decision when other intakes are tested against the stock intake and not vs no intake attached at all.

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