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Old 03-05-2005, 06:24 PM   #1
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I'm getting A STi RA intake with the tumbler deletes. I know this is going to cause the ECU to think the engine has a malfunctioning tumbler generator. My question is: Is there a fix for this? Like a resistor? Thanks for any feedback.
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Old 03-06-2005, 07:23 AM   #2
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There has to be someone here that's done this...
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Old 03-06-2005, 07:42 AM   #3
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I asked this question a few days ago the answers I got were no very good but itís the only thing avl. APS tumbler deletes with block off plates that fool the ECU into thinking it has proper functioning TGVs, or hack away at your stock ones like I did and hope you can reassemble them right as to not throw a CEL but I screwed it up.
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Old 03-07-2005, 12:44 PM   #4
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Bump up... nobody can help with this???
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Old 03-07-2005, 12:51 PM   #5
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Wrong forum.
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Old 03-07-2005, 12:52 PM   #6
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http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/wr...ems/tdi_01.htm

scroll down and look....the 'gold' thingies.....
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Old 03-07-2005, 10:08 PM   #7
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ecutec can get rid of the tgv code...
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Old 03-07-2005, 10:19 PM   #8
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...there is, really, no need to have any code in the first place.....if the actuator shafts are left in place and functioning the tiny amount of blocked flow is just about nil and you can keep everything all happy without messing with any of that.
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Old 03-08-2005, 11:42 AM   #9
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Thanks for the input guys. I know about the APS 'gold ' thingies. I don't think they will just sell them by themselves though.


jblaine "Wrong forum." Thanks for your help too. I just love it when people are happy to share their wealth of knowlege. FYI, I originally had this in the electrical/lighting forum... It was moved.


Anyone else have any ideas?
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Old 03-08-2005, 12:25 PM   #10
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this is the right forum... call aps and and ask them maybe?
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Old 03-08-2005, 01:06 PM   #11
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You can just leave them plugged into the harness. As long as they are plugged in and ziptied to a part of the harness the car will run great. I have the tgv deletes that were ceramic coated.....Mine are just plugged in and hanging...
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Old 03-08-2005, 01:29 PM   #12
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Take a look at the StreetTUNER. I think it can shut off the code for the TGV's.
You could also give Fullthrottle speed a call and see how they are comming with thier fix.
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You can just leave them plugged into the harness. As long as they are plugged in and ziptied to a part of the harness the car will run great. I have the tgv deletes that were ceramic coated.....Mine are just plugged in and hanging...

so you saying you have no "rod" in there at all and you have them pluged up and you have no CEL? OR am i reading this wrong. I did my home grown TGV delete and put it all back but i did not get the angle just right now i have a TGV CEL.
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so you saying you have no "rod" in there at all and you have them pluged up and you have no CEL? OR am i reading this wrong. I did my home grown TGV delete and put it all back but i did not get the angle just right now i have a TGV CEL. Mav

The shaft is spring loaded so that the butterfly is never closed all the way....it is possible to take the motor/sensor off and fix this(I have done so).
It is easier if you have a scanner(I do) and you know which one, or both, are 'bad' and fix either the bad one or so you know when you have one 'good' and can do the other one...........if all that makes any sense at all....
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Well I'm not sure if it throws a cell, I'm running a utec and still new to that. I can say that before I had the motor plugged in the car ran but it would not make boost and it would punish you if you tried...So I mean it could be throwing a cel, but it sure as hell isn't slowing the car down any
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Thanks for all the help guys. I really appreciate it when people share what they've experienced and know. I look forward to installing it. For the guys that have done this; did it improve your throttle responce any?
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i wouldn't think it would increase throttle response per se. it's not near the throttle. rather it would improve the VE of the motor across the powerband, especially as total charge mass goes up.
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Old 03-18-2005, 03:23 AM   #18
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I'll find out here in less than a month... That's when I go back on leave. I'm stationed over in Greece right now (in the military). When I get back, it's been over 9 months since I drove her. I wonder if it's gonna feel fast again? (a little over 260 whp) You know how you get used to it after driving day to day.
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Take a look at the StreetTUNER. I think it can shut off the code for the TGV's.
You could also give Fullthrottle speed a call and see how they are comming with thier fix.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=653658

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Just for future knowledge the StreetTuner does not allow you to disable the TGV codes... yet. They are working on it.

Apparently they are considered "critical" codes and can't just be shut off that easily.
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