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Old 03-04-2005, 05:48 PM   #1
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Question Advice? SSR Comp & 225/50-16, WRX Wagon

For my 2003 WRX Wagon (stock suspension), I'm planning to purchase SSR Competition 16x7.5-48 wheels and Bridgestone Potenza RE750 225/50-16. Tire Rack seems reasonable.

These are expensive rims, but, damn, at only 11.5 lbs per rim, driving will be like good sex.

I consistently drive the snot out of the car on the street and will be running a few C.O.M. time trials on tracks like NHIS. (I have another set of rims with snow tires.)

The following calculator says that outboard clearence with fender will be reduced by 0.6 inches over stock wheel/tire.
http://gs.tolan-hoechst.com/tirecalc.htm

Anyone want to try to talk me out of this purchase?
What are the chances I'll have rear fender rubbing?
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Old 03-04-2005, 07:27 PM   #2
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You might rub. If you move up to the 17" SSR Comps, you move to a +50 offset which is better if you want to run 225s. I always recommend 215 on +48 offset wheels for wagons.
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Old 03-04-2005, 07:32 PM   #3
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Your tire choice could be better, IMO.
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Old 03-04-2005, 07:58 PM   #4
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I need to keep 16" rim & sidewall height for pothole resistance.
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Old 03-04-2005, 07:59 PM   #5
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What tire choice would you recommend?
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Old 03-04-2005, 08:23 PM   #6
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Old 03-04-2005, 09:08 PM   #7
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I think you'll be fine fitment wise, you didn't say if you were lowered or not though. Worse case scenario you get your rear fenders rolled

I'd have to agree w/ Scotty the 750 is a pretty good all around all season tire, but if your springing for SSR's I'd have to recommend a higher echelon tire.

I'll add a few to Scotty's list to look at- Toyo T1S, Bridgestoen S03, Michelin Pilot Sport, Goodyear GSD3.

These all provide good wet and dry grip (non-winter ofcourse).

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Old 03-05-2005, 03:34 AM   #8
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that is a pretty neat calculator!
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Old 03-05-2005, 07:44 AM   #9
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I have 17in SSR comps and been through several potholes in the D.C./Baltimore Metro area. No problems with them yet and I've had them for about 2 1/2 yrs. I love these wheels. I don't think you will have to worry too much about the 17's, they're strong as well as light.
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Old 03-05-2005, 08:22 AM   #10
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You should be fine running most 225/50-16's on those SSR's.

If I was able to run the 225/45-17 Falken Azenis with a 9.1" tread width on my 17x7.5" +48 wheels, you shouldn't have a problem.
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Old 03-05-2005, 12:44 PM   #11
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You might rub. If you move up to the 17" SSR Comps, you move to a +50 offset which is better if you want to run 225s. I always recommend 215 on +48 offset wheels for wagons.
There are very few decent choices in tires at 215 50 16.
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I don't think the 16" SSR's will rub with a 225/50 on a stock suspension.....if so, only when fully loaded...and driven hard...at the same time...
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I don't think the 16" SSR's will rub with a 225/50 on a stock suspension.....if so, only when fully loaded...and driven hard...at the same time...
I've had this set up (16" SSR Comps with 225 50 SZ 50 EP's) and you can get it to rub just slightly under those exact conditions.
Fully loaded and sliding.
The rubbing just made a little noise with no damage to the tire. Boy it was fun doing it.

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Old 03-08-2005, 06:42 PM   #14
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Default they will fit

last spring i went for ssr's and gsd3 225-50-16
i got the 16x7 [ 11 lb. each ]
they fit with about 1/2 inch to spare
tires are a little pricy but the wrx loves them
....by the way, the light weight is very noticible in improved acceleration and braking.
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Quote:
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last spring i went for ssr's and gsd3 225-50-16
i got the 16x7 [ 11 lb. each ]
they fit with about 1/2 inch to spare
tires are a little pricy but the wrx loves them
....by the way, the light weight is very noticible in improved acceleration and braking.
do you have any pictures of them?? not near philly are you?? I'm examining my choices for this summer....real hard.

Are the T-1Rs out yet??

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Old 03-08-2005, 09:03 PM   #16
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sorry-no pictures at this time

wheels + tires are in storage in garage

using stock wheels and re92 tires for winter duty

yes i am in bucks county and south jersey area daily

all ssr wheels are great i got my package from tire rack , check them out
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The 7.5" rim adds ~ a .2" increase in section width over the 7" (same tire ofcourse).

I've been buggin 1010 tires (Canada) about once a week- the T1R's are due in very soon (so they tell me )
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I rubbed under loaded conditions (passengers and slight cornering) with my 17x7 P1s ET 53 w/Kumho Ecsta Supra 712s. (i thought they were friendly offsets!) It seems like every 225/50-16 I've looked at has a wider section and width than the kumhos. It looks like i'm going to have to roll my fenders..... At least I have a heatgun.

So, Mike, you're saying if it measures say....9.1" on a 7" rim, it'll be 9.3"ish on a 7.5" rim? Do you think a 225 is better suited to the 7 or 7.5inch rim?

If only i'd be happy with a 205.....
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p.s. thanks for the diligence on the tires m8! cheers!
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Wylie Correct ~ .2" increase w/ a .5" increase in width. I'd say both the 7 or 7.5" would be well suited for the 225. The 7.5" will give you a little wider footprint and effectively stiffens the sidewall slightly more than the 7".

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I rubbed under loaded conditions (passengers and slight cornering) with my 17x7 P1s ET 53 w/Kumho Ecsta Supra 712s. (i thought they were friendly offsets!) It seems like every 225/50-16 I've looked at has a wider section and width than the kumhos. It looks like i'm going to have to roll my fenders..... At least I have a heatgun.

So, Mike, you're saying if it measures say....9.1" on a 7" rim, it'll be 9.3"ish on a 7.5" rim? Do you think a 225 is better suited to the 7 or 7.5inch rim?

If only i'd be happy with a 205.....
-wYlie
p.s. thanks for the diligence on the tires m8! cheers!
You could look into rear camber bolts too. that would solve the problem. I am amazed that you rub. I have the 070 (which are wide) on my wagon and don't rub at all on STi BBS wheel (+53)
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i was amazed also...but four avg sized ppl and a little turn (in town and i wasn't even trying) and scccrrrreeeee.... I do have rear camber bolts. I'm 'only' set at -0.6 in the rear. I might bump that up a little, but it seemed to hit the rubber strip pretty good.

I looked at my alignment....I couldn't get that much out of my fronts, so I backed down the rear. I'm running STi grp N tops F/R, I might need to go to camber/caster plates - recommendations??? My apologies to xracer for taking over your thread....hope you get some useful information out of this.

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Caster/camberplates would do several things- all good . It will let you run more camber up front-~ -2.0ish, will give you ~ 1.5 degrees of additional caster and the ability to even caster out side to side (cross caster), it will allow you to run more camber in the rear- which might solve your rubbing problem.

The other option would be to get the rear fenders rolled or run more camber in the rear w/ your current setup.

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