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Old 04-16-2001, 06:39 PM   #1
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Question In neutral at stoplight?

What does everyone do when stopped at a light? Do you leave it in first and hold the clutch in? Do you just put it in neutral? Does either have any adverse effect on the transmission?

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Old 04-16-2001, 06:43 PM   #2
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I put it into neutral- I dont' know why maybe two things- I have an extremely bad ankle (fused and all that other fun stuff) so that way I don't have to keep constant pressure on it, and my father (not that he knows an incredible amt about cars) once told me that it's easier on the clutch over time. but mainly it's the ankle thing for me
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Old 04-16-2001, 06:45 PM   #3
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Yep, holding the clutch in wears the throwout bearing.
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Old 04-16-2001, 06:45 PM   #4
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As long as you aren't using the clutch to keep the car in place (such as on a hill) it's just about the same as if you had it in neutral. I do believe it wears on the clutch a small amount. I keep the clutch in because I'm too lazy to worry about putting it in and taking it out of neutral.

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Old 04-16-2001, 06:47 PM   #5
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That's right! Stepping on clutch at stop light will cause prematurely wear out the throw-out bearings. Leave the car in neutral at red lights.
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Old 04-16-2001, 06:48 PM   #6
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I highly recommend that you DO NOT hold the clutch in at stop lights. It will lead to premature wear. Ask me how I know. I've been driving manual vehicles since 1979, and have owned 10 vehicles. For some reason, I started depressing the clutch on my 85 GTI and within a year it blew. Highly unusual, but when it happens on Christmas eve, 40 miles from home, its nice to know how to rev match. I milked home, but I stopped pressing the clutch in at stop lights and the like. Haven't had a problem since. The mechanic told me that the clutch is still "working"/spinning at idle when you press and hold it. Also, don't "ride" the clutch while driving. After your shifts, take your foot completely off the pedal. I have letting the wife drive the car, cause she has that bad habit. If you want the clutch to last, use it only when shifting.

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Old 04-16-2001, 06:48 PM   #7
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I leave it in neutral most of the time.
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Old 04-16-2001, 06:49 PM   #8
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Never "leave it in first and hold the clutch in" for too long...i.e. like waiting for a light to change (2-3 minutes). Not too kind on the clutch, especially the throwout bearing due to the force exerted, I believe. Personally, I put it in neutral and shift to first gear only when I can go.
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Old 04-16-2001, 06:56 PM   #9
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I leave it in neutral w/clutch out, but if I am the last in line and a car comes up behind, I'll put in gear. Might be just enough to avoid being rear-ended
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Old 04-16-2001, 07:55 PM   #10
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Well, I haven't had my car long enough to tell you the wear and tear, but... I usually will hold in the clutch when braking and will release it and put it in neutral once I'm stopped. I suppose this is what most of you guys do?
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Old 04-16-2001, 08:07 PM   #11
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A loooong time ago when I first started driving I left the clutch in out of laziness but as my left foot started to have some problems with a nerve under my toes where the clutch pedal pressure is, I started always putting it in neutral. After years of driving a clutch (and about 5 years of that in heavy bumper-to-bumper traffic, stop-and-go interstate at rush hour), sometimes my left foot kills me but I'm just careful of the shoes I wear to drive.

Save your foot and put it in neutral. You'll save wear and tear not only on your car, but yourself as well.
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Old 04-16-2001, 08:08 PM   #12
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i leave the clutch alone when braking unless 1) i'm going slow enough and about to come to a stop, or 2) i'm heal-and-toe downshifting... when you leave the car in gear when braking (vs. in neutral), the engine helps slowing the car down, and the brakes don't have to work as hard... that's what i was told and it seems that way too
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Old 04-16-2001, 08:23 PM   #13
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I also neutral it with my foot off the clutch. But here is something that will make your clutch life longer. I view the clutch as a finite entity with only so many repetitions. So when slowing to a stop that doesn't require a downshift, I match revs and forgo the clutch when I shift to neutral. Save a clutch rep every time I stop. Also, I like to try and up shift without clutching, but haven't done it on the WRX yet, but my Miata, I've got that down to a science.
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Old 04-16-2001, 09:26 PM   #14
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Yikes! I use my clutch all the time. I like to downshift as I come to a stop and use the engine to slow me down. ...but when I'm sitting at the light, it's always in neutral.

I guess my clutch will wear out sooner, but I guess my brakes won't hehehe
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Old 04-16-2001, 09:31 PM   #15
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Only problem is a brake job is cheaper than a tranny job. Let the brakes do their job, don't use your tranny to slow your car unless you need to down shift anyway.
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Old 04-16-2001, 10:14 PM   #16
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I hold my clutch in at the light for two reasons. First, if you're hit, rear ended, whatever, and your car careens out of control, it will go a lot further faster in neutral. Also, I like to be on point, all the time. When I'm at the light, or anywhere in my Sube, I'm on it. I'd like to upgrade my clutch anyway, wearing out would just give me a reason.
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Old 04-16-2001, 11:18 PM   #17
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I put it into neutral on the way to red lights, as much as possible, if not I leave it in whatever gear I'm in until I have to change.
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Old 04-16-2001, 11:30 PM   #18
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Those of us opting for dogboxes for our turbo EJ25 monsters will just have to live with holding the clutch in at the light, since you can't shift a dog box into first at rest.
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