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Old 03-10-2005, 08:47 PM   #1
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"glass" axles too? I just replaced my left front axle on my 02 WRX cuz on Saturday I started hearing the dreaded clicking sound when I took a tight left turn. I took the wheel off - boots were intact and looked fine.

Dealer replaced the whole 1/2 axle, not just the CV joint - he said that it can be caused by hard acceleration (which doesn't make a ton of sense really, since if your accelerating at a light your going straight, not turning). My car has "only" 65k miles on it. Now the fear is that I will have to drop another $500+ to do the right-side soon. Now I definitly don't drive it super hard, but I do enjoy taking it around curvy roads, and its only lightly modded - so not a lot of extra HP above stock.

Is this a common issue? Or just a fluke? I feel like I am now driving with a ticking time bomb that is ready to cost me lots more $$ or even possibly strand me someplace if the right fails completely.

Posted it here cuz teh OT has lots more traffic than anywhere else.
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Old 03-10-2005, 08:49 PM   #2
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Old 03-10-2005, 08:49 PM   #3
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Old 03-10-2005, 08:52 PM   #4
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Old 03-10-2005, 08:57 PM   #5
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^^ I'm axing a question.

Is this like a "known" problem that I should be concerned about... if it was a fluke, then it was an expensive fluke, but a fluke none the less. I was just espesially concerned cuz the left failed at 65K, but the right has the same number of miles... is ~65k the life of a CV joint?
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Old 03-10-2005, 08:58 PM   #6
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^^ I'm axing a question.

Is this like a "known" problem that I should be concerned about... if it was a fluke, then it was an expensive fluke, but a fluke none the less. I was just espesially concerned cuz the left failed at 65K, but the right has the same number of miles... is ~65k the life of a CV joint?
no but seriously the technical forum does get a lot of traffic.
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Old 03-10-2005, 08:59 PM   #7
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is ~65k the life of a CV joint?

definately not. i've seen them go around the 80-100k mark though.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:02 PM   #8
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Why do I keep reading magazine articles about Subie WRX and STi buildups where they add all kinds of horse power and do nothing to the tranny because they don't see the need?

Is the whole Subie "weak tranny" story an internet myth?
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:04 PM   #9
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Why do I keep reading magazine articles about Subie WRX and STi buildups where they add all kinds of horse power and do nothing to the tranny because they don't see the need?

Is the whole Subie "weak tranny" story an internet myth?
Its weakness is best exposed by a bad driver.

Haz, that is really expensive for an axle replacement, IIRC. I thought they were around $200/side maximum.

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Old 03-10-2005, 09:05 PM   #10
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Is the whole Subie "weak tranny" story an internet myth?
there are rumors on the internets about weak wrx transmissions, indeed.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:13 PM   #11
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Its weakness is best exposed by a bad driver.

Haz, that is really expensive for an axle replacement, IIRC. I thought they were around $200/side maximum.

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See, this one guy at work - that works on cars on the side figured about $300 for a CV joint at a regular garage. Now I don't know enough about these parts to know if replacing just the CV joint would have been cheaper or if it is just easier to replace the know darn axle. Ofcourse this being a dealership, I just knew it was going to be alteast $500.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:34 PM   #12
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A new WRX axle (half-shaft) costs $275 from subaruparts.com. 20 minutes might be a long time estimate for it. $500? Hosed. You can replace parts of the axle, but given the time it takes to do it, it's cheaper usually to just replace the whole axle. I'd call it a fluke.

There is a TSB about rear STI axles, because guys who like to launch them off the rev limiter started breaking them.
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Old 03-10-2005, 10:07 PM   #13
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A new WRX axle (half-shaft) costs $275 from subaruparts.com. 20 minutes might be a long time estimate for it. $500? Hosed. You can replace parts of the axle, but given the time it takes to do it, it's cheaper usually to just replace the whole axle. I'd call it a fluke.

There is a TSB about rear STI axles, because guys who like to launch them off the rev limiter started breaking them.
Have you ever actually replaced a half-shaft before? It's definitely NOT a 20 minute job. It's a PITA, but not anywhere near as bad as replacing just a CV joint itself.

Normally what kills CV joints early is by making full lock turns often. Maybe every day you leave your driveway you always turn full lock for a bit of a distance, or something of that nature? If so, stop it.
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Old 03-10-2005, 10:33 PM   #14
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Have you ever actually replaced a half-shaft before? It's definitely NOT a 20 minute job. It's a PITA, but not anywhere near as bad as replacing just a CV joint itself.

Normally what kills CV joints early is by making full lock turns often. Maybe every day you leave your driveway you always turn full lock for a bit of a distance, or something of that nature? If so, stop it.
Replace a WRX axle? Many times. You can replace a rear one in less than 5 minutes, the fronts don't take much longer.
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Old 03-11-2005, 12:18 AM   #15
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Replace a WRX axle? Many times. You can replace a rear one in less than 5 minutes, the fronts don't take much longer.
I've never replaced one on a WRX, but I've replaced one on a VW Scirocco and it sucked. I dunno why, but I just kind of figured all front axles are a bitch to replace.
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Old 03-11-2005, 12:47 AM   #16
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Old 03-11-2005, 01:04 AM   #17
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:22 AM   #18
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Yes, my car is lowered. This guy at work mentioned that a lowered car actually puts a little less stress on the CV joints - but more on the suspension bits. Not sure if that was accurate or not.
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:31 AM   #19
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I've got 3 very low mileage WRX front axels sitting in my basement.

Name your price plus shipping and their yours....
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Old 03-11-2005, 06:51 AM   #20
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well if you beat the piss out of your car things will need services. wait till you have to do the timing belt. after all its a subaru. if you drive a subaru you should try getting you rhands dirty! its expected at leas with older subarus

axle preak all day, i can change one off the side of the road in 10 minuttes with a handfull of tools. aty least with your model they fit on a splined spindle instead of being pressed thru the wheel bearings like the older ones.

i say go get a new axle for what, 150 bucks? order for a 90's model impreza it may be cheaper that way

go get a 19 mm wrench, a 17mm, a ball joint fork, a 3/16 punch ans a 34 mm socket, now you can do axles all day! and now you have almost all the tools you need to work on the whole car. (8,10, 12, 14mm) subarus are easy
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Old 03-11-2005, 08:20 AM   #21
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It could be when your turbo spooled up at 12 mph.
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Old 03-11-2005, 09:33 AM   #23
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yeah, $500=hosed. Learn to do it yourself, it's not particularly hard.
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Old 03-11-2005, 09:57 AM   #24
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A new WRX axle (half-shaft) costs $275 from subaruparts.com. 20 minutes might be a long time estimate for it. $500? Hosed. You can replace parts of the axle, but given the time it takes to do it, it's cheaper usually to just replace the whole axle. I'd call it a fluke.

There is a TSB about rear STI axles, because guys who like to launch them off the rev limiter started breaking them.
i launched at 4500rpms + on crappy track + didnt check [low] tire pressure = wheelhop = broken rear half shaft.

not at redline, but user error, definately. i didnt even ask about warranty replacement, i paid for my playing.

what does the TSB say?
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yeah, $500=hosed. Learn to do it yourself, it's not particularly hard.
i have done everything on my car except that rear half shaft...

...i was reading the service manual on how to do it and saw that it had some special tool in there to do it, and didnt know if i would get myself into a bigger mess if i tried to do it without the tool. now i know...if it happens again, ill just do it myself.

btw-i paid 700 for parts + labor for the rear halfshaft. i also have a distinct whining at 35 and 65 mph since they did the work. ah well.
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