Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Monday September 22, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
Canada Region Club
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Regional Areas > Canada Region Forum

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-19-2001, 10:30 PM   #1
Fred C
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2528
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: CANADA
Vehicle:
1996 IndyRed TSi AWD
('02 WRB WRXSedan - Sis')

Default Avoiding Brokerage Fees

Hi!

I heard that when ordering from the US Vendours, it is possible to avoid being charged crazy brokerage fees by a "3rd party brokerage company" by using USPS... but is that USPS Ground, or USPS Air? Or both? I heard that the same goes for FED-EX as well, but, again, is that FED-EX Ground, or Air? Or both? (I heard that UPS will hire a 3rd party brokerage company, whereas USPS and FED-EX will include it in their fees.) Can anyone clarify any of this for me?

Thanks!!

Fred C
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Fred C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2001, 11:26 PM   #2
Dom
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 3876
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Brampton,Ontario,canada
Default fees

Watch those fees and duty and taxes PST/GST
My first order from the US was a trunk mat $28 usd about $40 cdn
It came via UPS and a brokerage fee of 27.85+gst+pst= 44.32 cdn

Now I always get them to send via US post and if they can lower the value they declare or send it as warranty replacement!!
Dom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2001, 12:42 AM   #3
GTBGUY
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2003
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Vehicle:
'99 BGP Legacy GT
'98 QS Legacy L (auto)

Default

I've found that the fastest, cheapest way to ship from the US -> Canada is via DHL. That's what I use all the time.
GTBGUY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2001, 02:17 AM   #4
Fred C
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2528
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: CANADA
Vehicle:
1996 IndyRed TSi AWD
('02 WRB WRXSedan - Sis')

Default

Dom, US post is the same as USPS, right? Does it matter if they ship by Air or by Ground?

GTBGuy, what is "DHL"? Sounds like a hockey league.

Fred C
Fred C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2001, 09:08 AM   #5
Robin2
NASIOC Supporter
 
Member#: 390
Join Date: Oct 1999
Chapter/Region: E. Canada
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Vehicle:
2011 WRX sedan
Plasma Blue

Default

To avoid an duties, just have them ship it as warranty replacement....

What this does..... it represents a value of $0... so no tax or duties... as long as the company agrees to this...

Robin
Robin2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2001, 09:25 AM   #6
RageHardIntoTheBendies
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1532
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Wnnipeg, MB, Canada
Vehicle:
1999 RS, Silverthorn
www.zucru.com

Default

Umm you dont have to pay duty on personal auto parts, you do have to pay tax though. What i do is have my stuff shipped to a warehouse just south of the boarder and get the stuff myself, you will also save on shipping that way.
RageHardIntoTheBendies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2001, 09:40 AM   #7
harold4000
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 6518
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada
Default

USPS is the regular postal service - UPS is the courier service - I needed to clarify that for my sake...

I often find mail works better than courier services. It's cheaper and you can often avoid custom costs (which is simply GST and PST these days) if you use air mail. It's also pretty fast (less than 1 week). I once ordered a $400US camera from Honululu using air mail - the postage cost $10 US including insurance and I recieved it in less than 1 week, with no custom fees or brokerage charges.

Sometime air mail costs are too expensive. If the difference between air mail charges and ground mail charges is more than the PST and GST you would have to pay - you should stick with ground mail. Air mail makes the most sense for small expensive items.

Don't use UPS (the courier) ground - they will really ding you with brokerage fees - any money you save on delivery costs using ground transportation will be eaten up by brokerage costs. I am pretty sure that when you use UPS Air, brokerage fees are included in the delivery costs. I presume that it would be the same with other couriers, including DHL.

I just received a Car Cover from Subaru Parts using regular ground mail - It took less than a week to get here (Toronto) from the west coast (once it arrived in their store). In addition to the cost of the cover ($86US) I got dinged with PST and GST plus a $5 CDN handling charge for a total of $25 CDN.

You can purchase insurance for regular mail - the only problem is that you cannot trace the package as you would be able to with a courier.

Good Luck

Last edited by harold4000; 07-20-2001 at 09:56 AM.
harold4000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2001, 11:12 AM   #8
GTBGUY
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2003
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Vehicle:
'99 BGP Legacy GT
'98 QS Legacy L (auto)

Default

here's DHL's site :

www.dhl.com

Anyways, what Robin2 said can be done, but if you get "caught" you could be in trouble.


I've known some guys that tried this with something coming from the US via UPS and USPS... ended up still paying for some types of charges, mainly GST
GTBGUY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2001, 02:54 PM   #9
Fred C
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2528
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: CANADA
Vehicle:
1996 IndyRed TSi AWD
('02 WRB WRXSedan - Sis')

Default

Thanks for all the replies, guys!

Yeah, I'm willing to pay the taxes and duty, so I'm not worried about that; I'm just worried about crazy brokerage fees.

I'm actually ordering a Noah car-cover for my sisters' car from BigSkyCarCovers and they said that they've checked the shipping rates and it'll just be merely a $1USD difference between USPS Ground and Air... they said they tried to get the answer I needed about brokerage from USPS, but they kept saying that they just deliver the package to the border and that's their only job.

Anyway, harold4000, please check your PM!

Fred C
Fred C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2001, 02:59 PM   #10
Fred C
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2528
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: CANADA
Vehicle:
1996 IndyRed TSi AWD
('02 WRB WRXSedan - Sis')

Default

Actually, Harold, you don't have your PM activated. hehe. What I was gonna ask you is if USPS Air doesn't charge brokerage at all, and if what they quote includes everything to get the package to me in Western Canada and all I have to be paying is the taxes/duty incurred at the border. (And I'm assuming you're pretty sure of all this? )

Thanks!!

Fred C
Fred C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2001, 01:07 PM   #11
harold4000
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 6518
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada
Default

I didn't know I had to activate PM and I have not checked this forum for a while - so sorry for not replying earlier Fred.

As I mentioned I just received a package from Subaru Parts last week- a car cover - It was sent via US mail (USPS) - I just noticed that it "air mail" is stamped all over the box, even though I requested ground.

The cost of the order was $85.75 US, which Canada Customs converted as $132.26 Canadian. On this amount I was charged GTS of $9.26, Ontario PST of $10.58 and a handling fee of $5.00 - and that is all - now I don't know if the handling fee is a flat rate or if it is dependent on the cost of the order - you should check with Canada Customs on this.

In addition to the above - I used to buy a lot of books from US sellers on e-bay - the only time I was ever charged with any fees (customs, GST, PST) was when the value of the item approached or exceeded $80 to $100.00 - if it was less, they usually just let it through without charge - but there is no guarantee.

Good Luck
harold4000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2001, 01:14 PM   #12
Fred C
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2528
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: CANADA
Vehicle:
1996 IndyRed TSi AWD
('02 WRB WRXSedan - Sis')

Default

Hey, Harold, no worries. Thanks very much for the detailed reply!! I'm going to try USPS Air then. Thanks again!

Fred C
Fred C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2001, 03:44 AM   #13
damianq
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5380
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Edmonton
Vehicle:
1999 Impreza
Primer

Default

The handling fee of $5 is normal. I don't know what it is for but I have been paying it for over 10 years when ordering my bike parts from the US. I doesn't matter what size of box or package just $5/package. I assume that it is for them to process and then send out a mail notification note. But I still don't know why it is per package.
damianq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2001, 09:27 AM   #14
Keenan
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2277
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Vehicle:
2001 Impreza 2.5RS
Sedona Red Pearl

Default

Yeah, but the USPS/Canada Post charge is much cheaper than UPS. Aviod UPS if possible. A cheap alternative for in-Canada parcel shipment is Greyhound. I haven't used it for cross-border but its something to consider. Large items are actually pretty cheap to ship. My V5 wing came from Vancouver and only cost $26. I think that's pretty cheap anyway ...

Keenan
Keenan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2001, 05:19 AM   #15
damianq
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 5380
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Edmonton
Vehicle:
1999 Impreza
Primer

Default

Greyhound is a li'l known secret. If they have room they will ship just about anything. We once shipped a completely built race head to a fellow in Victoria from Edmonton. It got there in 28hours and only cost $45. Most of that was for the extra weight & insurance. Crossing borders is different. Be sure it is labelled "replacement/warranty" parts. Otherwise it will sit at the border longer than normal. Happened to us. Within Canada it's great.
damianq is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Duty and Brokerage Fees??????? Flexx999 Canada Region Forum 3 07-06-2004 01:16 PM
Import duty and brokerage fee Ricewagon Vancouver Impreza Club Forum -- VIC 3 05-06-2004 10:22 AM
Brokerage fees... Spooled Vancouver Impreza Club Forum -- VIC 7 10-25-2003 07:26 PM
avoiding brokerage fees? MixeD_MenacE Canada Region Forum 12 02-28-2002 08:15 PM
Holy Brokerage Fees! inzomniak Vancouver Impreza Club Forum -- VIC 8 10-16-2000 10:03 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.