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Old 03-12-2005, 12:04 AM   #1
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ok i have done a search and cannot find anything on this specific question: will the cobb CAI work on a 99 2.2L

heres a link to it:http://www.imprezars.com/cobbcai.htm#cobbcai

it says 2000-2004 but are the 2 years diff?
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Old 03-12-2005, 12:43 AM   #2
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Old 03-12-2005, 12:45 AM   #3
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oh, and also, if you are basically asking if the one in that link will work or not..just make sure your car has a MAP sensor, not a MAF (i think it has a MAP, but i could be wrong) if it has a MAP sensor, and the 02-04 ones do as well, the only thing i can conceive being a hinderance is routing and splicing vacuum lines.

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Old 03-12-2005, 12:51 AM   #4
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i think i have an MAF but im not positive...any way to find out indefinatly?
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Old 03-12-2005, 02:58 AM   #5
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um...it's 3AM and my searching skills are teh suck right now...basically, when you are looking at your stock airbox/intake assembely, you will see the main air box, where the filter is, to wards the lower left..following the intake tube towards the throttle body you either will or will not see a cylindrical plastoc object..it should bolt directly to the air box if you have one. a small wiring harness with a little clip attaches to this..that's the mass air flow sensor.

if one of those isn't there, and it's a basic tube all the way up the the throttle body, then you have a MAP sensor.
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Old 03-12-2005, 09:17 PM   #6
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well i cant see the wiring harness...but im also pretty retarded so i found this:

"GanzFlow cone filter air intake for Model Year 1999 Phase II motor (2.2 or 2.5), complete CONE/MAF kit from air plenum to filter"

according to this the 99 is MAF...im so confused
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Old 03-13-2005, 12:15 AM   #7
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Yes. you have a MAF. i was wrong, and i'm sorry.


here you go buddy:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179

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Old 03-13-2005, 12:33 AM   #8
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that is a pretty neat setup but one question... http://www.scoobymods.com/mods/impre...es/my99cai.jpg

look at that picture. the K&N filter is sitting on the inside of the fender?

well ok heres another question: could i leave the MAF and my panel filter in the big airbox as is and then just put on a pipe that runs into the fender place?

heres an extremely rough photoshop

ok the white airbrush is where i was thinking of running just a metal/plastic pipe into the fender where the nice cool air is.
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Old 03-13-2005, 01:56 AM   #9
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ok, heres a very good option for you. as far as i know you have the airbox which is in the lower left of the picture you have mentioned. what would be a very cool thing, would be to obtain an airbox frmo a newer MAP equipped impreza (the one you didn't air brush out--the one that says "replace filter with gasket) and put a K&N filter in that...then i would look into getting a Ganzflow type pipe (goes from the newer air box to the hole in the fender, supplying cooler air to the air box) and cut about 3-4" out of this pipe. this will enable you to use the better syled air box, with a decently nice intake set up, while still keeping the MAF sensor.

oh, and you will need a MAF adapter, i think they are like $10 on ebay.
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i made a picture to try to explain what i was saying. and yes i suck at photoshop. oh well.




OK. the engine is labelled engine. the new style airbox, with it's super awesome K&n filter is vertically above that *black box with red line*

the blue thing is a representation of what you could use as a Cold Air set up.

the dark grey thing dividing the blue "intake" would be your mass air flow sensor.
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ok im really sorry but that doesnt make sense to me. ok i have a K&N panel filter in the big black box towards the firewall (i think its called the air plenum). so could i: leave the air plenum alone, take off the plastic tubing from the plenum and run a pipe from the back of the plenum straight into the fender.

your way seems too complicated...getting an MAP (what does that stand for?) and still using the MAF? ahhhhhh i know far too little about this...
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Old 03-13-2005, 09:09 AM   #12
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ok im really sorry but that doesnt make sense to me. ok i have a K&N panel filter in the big black box towards the firewall (i think its called the air plenum). so could i: leave the air plenum alone, take off the plastic tubing from the plenum and run a pipe from the back of the plenum straight into the fender.

your way seems too complicated...getting an MAP (what does that stand for?) and still using the MAF? ahhhhhh i know far too little about this...

svek,
Yes, you can do what you stated. People refer to what you are talking about as 'cutting the snorkus'. The snorkus is the part that's in the fenderwell area and is connected to your stock air filter box. Cut it and attach some aluminum ducting from there to a cool place in front of your car. That will work fine.

What rabitnutz is referring to is another setup some stock 2.5RSs have. You see, some of them have the stock air filter located exactly where his diagram shows. The air filter and air filter housing is mounted right on the throttle body. It seems your setup is not like this so don't worry about it.

Don't be stuck on a Cobb setup. For the life of me, I do not know why it takes so long for a 'Cobb maf' setup to be developed. You don't need a Cobb air filter. You could use an air filter connected to your maf sensor directly and have it mounted in your engine bay. Despite the arguments about the cone air filter sucking in hot engine bay air, my experience using a cone filter does't reflect that (except off idle after sitting idle for a bit).

Experiment some and have fun. You guys better not make me whip out that Ebay intake dyno run again.
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ok so i think im going to do the "cutting the snorkus" method. is this comparable to other CAI kits that cost a lot of money? is it better?

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should i run no filter on the end of the pipe and leave the K&N in the plenum?
or should i take out my K&N and just put a filter on the end of the pipe?
or should i have 2 filters?

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Old 03-13-2005, 04:46 PM   #14
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Ok. i busted out the video camera today and took some *****y quality pics to try to help you out. both of the vehicles are MY98 vehicles.

this is my L. It has a 2.2 engine, and as you can see, an aftermarket intake. (weapon R)


this is a close up on the autozone filter directly clamped to my MAF(Mass Air Flow) adapter.



this is what your intake looks like. (stock)


this is a pic of how your MAF directly bolts to your airbox.


now, the pictures that were draw/edited/ and posted from scooby mods have an airbox that directly attaches to the throttle body, which i believ comes on the 00-01 impreza's, which have a MAP sensor (sort of like a mass air flow sensor inside the throttle body).

so, you can either make a set-up similar to what i have going, or, you can purchase a newer style air box, and run somethign to my little illustration.

it's completely up to you.

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this is what your intake looks like. (stock)

thats not what mine looks like stock...
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ok, so the newer style airbox's are on 99-01 cars, my mistake, sorry.

you're stock instake basically looks like this ?


i've been told some of the best intakes for these style airbox's retain the stock airbox, and have a panel filter inside them....

check this thread out on scoobymods... http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...anzflow+intake

you could do the same thing, getting cold air to you're airbox, but somewhere within that straight pipe, you would have to have your MAF sensor.(with adapter)

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thats not what it looks like either...god i wish i had a digi cam...and o yah get on aim
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Old 03-19-2005, 09:03 AM   #18
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Anyway, yes the cobb intake for the 99 RS will work with your car or it should because they are both MAF based. It will not work with the 98 MAF, but I just talked to them today. 99 l and rs have same MAF. If you read the faq it says it there also. Give cobb a call and find out for sure.
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well thanks to my bro rabitznuts i built my own a few days ago but ty for the research
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