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Old 03-17-2005, 05:01 PM   #1
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Default Changing wheels & tires project. Plz Plz help out. (around $1000 budget)

I've budgeted around $1000 for this project. I cannot help but change my stock wheels & tires.

I am thinking between 17"X7.5" and 17"X8" (I'm also curious 8" width is fit for wagon.)
My major purpose of changing is for looking not for performence.
I have $1000 for this but I can use a little MO MONEY if necessary.

Please Please give me any idea and any advice for me. I'm unfamiliar with those kind of information.
please recommend me if you know any good shop. (better price)

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Old 03-17-2005, 05:14 PM   #2
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$1000 is not much to work with, unless you skip out on either tires or the wheels. Usually you can find some good looking 17's or 18's with just ok tires for like $1400. You should start looking for used stuff if $1K is your budget. And I think the widths that you want will cause rubbing/fitment issues. You may need to roll your fenders since you got a wagon
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Old 03-17-2005, 05:16 PM   #3
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do you know what style youd want, color? new/used? do you care how good of tires? cuz thats the most important. for performance of course...

i would just start you off looking at some Rota's, since they are knockoffs of other popular brands, so you could kinda see what style and color you'd want. they run about $650 shipped and tires can go for about $80-100 each if you arent looking at max perf tires. that should put you right in the ~$1000 range. check out www.subydude.com for Rota's. just click on 'store' and then 'wheels'
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Old 03-17-2005, 05:18 PM   #4
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$1000 is not much to work with, unless you skip out on either tires or the wheels. Usually you can find some good looking 17's or 18's with just ok tires for like $1400. You should start looking for used stuff if $1K is your budget. And I think the widths that you want will cause rubbing/fitment issues. You may need to roll your fenders since you got a wagon
he could find something for less than $1100 if he went with rota and a crap tire. he did mention performance wasnt really his main goal. and if he went with any 7.5" wide et48 wheel with 215-45-17 or 215-40-18 you wont really rub. unless you got, like, hoosiers or something. but yeah an 8inch wide wheels on the wagon is pushing it.
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Old 03-17-2005, 05:28 PM   #5
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he could find something for less than $1100 if he went with rota and a crap tire.
crap tires thats pretty blunt
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Old 03-17-2005, 05:33 PM   #6
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crap tires thats pretty blunt

crap tires..........
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Old 03-17-2005, 05:41 PM   #7
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since you're in the bay area, check craigslist if you want to go used
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Old 03-17-2005, 05:43 PM   #8
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crap tires..........
actually you can get pretty good tires at $100 a piece --> http://www.edgeracing.com/tires/2254517/

consider the Falken ST115 and Falken FK451, very good tires for the money.
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Old 03-17-2005, 05:43 PM   #9
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since you're in the bay area, check craigslist if you want to go used
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Old 03-17-2005, 05:44 PM   #10
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$1000 is not much to work with, unless you skip out on either tires or the wheels. Usually you can find some good looking 17's or 18's with just ok tires for like $1400. You should start looking for used stuff if $1K is your budget. And I think the widths that you want will cause rubbing/fitment issues. You may need to roll your fenders since you got a wagon

Used wheels should be OK but not for tires.
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Old 03-17-2005, 07:04 PM   #11
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I bought a set of 17X7 Roja Formula 5 wheels on ebay (no reserve auction) for just over $400 shipped to my door. I believe the store (Detail-Works) still has some for auction. They are one piece forged wheels weighing in at about 15.5 lbs each. My local tire company just mounted (today!) a set of 225-45-17 Nitto Neo Gens for $400 for the set. So........That's just over $800 for quality forged wheels ($380 each list price) and some really great tires. I have only driven about 30 miles on them so far, but after peeling my cheek off my driver's side door glass after a nice off ramp I say I like them. There are options out there - just do some homework and find a deal!
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Old 03-30-2005, 06:22 PM   #12
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I bought a set of 17X7 Roja Formula 5 wheels on ebay (no reserve auction) for just over $400 shipped to my door. I believe the store (Detail-Works) still has some for auction. They are one piece forged wheels weighing in at about 15.5 lbs each. My local tire company just mounted (today!) a set of 225-45-17 Nitto Neo Gens for $400 for the set. So........That's just over $800 for quality forged wheels ($380 each list price) and some really great tires. I have only driven about 30 miles on them so far, but after peeling my cheek off my driver's side door glass after a nice off ramp I say I like them. There are options out there - just do some homework and find a deal!
Please post some pics!!! Is your WRX lowered (if lowered, any rubbing issues)?
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Old 03-30-2005, 06:27 PM   #13
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sell your stockers for like $350 and then look in the classifieds
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Old 03-30-2005, 06:29 PM   #14
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Please post some pics!!! Is your WRX lowered (if lowered, any rubbing issues)?
You're never gonna have any rubbing issues with a 17x7 225/45. I run 17x8 +48 225/45 on mine right now and have never even gotten close to rubbing.

If we're talking a 17x9.5 255/40 then yeah maybe

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Old 03-30-2005, 06:33 PM   #15
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You're never gonna have any rubbing issues with a 17x7 225/45. I run 17x8 +48 225/45 on mine right now and have never even gotten close to rubbing.

If we're talking a 17x9.5 255/40 then yeah maybe

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so 42 offset with 17x7 in 225/45 is NEVER gonna have any issues? sounds good!

how about 42 offset with 18x7 with 225/45? Thanks!
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so 42 offset with 17x7 in 225/45 is NEVER gonna have any issues? sounds good!

how about 42 offset with 18x7 with 225/45? Thanks!
+42 offset should still be OK. I think my first Enkeis were 17x7 +42 and I ran 225/45s on them no problem.

For 18 you're probably going to want to go with 225/40 since that would be exactly the same as the stock overall diameter (stock is 25.1 inches, 225/40R18 is ~25.1 inches +/- .5" depending on brand and make of tire). /45 might be a touch too tall. Changing your overall diameter won't really affect much other than your speedo though, so as long as you don't mind your speedo being inaccurate than you should be OK.

Edit: Oops, my first set of Enkeis were also +48. But +42 shouldn't be a problem.

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Old 03-30-2005, 06:57 PM   #17
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I would like to make up for the 18's "harshness" with a little more cushion, perhaps by going with 225/45's (I will actually be going FASTAR than what the speedo's reading, also putting less mileage on the odometer )... I'm thinkin about it


**cinemaster---didn't mean to jack your thread...my apologies...
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I'm not sure how much bigger than the /40s the /45s would be but I can't imagine it'd be too much bigger. Inch or two at the most. But that's a biiig change in your speedo.

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You're never gonna have any rubbing issues with a 17x7 225/45. I run 17x8 +48 225/45 on mine right now and have never even gotten close to rubbing.
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He is in a wagon, he might rub with that combo. If you go with a +48 offset, use a 215 tire to be safe. 225 might rub, might not, depends on the brand of tire and other minor factors.

Legacy GT wheels are getting cheaper, they are 17 X 7 and have a 55 offset. Perfect for 215 45 17 tires. Pick up set used and put some Toyo Proxes 4 on them and you will be set for about a grand.

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On 18x7.5, what would be the best size tire to use? What diameter works without having rubbing issues? I've heard different answers from different people on what width and diameter make for the best combo
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He is in a wagon, he might rub with that combo. If you go with a +48 offset, use a 215 tire to be safe. 225 might rub, might not, depends on the brand of tire and other minor factors.

Legacy GT wheels are getting cheaper, they are 17 X 7 and have a 55 offset. Perfect for 215 45 17 tires. Pick up set used and put some Toyo Proxes 4 on them and you will be set for about a grand.

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Ah yeah I forget wagons are different monsters all togeather.

18x7.5 you could go for a 225/40R18. That has the same overall diameter as the stock and isn't wide enough to cause rubbing. Would probably be your best bet.

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Here is your answer:

Get four of these:

MB Motorsports Weapon 17x8 46mm offset $112.00

And get four of these:

Falken FK-451 225/45-17 $94.00

Total price: approximately $925 or less mounted, balanced, shipped. You even have more room money wise to look at getting a 235/40-17 or 245/40-17. If you prefer you can get those wheels in 17x7 48mm offset for $106/ea.

Good luck searching!
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Old 03-30-2005, 09:45 PM   #23
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Get Rotas, maybe you can find some cheap used tires. I ended up getting a set of stock STI tires (RE70's) with 300mi on them for $400.
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How about used wheels and new tires?
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I'd say get some rota's and falken 451's...should be right around 1k
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