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Old 07-20-2001, 04:47 PM   #1
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Unhappy Forester or WRX?

My 85 Accord died, and I'm shopping. Thought I was gonna get the Forester or the Outback Sport, but test drove the WRX just for kicks last night. The salesguy said, "Are you sure you wanna do this? It'll just confuse you even more." And...ahem...well...you know the rest. I've always viewed cars as simple tools to get me from point A to B. Never been into high performance etc. But perhaps that's because I'd never driven one....Anyway, I'm looking for something that can handle snow, pothholed dirt, carry bikes, kayaks, etc. Looking for an adventure mobile more than a sports car. Both the WRX Sport and the Forester S Premium seems to do that description justice, and are about the same price. If you could only have one, which would it be?

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Old 07-20-2001, 05:04 PM   #2
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Two quick questions:

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2) Your age?
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Old 07-20-2001, 05:12 PM   #3
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I guess I really dont need answers

If you want an auto I waould go with the Forester S+ dam sweet ride I had one and loved it, the wrx wagon is kinda boggy with the auto, unless you flog the car.
That brings me to my second question if your older and not really into beating cars you really wont need the extra power of the WRX. Why have the extra power of the WRX if your not going to use it. The 2.5l is a real nice engine and suits the Forester well, pleanty of get up and go power. Also if you have kids that are going to be getting or have just gotten their liscences the Forester will probably be the better bet. I would guarantee they would push your WRX wagon and that could have bad results for a young driver.
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Old 07-20-2001, 05:29 PM   #4
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Thanks for the comments so far!

To clarify, I'm 33, single, no kids, and looking for a vehicle I'll still be happy with 5-10 years from now, no matter where I live.

Mike

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Old 07-20-2001, 05:30 PM   #5
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Oh--and manual, I think. Unless there are compelling arguments for an automatic aside from the "I'm done with shifting" one.
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Old 07-21-2001, 12:24 PM   #6
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Endure, Hmmmm I think that you have Forester closet envy syndrome. FCES or feces as some call it. just kidding. Moderators please don't lock this thread. I find that I like having a forester for what I do (good adventuremobile) but, on the other hand I so wish I had a play car. I am constantly reminded though that if I had a WRX I sure wouldn't be hauling all the stuff I do with it. Both are wonderful cars but, if you want something that is a little bit more practical, yet still sporty then go with the Forester. The WRX wagon is not a bad idea too but, I think for a vehicle that you can abuse more and not worry about as much (even though I do about mine) I'd pick the Forester. It's more of an adventuremobile. Not hating on the WRX just my .02.
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Old 07-21-2001, 12:43 PM   #7
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I second ferretboy. I have real WRX wagon envy these days - would love one in black w/17" P1 wheels in anthracite - but for all the driving fun I don't think I'd ever feel comfortable with throwing things into and on top of the WRX as I do with the Forester. On top of that I do so much driving in heavy commuting traffic, plus have bad knees, that I have a slushbox. An automatic WRX loses something in the driving experience (so I'm told - I haven't driven one yet!) and gains the derision of all the macho men who wouldn't be caught dead not pulling their own sticks. Not that I'd let the latter deter my purchase, mind you; I didn't buy a Subaru to please anyone but myself.

There's the WRX's premium unleaded requirement to think of too. Then again, an additional $1.50-1.60 a tankful is probably worth the 62 extra hp of fun.

My Forester mods have been minimal, but I'm saving my lunch money for a nice catback exhaust - kinda like ferretboy's...

Good luck with the choice - you can't really go wrong either way.

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Old 07-21-2001, 04:40 PM   #8
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Thumbs up ...I believe the decision is made, lol

Endure-- "Looking for an adventure mobile more than a sports car." ...when making that statement, I agree, I think the Forester is better suited to your needs. The WRX wagon, although considered a wagon, IMO, is still a "sports car" because of its performance numbers. Like you, I'm not into the high performance numbers as much as I'm into handling and practical drivability (whatever that means, lol). I too looked at (and drooled over ) the WRX wagon but in the end, I was looking for more of a utility vehcile than a sports car. I currently am waiting for a Forester S+ (5-speed manual) that's supposedly coming into dealer stock (although I haven't heard from them in 2 wks ). I'm a little worried that the Forester is not quite big enough for what I'm intending to use it for but I'm going to take the chance anyway for it fulfills most of the needs I have in mind ...one of the most important is economical operation. As Ed mentioned about the fuel requirement, I wanted something that doesn't require or recommend premium fuel along with the ability of getting above 20 mpg in everyday driving. That requirement eliminated most mid-size SUV's with their 6-cylinder engines (even though a mid-size SUV is the size I would prefer). The car I'm now driving requires premium fuel so i didn't want 2 vehicles that I had to put the more expensive juice in . The Forester is replacing an older model Toyota 4Runner which served all my needs perfectly --it was the most reliable, economical and trouble-free vehicle I've ever owned and I'm hoping that the Forester can live up to the challenge!

I notice you're in Seattle. I'm over in Redmond. Are you dealing with Carter? ...getting a good deal? If you don't mind, I'm going to try to "pm" you to confer about "reasonable" pricing in our area.

Good luck!

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Old 07-21-2001, 10:27 PM   #9
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Here comes my $00.02...

Personally, I am dealing with SERIOUS WRX Wagon envy... I saw one today in that Ralley Blue and, UggH! I mean, sheesh, if you check out the pics on my website, you'll see that I've done everything I can afford to get my Forester driving like a WRX already... minus the turbo. I was planning it, but then the MAF problems with turboing a '99 and the premium gas requirement turned me off.

don't get me wrong, the Forester is alot of fun. Actually, I feel for you, since I totally understand your dilema. I mean, as much as I like and want them , I haven't traded in the Forester. Although, I'm no where near as worried about it getting stolen as I once was, since it IS insured. Good luck in the choice. I know its a tough one. It definately has more cargo space than the WRX...

Oh, and, guys... I doub't you would have any more problem tossing suff in or on your WRX wagon than you do your Forester now, once the STi models hit next year. Then THOSE will be the holy grail.
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Old 07-22-2001, 05:54 AM   #10
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WRX Wagon!! DO it! You wont regret it!!!
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Old 07-23-2001, 12:29 AM   #11
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Heck get the WRX wagon youll realize that you like the power.
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Old 07-23-2001, 09:05 AM   #12
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Basically, it's 227 horses

vs.

more room, heated seats, huge moonroof, more ground clearance, roof rails and cross bars, lower insurance rates, and cheaper gas.

Obviously, you should get the 227 horses!

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Old 07-23-2001, 03:03 PM   #13
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OK, I have to reply to this one because I have solved this problem. I own a 99 Forester S which my wife drives and I drive an 02 WRX Sedan. I have the best of all worlds I think. BUT, if I were going to get ONE or the OTHER it would be a WRX wagon. No, it is not quite as big or spacious as a Forester, but it has almost everything else. It is small and light enough to be quick, looks nicer than the WRX sedan IMHO and has a smaller greenhouse than the Forester so it looks a little bit more like a car and a little less like an SUV.

I would be lying to you though if I didnt say that the Forester is our main car. I have 2 kids and 2 dogs and we love the room in the Forester, especially the height. Plus, with my WRX rims on the Forester now, it looks a little bit like a Rex now anyway.

Either way you cant go wrong. They are both awesome cars, the REX is just a little quicker.

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Old 07-23-2001, 05:08 PM   #14
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You lucky dog, you! A Forester and a WRX? Cool.

How big a difference in low end torque is there between the two?

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Old 07-23-2001, 06:52 PM   #15
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Once I got used to driving my 5spd WRX wagon I can say that there is not much difference (low end torque) compared to my old auto 98S (wifes Forester now).
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Old 07-23-2001, 09:10 PM   #16
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Well…I drove the OB Sport again yesterday, and found it fun but way too cheap material-wise on the inside. The WRX would have fixed that (love those seats...and the power). But...I did the sensible thing...and bought a Forester.

Love it so far, in spite of the fact that it looks a bit like a housewifemobile. Nothing a bunch of dirt, some dents, a bike rack, and some stickers can’t fix....Someone should really market an aerosol spray called "Dirt in a Can" or something....

Got a nice deal, everyone is happy. Now I'll be counting stars through my moonroof instead of speeding tickets. And someday I suspect I'll buy a second vehicle....

Thanks for all your comments. Obviously it's a common dilemma.

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Old 07-24-2001, 03:45 AM   #17
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Old 07-24-2001, 11:03 AM   #18
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Mine has tinted windows and fender flares (to accomodate wider tires with a different offset), and think those two things combine to make it look more rugged.

Congrats. Enjoy your Forester.

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Old 07-24-2001, 02:24 PM   #19
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Alright! Another proud Forester owner! Congratulations on your purchase. I'm sure you'll be happy with your choice.

My 98 S has been great for my MTB, snowboarding, camping and just driving around the country side trips. It's enough space for me, my wife and lots of cargo.

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Old 07-24-2001, 10:08 PM   #20
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dirt in a can??
thats no fun! half the reason you buy a subaru is to have fun making it dirty :P

congrats on your new purchase, im sure you wont be disappointed.
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Old 07-24-2001, 11:03 PM   #21
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Hey Pikeadon:

What's Age got to do with it????


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