intakes

boscal45 · 03-21-2005, 01:03 AM

i spent the last hour or so looking through the cai for n/a scoobies thread. i was considering getting a weapon r dragon intake, until everything i read about them said that the dragon filter sucks. what i do like about the dragon intake is that it is fairly cheap (135 with shipping) and they make them to fit specific models so i wouldnt have to worry about it fitting in my 99 impreza L. are the filter sizes universal so that if i do not like the dragon filter, i can just get another filter to replace rather then replacing the entire intake? and if that is the case, does the increased performance come from just the filter (meaning, would the $135 weapon r intake with a better filter be better then a $50 intake with a good filter or would it basically be the same thing?) thank you pete

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svek · 03-21-2005, 01:07 AM

hey i have a 99 L myself and i spent a lot of time looking this up. your best bet is: ganzflow. plain and simple. i am a cheap bastard so i ended up making my own. its quite easy but i really cant feel the power. so i say spend the $150 for a ganzflow.

Uncle Scotty · 03-21-2005, 01:15 AM

Search/browse the NA forum....NA and FI..forced induction are 2 different ballgames...

Sober_One · 03-23-2005, 06:06 PM

The best intake for a N/A Subaru is made by COBB.

Hands Down, No Questions Asked, The Best There IS!!!!

You can find it at their WebPages... cobbtuning.com

svek · 03-23-2005, 06:12 PM

but we dont exactly know if the cobb fits a 99L. the whole maf thing.

Big_Hitter · 03-23-2005, 08:45 PM

sure it does!

it fit my 99 forester - get one!

Quote:

Originally Posted by svek

but we dont exactly know if the cobb fits a 99L. the whole maf thing.

cabe · 03-23-2005, 09:22 PM

HAHAHA, the dragon filter does suck. I had the weapon r with dragon filter when I had a 99 impreza L. It looks so ricey I was embarrassed to pop my hood (except for little kids, LOL). It still sounded cool and I could feel a difference, but don't get one, get something better.

allsubaru83 · 03-24-2005, 01:17 AM

I have the rallitek intake, yeah it is for a 02 impreza with a MAP and i have a MAF, only difference is the intake tube is longer. but fits really snug under the hood

gtwagon941 · 03-24-2005, 01:29 AM

Do you have a MAF in there somewhere?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philistine

sure it does!

it fit my 99 forester - get one!

mtskibum16 · 03-24-2005, 02:22 AM

If you follow the pipe from the throttle body you will see the MAF section....it is the first black portion from the TB.

Imprezanize · 03-24-2005, 04:58 AM

I got COBB CAI no regrets

Big_Hitter · 03-24-2005, 08:20 AM

yep, second black thing

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtwagon941

Do you have a MAF in there somewhere?

InsaneAznKid · 03-24-2005, 08:30 AM

i thought cobb CAI was only for MAP?

jeisen · 03-24-2005, 09:31 AM

i also am running cobb. if ur going to spend the money on an intake and are worried about performance and not sound, u gotta go with the cobb.

http://cobbtuning.com/impreza/powerpackage1.html#cai

Big_Hitter · 03-24-2005, 10:30 AM

negative

Quote:

Originally Posted by InsaneAznKid

i thought cobb CAI was only for MAP?

RS_to_WRX_swap · 03-24-2005, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sober_One

The best intake for a N/A Subaru is made by COBB.

Hands Down, No Questions Asked, The Best There IS!!!!

You can find it at their WebPages... cobbtuning.com

So did you do a dyno test?

keirnna · 03-25-2005, 04:01 AM

Cobb makes two CAI. One for MAF which should work on '99 RS's and all other subies with the same intake set-up, ie Impreza L's, and Foresters. What I want to know is why I can't use the intake on my 1998 RS. I don't see what the difference is. Both use MAF, but I am sure it will work.

Sober_One · 03-28-2005, 10:15 PM

[quote] Quote:
Originally Posted by Sober_One
The best intake for a N/A Subaru is made by COBB.

Hands Down, No Questions Asked, The Best There IS!!!!

You can find it at their WebPages... cobbtuning.com

So did you do a dyno test?QUOTE]

No I haven't...
However, I've been researching intakes for MY00RS for years. I've read many and cliped many articles on the various intakes, with their pros and cons. Forums and review type webpages as well as other sources have been used for information gathering. Cost was in there at the end.

By the documentation available, by both owners and the manufactures and by customer satisfaction I believe COBB is the best intake for a N/A Subaru.

A close second would be the Larry Ganz GanzFlow Cold Air Intake with a K&N or other type drop in filter.

Why?... Because both systems keep "user-friendly" maintenance in mind, reduced turbulence, better airflow, and exacting fit. No other companies offer a solid CAI and the other features mentioned.

BTW, according to some the stock air box and intake system aren't as bad as others may lead you to believe.

Sober_One · 03-29-2005, 07:35 AM

Here is a link to a good description and other information on the GANZFLOW
http://www.imprezars.com/ganzflowintake.htm

RallySuby · 03-29-2005, 07:39 PM

jeisen,
i'm also stuck between larry's and cobbs. any sound difference??? i know larry's uses the stock airbox, would this make it quieter??

Siper2 · 03-29-2005, 07:46 PM

Popular opinion leans towards Cobb for sure, but if money's tight you can pick up a PDM CAI from www.pdm-racing.com . (Click on "Subaru Corner" on the site to see it.)

They're $50 brand new and are an easy alternative to making your own. They're very similar to the first-generation GanzFlow (by Larry Ganz) CAIs, though the new Ganz CAIs are of a different shape.

I have a PDM. I like that it retains the OE airbox, but then again I'm one of the skeptical sorts, so the "water suck" thing, even if unrealistic, does keep me on my toes a bit.

=S2=

goNads · 03-29-2005, 07:46 PM

it (Ganz) will be MUCH quiter than the COBB...

RS_to_WRX_swap · 03-29-2005, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siper2

Popular opinion leans towards Cobb for sure, but if money's tight you can pick up a PDM CAI from www.pdm-racing.com . (Click on "Subaru Corner" on the site to see it.)

They're $50 brand new and are an easy alternative to making your own. They're very similar to the first-generation GanzFlow (by Larry Ganz) CAIs, though the new Ganz CAIs are of a different shape.

I have a PDM. I like that it retains the OE airbox, but then again I'm one of the skeptical sorts, so the "water suck" thing, even if unrealistic, does keep me on my toes a bit.

=S2=

The stock intake is just as likly to ingest water as the ganz style, if not more.

Unless you do this you will be ok:

svek · 03-29-2005, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS_to_WRX_swap

The stock intake is just as likly to ingest water as the ganz style, if not more.

Unless you do this you will be ok:

howcome? isnt the snorkus supposed to keep water out/?

RS_to_WRX_swap · 03-29-2005, 10:37 PM

True, but I was talking about the location of the beginning of the intake. Brands like Injen place the filter to low, so that in areas like where I live and it rains all the time; the filter is too near the ground. It’s kind of pointless on an AWD car to be scared of puddles.

03-21-2005, 01:03 AM	#1
boscal45 Scooby Newbie Member#: 79190 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Iowa Vehicle: 1999 Impreza L silver	intakes i spent the last hour or so looking through the cai for n/a scoobies thread. i was considering getting a weapon r dragon intake, until everything i read about them said that the dragon filter sucks. what i do like about the dragon intake is that it is fairly cheap (135 with shipping) and they make them to fit specific models so i wouldnt have to worry about it fitting in my 99 impreza L. are the filter sizes universal so that if i do not like the dragon filter, i can just get another filter to replace rather then replacing the entire intake? and if that is the case, does the increased performance come from just the filter (meaning, would the $135 weapon r intake with a better filter be better then a $50 intake with a good filter or would it basically be the same thing?) thank you pete * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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03-21-2005, 01:07 AM	#2
svek * Banned * Member#: 82259 Join Date: Mar 2005 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: koledge at csus Vehicle: 1999 impreza 2.2L Brilliant Red <4EAT Club>	hey i have a 99 L myself and i spent a lot of time looking this up. your best bet is: ganzflow. plain and simple. i am a cheap bastard so i ended up making my own. its quite easy but i really cant feel the power. so i say spend the $150 for a ganzflow.

03-21-2005, 01:15 AM	#3
Uncle Scotty NASIOC Supporter Member#: 16200 Join Date: Mar 2002 Vehicle: OK Houston we have an Uncle	Search/browse the NA forum....NA and FI..forced induction are 2 different ballgames...

03-23-2005, 06:06 PM	#4
Sober_One Scooby Newbie Member#: 83322 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Vehicle: 2000 Impreza 2.5RS Sylverthorn	The best intake for a N/A Subaru is made by COBB. Hands Down, No Questions Asked, The Best There IS!!!! You can find it at their WebPages... cobbtuning.com

03-23-2005, 06:12 PM	#5
svek * Banned * Member#: 82259 Join Date: Mar 2005 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: koledge at csus Vehicle: 1999 impreza 2.2L Brilliant Red <4EAT Club>	but we dont exactly know if the cobb fits a 99L. the whole maf thing.

03-23-2005, 09:22 PM	#7
cabe Scooby Specialist Member#: 55864 Join Date: Feb 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: williamsport,PA Vehicle: 2002 WRX sedan PSM	HAHAHA, the dragon filter does suck. I had the weapon r with dragon filter when I had a 99 impreza L. It looks so ricey I was embarrassed to pop my hood (except for little kids, LOL). It still sounded cool and I could feel a difference, but don't get one, get something better.

03-24-2005, 01:17 AM	#8
allsubaru83 Scooby Specialist Member#: 60122 Join Date: Apr 2004 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Tacoma Vehicle: 2008 M5 Space Grey	I have the rallitek intake, yeah it is for a 02 impreza with a MAP and i have a MAF, only difference is the intake tube is longer. but fits really snug under the hood

03-24-2005, 02:22 AM	#10
mtskibum16 Scooby Newbie Member#: 83708 Join Date: Mar 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Kitsap Peninsula, WA Vehicle: 2005 FXT CGM	If you follow the pipe from the throttle body you will see the MAF section....it is the first black portion from the TB.

03-24-2005, 04:58 AM	#11
Imprezanize Scooby Newbie Member#: 45273 Join Date: Oct 2003 Vehicle: 2002 Impreza 2.5 RS Aspen White	I got COBB CAI no regrets

03-24-2005, 08:30 AM	#13
InsaneAznKid Scooby Specialist Member#: 57037 Join Date: Mar 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Omaha, Nebraska Vehicle: 1998 Audi A4 1.8T Pearl White	i thought cobb CAI was only for MAP?

03-24-2005, 09:31 AM	#14
jeisen Scooby Specialist Member#: 27258 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Towaco, NJ Vehicle: who dat be dat was?	i also am running cobb. if ur going to spend the money on an intake and are worried about performance and not sound, u gotta go with the cobb. http://cobbtuning.com/impreza/powerpackage1.html#cai

03-25-2005, 04:01 AM	#17
keirnna Scooby Specialist Member#: 50167 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: From Indiana, Living in Japan Vehicle: 1996 Subaru STI RA White	Cobb makes two CAI. One for MAF which should work on '99 RS's and all other subies with the same intake set-up, ie Impreza L's, and Foresters. What I want to know is why I can't use the intake on my 1998 RS. I don't see what the difference is. Both use MAF, but I am sure it will work.

03-28-2005, 10:15 PM	#18
Sober_One Scooby Newbie Member#: 83322 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Vehicle: 2000 Impreza 2.5RS Sylverthorn	[quote] Quote: Originally Posted by Sober_One The best intake for a N/A Subaru is made by COBB. Hands Down, No Questions Asked, The Best There IS!!!! You can find it at their WebPages... cobbtuning.com So did you do a dyno test?QUOTE] No I haven't... However, I've been researching intakes for MY00RS for years. I've read many and cliped many articles on the various intakes, with their pros and cons. Forums and review type webpages as well as other sources have been used for information gathering. Cost was in there at the end. By the documentation available, by both owners and the manufactures and by customer satisfaction I believe COBB is the best intake for a N/A Subaru. A close second would be the Larry Ganz GanzFlow Cold Air Intake with a K&N or other type drop in filter. Why?... Because both systems keep "user-friendly" maintenance in mind, reduced turbulence, better airflow, and exacting fit. No other companies offer a solid CAI and the other features mentioned. BTW, according to some the stock air box and intake system aren't as bad as others may lead you to believe.

03-29-2005, 07:35 AM	#19
Sober_One Scooby Newbie Member#: 83322 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Vehicle: 2000 Impreza 2.5RS Sylverthorn	Here is a link to a good description and other information on the GANZFLOW http://www.imprezars.com/ganzflowintake.htm

03-29-2005, 07:39 PM	#20
RallySuby Scooby Newbie Member#: 64600 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Vehicle: '01 2.5RS black	jeisen, i'm also stuck between larry's and cobbs. any sound difference??? i know larry's uses the stock airbox, would this make it quieter??

03-29-2005, 07:46 PM	#21
Siper2 Scooby Guru Member#: 1134 Join Date: Mar 2000 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Dillsburg, PA Vehicle: 2007 BMW 328xi wagon Silver	Popular opinion leans towards Cobb for sure, but if money's tight you can pick up a PDM CAI from www.pdm-racing.com . (Click on "Subaru Corner" on the site to see it.) They're $50 brand new and are an easy alternative to making your own. They're very similar to the first-generation GanzFlow (by Larry Ganz) CAIs, though the new Ganz CAIs are of a different shape. I have a PDM. I like that it retains the OE airbox, but then again I'm one of the skeptical sorts, so the "water suck" thing, even if unrealistic, does keep me on my toes a bit. =S2=

03-29-2005, 07:46 PM	#22
goNads Scooby Newbie Member#: 61888 Join Date: May 2004 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Gabriel, CA Vehicle: 2003 Outback Sport Midnight Black Pearl	it (Ganz) will be MUCH quiter than the COBB...

03-29-2005, 10:37 PM	#25
RS_to_WRX_swap Scooby Specialist Member#: 40337 Join Date: Jul 2003 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: Bay Area Vehicle: 95 L Coupe Swapped 99 Outback	True, but I was talking about the location of the beginning of the intake. Brands like Injen place the filter to low, so that in areas like where I live and it rains all the time; the filter is too near the ground. It’s kind of pointless on an AWD car to be scared of puddles.