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Old 03-21-2005, 01:25 PM   #1
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Default If you could do it again, VF-34 or VF-22?

Seems that some love the 34, and others feel its too close to stock. If you could do it over again, would you opt out for the 22?

For those with the 22, do you feel low end is ever unbearable with stock gears?
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Old 03-21-2005, 01:49 PM   #2
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I have much more power than stock at all times.

VF22, lightened flywheel, wrapped stock manifold/uppipe/downpipe. Just need to be in the right gear.
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Old 03-21-2005, 01:51 PM   #3
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i ahve a 34... if i were to do it again i'd probably go with a vf22 or 18g
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Old 03-21-2005, 01:54 PM   #4
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i ahve a 34... if i were to do it again i'd probably go with a vf22 or 18g
What would be your deciding factor between the 18g and 22?
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Old 03-21-2005, 01:59 PM   #5
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For me, it would be cost. 18G is rebuildable, spools a bit quicker, and can push more CFM.
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Old 03-21-2005, 02:11 PM   #6
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For me, it would be cost. 18G is rebuildable, spools a bit quicker, and can push more CFM.

What are you looking at for a decent price on either turbo?
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Old 03-21-2005, 02:23 PM   #7
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im running a VF30 and its nowhere near stock.
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Old 03-21-2005, 04:26 PM   #8
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If I could do it again I'd skip the IHI turbos and go straight to a Green or GT30 setup.
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Old 03-21-2005, 04:31 PM   #9
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What would be your deciding factor between the 18g and 22?
if i had to do it ALL over again I wouldn't have wasted so much money on stupid stuff. I would probably get both and see which is better in auto-x situations. The vf34 is nice for that but it just lacks power on the highway. in the end it would be cost vs. the amount of low end i could keep.
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Old 03-21-2005, 04:40 PM   #10
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if i had to do it ALL over again I wouldn't have wasted so much money on stupid stuff. I would probably get both and see which is better in auto-x situations. The vf34 is nice for that but it just lacks power on the highway. in the end it would be cost vs. the amount of low end i could keep.
I myself would probably enjoy having higher end vs lower end. I do 0 auto-x and tons of HWY driving (especially with this car). If I *were* to ever get into a race it would either be a 1/4 mile race or HWY condition type racing (not that i do, of course)


With that said, where would be a good place in southern cali to get tuned for a VF-22 or 16/18G?
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Old 03-21-2005, 04:58 PM   #11
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I myself would probably enjoy having higher end vs lower end. I do 0 auto-x and tons of HWY driving (especially with this car). If I *were* to ever get into a race it would either be a 1/4 mile race or HWY condition type racing (not that i do, of course)


With that said, where would be a good place in southern cali to get tuned for a VF-22 or 16/18G?
I'd try Harman Motive in Torrance. Dan can pretty much set you up with want you're looking for.
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Old 03-21-2005, 05:04 PM   #12
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I'd try Harman Motive in Torrance. Dan can pretty much set you up with want you're looking for.
thanks for the quick reply. any idea how much he charges for a preceise tune?
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Old 03-21-2005, 05:17 PM   #13
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thanks for the quick reply. any idea how much he charges for a preceise tune?
everything is here:
http://www.harmanmotive.com/
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Old 03-21-2005, 05:20 PM   #14
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Old 03-21-2005, 05:42 PM   #15
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vf22 all over again.
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Old 03-21-2005, 06:00 PM   #16
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Well, was not part of the question, but I would skip the entire IHI line. Why MUST you stay with IHI?
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Well, was not part of the question, but I would skip the entire IHI line. Why MUST you stay with IHI?
I dont. I think I am leaning towards something more like the vf-22. Also considering the 16g or 18g as well.
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Old 03-21-2005, 06:07 PM   #18
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For me, it would be cost. 18G is rebuildable, spools a bit quicker, and can push more CFM.
just what I was repeating to myself..
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I dont. I think I am leaning towards something more like the vf-22. Also considering the 16g or 18g as well.
the vf-22 is an ihi turbo.
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Old 03-21-2005, 06:19 PM   #20
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the vf-22 is an ihi turbo.
Realize that, just saying that I am not stuck on this line of turbo. I am open to other suggestions.
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Old 03-21-2005, 06:32 PM   #21
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16G spool efaster and makes more than a VF34 and 18G is PE1820 better cousin. Basicly. So I have read and observed. DSM turbos are rebuildable and upgradeable as you know.

The large IHI's like the VF22 and the 1820 blow hot. A FMIC is a good idea. They are horrible TMIC turbos.
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Old 03-21-2005, 07:51 PM   #22
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having run VF23(P20) for 2 yrs and now VF34(P18) ...will take VF34 over VF22 & 23 again and again

VF22 are well known for letting blades go at high psi

not heard of 1 VF34 breaking yet.
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Old 03-21-2005, 08:57 PM   #23
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I've also talked to a few people that burned thier 22's out in a matter of <10K miles. If you're just looking for moderate, eg not HUGE power and PSI numbers, the 34 will suit you just fine and last a long time with the right tune, it will feel NOTHING like stock tuned. If you're looking to make bigger power, don't start with an IHI turbo, you'll just end up burning it out and upgrading later.

I would suggest taking a ride, or driving a 2.0 with a 34 equipped, or larger turbo to get a feeling what of I"m talking about.
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Old 03-21-2005, 11:18 PM   #24
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^^^ let me know where you can do that?? im all in
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Old 03-22-2005, 01:54 AM   #25
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Doing it over again, I'd have gotten an 18G instead of a VF30. I just rectified that situation!
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