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Old 03-22-2005, 06:45 AM   #1
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Unhappy Have you disputed a fix-it ticket? Help me!

Ah... where do I begin. I was driving my friend to a towing yard because his car was towed, but we got lost. While driving down this road, 2 R32s blow past me and get infront of me only to stop at a light. (his friend being on his right at a 2 left lane signal) Well, A cop pulls up behind me and waits for the light. When it turned green, the cop hits his lights. The R32 keeps going and I get pulled over.

My car is pretty much stock minus a cat-back exhaust. I have a 2005 STI with an HKS Carbon-Titanium Cat-back. Well, conitnuing with the story.

The cop walks up to me and does the license and registration stuff and as I was giving him my ID, Proof, and Reg, he starts going off about "So you boys racing down MY Street?" ****. Honestly, I didn't even get the chance to. Well, he starts Running my ID along with my 2 passengers. When he gets back, he gives me a ticket for a "loud exhaust" and starting going on and on about "Don't think I don't know what you guys were doing down MY street. I know it was Coincidence." God I hate being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

This may sound Noobie, but I seriously have never gotten a ticket before. Any way I can get out of this?

(btw, i'm checking to see if it's CARB legal... but I dont know if that'll even help considering the ticket is for a "Loud Exhaust")

*Edit it's a CVC 27150(a) and yes is checked for Correctable Violation
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Old 03-22-2005, 07:02 AM   #2
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a cat back exhaust shouldn't matter as far as CARB is concerned - you haven't altered any of the emissions controls on the car, so you should be all set. You need to see if the muffler violates the noise regulations in your area, though (it probably doesn't - interestingly, people have been pulled over with a stock exhaust on their STi out here and been written up for the same thing - pretty funny) - you probably have to get the exhaust evaluated somewhere and provide proof that it's not in violation. If you search around, I think there have been a couple of threads on this - you might consider posting in your local forum as well.
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Old 03-22-2005, 07:25 AM   #3
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Yeah... I should have posted in my chapter... Done!
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Old 03-22-2005, 12:42 PM   #4
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This is what I did when i got a fixit ticket. I went down to the local police station, and waited twll i saw what i think was a decent policemen, and i asked him if he could take a look at my car to see if i should take them mods or not... he sat in my car look around it, and said my car is pretty damn nice and that he didnt think that i should have to change a thing, then i showed him the fixit ticket and he said i will sign you off on these and that was that... even thoough there are a hole police men out there like the ones you and i encountered... really what happened to me was the same thing you described... anyhoo yeah just ask a decent policemen or one you think is decent, not the state patrol, but your local town police, most likely they will write it off for you.
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Old 03-22-2005, 12:51 PM   #5
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wow, california is bad

ny isnt that great either, I got a ticket for no front plate, decided to just send it in, and that little no front plate ticket is going to cost me $85 now
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Old 03-22-2005, 01:35 PM   #6
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tell the judge you removed the exhaust and he'll let you off, unless his pet peeve happens to be loud exhausts
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Old 03-22-2005, 01:58 PM   #7
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This is what I did when i got a fixit ticket. I went down to the local police station, and waited twll i saw what i think was a decent policemen, and i asked him if he could take a look at my car to see if i should take them mods or not... he sat in my car look around it, and said my car is pretty damn nice and that he didnt think that i should have to change a thing, then i showed him the fixit ticket and he said i will sign you off on these and that was that... even thoough there are a hole police men out there like the ones you and i encountered... really what happened to me was the same thing you described... anyhoo yeah just ask a decent policemen or one you think is decent, not the state patrol, but your local town police, most likely they will write it off for you.
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Old 03-22-2005, 10:09 PM   #8
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I know an LAPD cop so if I where you I would let her fix it. I am not you though, and I drive a Stock Legacy L Sedan 2004, So I wouldn't get a ticket to begin with. I also have a clean driving record so I tend not to get tickets anyway.

When Talking to a cop always be polite, always say yes sir, if a guy, Maam otherwise. Agree with everything they say and say thankyou when they let you go. I have been pulled over for flying around a corner in my Mustang a couple years back squealed my tires and just happened to be making the turn light, turning infront of a cop car. I made an Illegal turn once too, by accident, and again agreed that since I did make the turn, even though I didn't know I couldn't that I should get a ticket. Said yes sir and was polite and agreed and was let off, he didn't even check me out on his computer.

Although I used to get off from the RCMP alot back when my Dad was Police Commissioner, but that was back in High school, but that was mostly for those unavoidable checkstops and things. Because of my Dad I didn't speed, go through stop signs or anything really bad, atleast in a car.

My Evil side stops being evil when I get in my Subaru or any other car. The rest of the time I am the Diabolical1 CC 8=3 A.'.A.'.
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Old 03-24-2005, 03:59 PM   #9
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Do they have a set DB level that is considered "to loud"? Or is it left up to the police to decide? In PA I think its 50 dbs @ 50 ft(something like that). see if they have db meter. Maybe you can fight it that way.
best of luck.

P.S. Atleast you didnt get a ticket for street racing in PA the fine is 10 points, a crazy fine and loss of license for 6 months My friend is fighting one now.
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:10 PM   #10
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Pay a jiffy lube attendant twenty bucks to write up an invoice that says you had an exhaust leak?
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:13 PM   #11
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Do they have a set DB level that is considered "to loud"? Or is it left up to the police to decide? In PA I think its 50 dbs @ 50 ft(something like that). see if they have db meter. Maybe you can fight it that way.
best of luck.

P.S. Atleast you didnt get a ticket for street racing in PA the fine is 10 points, a crazy fine and loss of license for 6 months My friend is fighting one now.
No, it's up to the officer's discretion everywhere. Cops don't carry decibel-meters.
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:16 PM   #12
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As stated by someone above...don't change anything, find a nice cop and tell him you changed it, he should sign it off. (if he/she is cool) Keep trying until you find one to do it.

I live in CA and I have done this before.
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:25 PM   #13
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No, it's up to the officer's discretion everywhere. Cops don't carry decibel-meters.
Yes. CA vehicle code excerpt:

27151. (a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor
vehicle in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted
by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle is not in compliance
with the provisions of Section 27150 or exceeds the noise limits
established for the type of vehicle in Article 2.5 (commencing with
Section 27200). No person shall operate a motor vehicle with an
exhaust system so modified.
(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor
vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less
than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or
less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers
Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle
exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to,
nonoriginal exhaust equipment.

That's just one. There are standards for new vehicles, motorcycles, and aftermarket exhaust systems. Further, there is the 50 ft. standard and another measurement taken 3' from the exhaust tip in a range of +/- 90 degrees from centerline of the tip. There is regulation about where the tip can exit from under the vehicle, what direction it may face...all kinds of things.

Oh, and BTW...

27150.3. (a) A person may not modify the exhaust system of a motor
vehicle with a whistle-tip.
(b) A person may not operate a motor vehicle if that vehicle's
exhaust system is modified in violation of subdivision (a).
(c) A person may not engage in the business of installing a
whistle-tip onto a motor vehicle's exhaust system.
(d) For purposes of subdivisions (a) and (c), a "whistle-tip" is a
device that is applied to, or is a modification of, a motor vehicle'
s exhaust pipe for the sole purpose of creating a high-pitched or
shrieking noise when the motor vehicle is operated.
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Old 03-24-2005, 04:28 PM   #14
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Oh n03s!!1! But is just fo' decorashun! Das it and das all!
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IBSC-WrexgetsannoyedbecausestreetracersdevaluehisR32


edit: Doh! Too late!
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