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Old 03-23-2005, 05:57 PM   #1
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So if I have custom engine mounts, tranny mounts, or suspension bushings, I have to race in open.

Am I reading this correctly?

http://www.sfrscca.org/RallyX/docume...sesAndTech.pdf
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Old 03-23-2005, 07:14 PM   #2
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im sure modrift will chim in soon with his opinion wait for the master...maybe even the master of drift will chime in HOCHE where art though..lol
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Old 03-24-2005, 09:20 PM   #3
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Old 03-25-2005, 01:00 AM   #4
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Heh. "Master of Drift". That's pretty funny, considering my driving style in a Subaru is mostly driftless and kinda dull. Now in a RWD car - that's different story. There's nothing more fun than hanging the tail out!

Anyway, yeah, Element533 is reading the rules right, but we're probably going to revert back to the CRS rules for this year. The National SCCA's ones don't really work well for our constituency. We've had several discussions to try to figure out how to modify them so that they will work better, but we keep running into different edge cases that don't make sense.

We'll definitely finalize things well in advance of the first event, but things are still in a bit of flux at the moment.
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Old 03-25-2005, 01:16 AM   #5
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Hey Steven,

Yeah, so the SCCA classifcations are, well, not quite fully baked. Like I mentioned in the email earlier today, we'll be rolling back to the CRS classifications as we've run during the past few of years to give us time to get this right and to allow for a wider discussion among everyone who wants to be involved in the process.

This whole false start thing is a pain in the ass I know, but we believe that rolling with CRS classes this year, which have basically worked fine for us in the past, is the best option right now.

I will try to get the site updated and email everyone by tomorrow evening. I'll post the message here as well, once I send it out. In the meantime, this is the new classifications document:

http://www.sfrscca.org/RallyX/docume...esAndTech2.pdf
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Old 03-25-2005, 10:37 AM   #6
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Cool, sounds good. I'm glad to hear we'll be using the tried and true. Looking forward to it.

I'm still trying to get some dirt tires! (Maybe I can rent a set from one of the other competitors...?)
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Old 03-25-2005, 11:56 AM   #7
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Heh. "Master of Drift". That's pretty funny, considering my driving style in a Subaru is mostly driftless and kinda dull. Now in a RWD car - that's different story. There's nothing more fun than hanging the tail out!

Anyway, yeah, Element533 is reading the rules right, but we're probably going to revert back to the CRS rules for this year. The National SCCA's ones don't really work well for our constituency. We've had several discussions to try to figure out how to modify them so that they will work better, but we keep running into different edge cases that don't make sense.

We'll definitely finalize things well in advance of the first event, but things are still in a bit of flux at the moment.
well i meant you were the master of skyler(master of modrift=Master of drift) eh i was just playing and modrift is master over me so i guess that makes you both...... the master duo....lol see everyone at the rallycross.
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Old 03-25-2005, 05:37 PM   #8
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Yeah! I can strip the interior once again!
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Old 03-25-2005, 06:45 PM   #9
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Dear RallyCross participants,

Earlier this year, SCCA issued national RallyCross classifications. We adopted these classifications for the most part, with some amendments for our region. It has become clear however, that these new classes are not quite ready for prime time, and we have decided for 2005 to reinstate the California Rally Series classes which we have already been using for the past few years (Street Stock, Street Modified, and Open).

Making the decision to retain the CRS classifications for 2005 will grant us more time to work through the issues and to provide a wider discussion among all participants who are interested in contributing to the process. This will also allow us to keep in place a tried and true system while sorting things out.

This change will not affect your opportunity in any Divisional or National RallyCross championship events. These events are still in the discussion phase, but most likely anyone who trophies in their region (top 3 positions in class) will be invited to the Divisional/National events. These events would be run under the official 2005 SCCA RallyCross rules/classes.

So, what does this all mean?

If you entered your CRS class on the registration form then I already have it. Otherwise, you can either email me your new class or we can take care of it the morning of race day during tech. If you aren't familiar with the original classes, they are fortunately very simple so the determination is relatively painless and quick.

The classes can be found here:

http://www.sfrscca.org/RallyX/?faq#Classes

I apologize for the inconvenience. Please feel free to reply with any questions, comments, or concerns.

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It's now official. Now let's just pretend this whole SCCA classificaitons thing never happened. Thank you, drive though.
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It's now official. Now let's just pretend this whole SCCA classificaitons thing never happened. Thank you, drive though.
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Right now I think the CRS classes are sufficient with our current numbers (average a bit under 60 drivers per event). We're currently looking at a venue about an hour east of the Bay Area and if that works out and our drivers grow to 80-100 per event, we're going to need something a little better to represent the field. We're imagining one new "mid level mods with street tires" class between Street Stock and Street Modified.

With Solo II, in the past they've seen that events more than 100 miles outside of the Bay Area can be 50% smaller a turnout than those within 100 miles. Thunderhill is about 140 miles out depending, and we may be able to bring something in within 60 miles. Nothing written in stone yet, but we may have a mixed tarmac and dirt rallycross an hour away from the Bay Area later this year.
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wow thats sounds awesome i am so down. Mixed rally cross sounds really cool. Although dirt drifting is better
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