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Old 03-27-2005, 01:14 AM   #1
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Ive got a 4EAT 02 subaru wrx running cobb stage 2. Ive got a freind thats keep on bugging me to race him against his evo VIII. Ive read that many 5spd wrx's have taken evo's running cobb stage 2 and taking them by as much as a car length or more. But then again its stick. So since mine is automatic i know its slower since i dont have a torque converter, but will i stand a chance in beating my friend with his damn evo?
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Old 03-27-2005, 10:26 AM   #2
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If you had the high stall TC, then 50/50. As your car is now, only if he misses a shift.
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Old 03-27-2005, 11:49 AM   #3
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Ive got a 4EAT 02 subaru wrx running cobb stage 2. Ive got a freind thats keep on bugging me to race him against his evo VIII. Ive read that many 5spd wrx's have taken evo's running cobb stage 2 and taking them by as much as a car length or more. But then again its stick. So since mine is automatic i know its slower since i dont have a torque converter, but will i stand a chance in beating my friend with his damn evo?
I have an 02 wagon w/ full turbo back exhaust. Gutted up, oversize tmic, K&N flat intake. Running Cobb AP stg.2- 1.20 -93 map.
On my Passport G-Meter, the best I have done is 0-60 @ 6.1 2nds. but that was on winter gas, and it was calibrated for 3250 lbs. rather than real world car weight of 3500, w/ me, and a tank of gas.
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Old 03-27-2005, 12:55 PM   #4
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so even if i got the high stall converter it would still be 50/50? thats kind of hard for me to believe. I mean high stall converters should ge me as fast as a 5spd, and many 5spds runnings Cobb Stage 2 have said they have taken evos no problem.
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Old 03-27-2005, 01:22 PM   #5
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so even if i got the high stall converter it would still be 50/50? thats kind of hard for me to believe. I mean high stall converters should ge me as fast as a 5spd, and many 5spds runnings Cobb Stage 2 have said they have taken evos no problem.
Well OK, I give it 60/40 for you with high stall TC. It would depend on the driving ability of the evo driver you are up against.
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Old 03-28-2005, 11:28 AM   #6
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so even if i got the high stall converter it would still be 50/50? thats kind of hard for me to believe. I mean high stall converters should ge me as fast as a 5spd, and many 5spds runnings Cobb Stage 2 have said they have taken evos no problem.
You can gain a lot with a modified TC, & solenoid valve, but it's going to be pricy. Also, your engine-tranny lockup is going to higher rpm's, so your gas milage will go down. Things to consider.
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Old 03-28-2005, 11:33 AM   #7
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all drivers equal, no chance at all.

stock evo vs stock STi are roughly equal give or take a few tenths.

my bro in law had an '04 with TBE and a cobb stg II......my sti would leave him pretty badly, and its only got a TBE...... so if he couldnt hang with me, theres no way u could hang with an evo.

not baggin on your car, just callin it like i see it.
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Old 03-28-2005, 01:44 PM   #8
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get the cobb 2.5 and you'll be in good hands for sure.
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Old 03-28-2005, 02:16 PM   #9
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Alright, yah i wont be moving up to Cobb stage 2.5 for a while. Money isnt flwoing to well for me now, im only 16 with a part time photography job, but i will be lookin for a summer job. But thanks for ur opinions guys. I think im just gonna wait until i get some ic hoses and a torque converter put in, then i MIGHT give him a shot.
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Old 03-28-2005, 03:03 PM   #10
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A good running cobb stage 2 5speed with an up-pipe is good for 13.2-13.5 @ 99-103mph with a good driver. If your car is driven properly and you have all the supporting mods a cobb stage 2 can run with a stock evo or sti. Its gonna be really close, but with an auto you are in a bit of trouble.
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Old 03-29-2005, 02:34 AM   #11
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yah sure i will be in a little bit of trouble i know that, but after my torque converter i wont be in trouble right? ill be right up there with the 5spds...?
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Old 03-29-2005, 05:37 PM   #12
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yah sure i will be in a little bit of trouble i know that, but after my torque converter i wont be in trouble right? ill be right up there with the 5spds...?
You had better think oil cooler first, then the tc mod, or both at the same time.
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Old 03-29-2005, 07:20 PM   #13
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yah i will be doing those at the same time
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