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Old 03-27-2005, 10:08 AM   #1
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I've had it with my current vehicle and it's time to buy something that can actually pass someone at highway speeds, and accelerate even going uphills. Has more function then a car, and Is dependible in all weather .. im talking up to a foot of snow. I think I have found the right vehicle for me, just need some things answered by owners if possible. Or just anybody who has a Subaru.

I have been researching Subaru's as they have got my attention for their 4WD and turbo on most all models. Perticularly the Subaru Baja turbo is what I'm looking into purchasing in the next few months. I am the kinda guy who would rather drive to California from NJ then fly simply because driving is more then just transportation. It's fun and it never gets old. Some of you I'm sure can relate.

Basicaly, I'd like to hear from turbo baja owners how satisfied you are with your vehicles, and how long you have owned them for. (i realize its only been a short time since they are faily new) What is your primary use for the vehicle, and Whats your driving style ex: lead foot, grandma, follow all traffic laws or never been out in storms or what?

Any "reviews" would be great, I prefer talk about the purchase on here rather then the dealer because they can feed me lies all day. An owner is independant and doesn't get paid to praise their vehicle. They would realy have to enjoy it to say great things about it. so please owners, tell me what you think!
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Old 03-27-2005, 11:31 AM   #2
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Ive been a proud turbo baja owner now for a little over a year and I still love it. Like you mentioned the baja is capable of so many different things. It is a quick truck, great in any weather(fun to mess around with in snow...safely), and with the leather package and heated seats it is quite luxurious too. I currently started modding mine this past month and let me tell you, the baja has huge potential to produce huge power if your into that. Good luck with the new car!!
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Old 03-27-2005, 11:48 AM   #3
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you couldnt go wrong with a tbaja they are FAST handle very good and off road they are descent. i have had mine for 4 months and zero complaints. I have added a3" exhaust and am going to do some more mods but as a stock vehicle it should satisfy 90% of persons needs.
I am a lead foot outdoorsy type I have been offroad on some jeep trails and climbed up some mountains it does suprisingly well considering the street tires.
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Old 03-27-2005, 04:43 PM   #4
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What's a Baja Turbo like?
Fun factor, a 10!
Cool factor, an 8 (minimum)!
Practicality, a 9!
Smoking some Mustangs (and rice boys), PRICELESS!!!
Need I say more?
DO IT!
Keep it under 90, folks!
P.S. Have had mine for 5 months now, and the fun is just starting!
P.P.S. Mine's a daily driver, as well as a weekend workhorse. You will find that this car will grow on you. Buy one, you'll see!! Good luck in finding the kind you want, should be no problem!
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Old 03-27-2005, 05:39 PM   #5
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It aint no sports car. It rolls, yet its sure footed. Plenty of power. We went from a non-turbo to a turbo and the power is everything the average guy/girl would want in a comfy car. With snow tires I've never worried about getting stuck or wiping out. Go with the flow during the snow storms and the Baja will never let you down. It takes a bit to haul her down, the brakes seem a wee bit weak, but again it aint a sports car. The suspension is real nice for long hauls, but the seats are kind of flat. I have to adjust my position frequently during long trips. The driver's seat seems too high, I'm 5'8", but I'm used to my hair brushing the ceiling once in awhile now. Once in awhile I clunk my noodle getting inside. The bed seems like you'd never use it, then one day you'll use it frequently for a week or month. Its handy.
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Old 03-27-2005, 07:41 PM   #6
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Power: on the empty Easter day streets of Bellevue, I suprised a TSX driver who had just spanked an Integra GSR. He revved out at the stop light where I was waitng, but I hit it and keep in going through 3rd. He was 0wn3d! Each of the next three stoplights, I walked away from him and was 2 car lengths up by 45mph. To keep it safe, I would not exceed 45mph in the 35mph zone. But he was sure freaked out. For most owners of small pickups, probably too much horsepower.

Handling: It's not an STi, but it is miles better than any pickup I've ever driven. It handles better than my old Jetta and other VWs. The upside is it has good ground clearance, and it absorbs road rash really well.

Braking: A little weak, brake modulation is good, but they seem prone to fade. ABS interaction is a little odd, and some folks have reported false ABS activation. I am planning on doing at least some improved rotors and pads before doing any upgrades in terms of power.

Utility: The bed is small, but surprisingly useful. With a tonneau or cap, all weather hauling isn't an issue. For bikes, skis and the like, it is perfect. Not too big. Not too small. Towing is really out of the question, unless it is something small. The four door configuration is perfect for hauling people in comfort.

Ergonomics: Headroom is tight. I am 6'5" and it's a squeeze. Pedals are close together. I were a size 15 shoe and it can be a touch hard to shift the 5MT. The stock shifter is a little sloppy and way too tall.

Accomodations: Good options come standard. Sunroof, A/C, etc. Did wish for power seats, which are unavailable for 5MT cars. A little dark with the standard gray/black interior and tinted windows.

Reliability: Stone cold reliable so far. But it hates to idle cleanly with the A/C and the throttle/clutch action is tricky. No defects to date and it has taken some serious abuse, on and off road.

I love my Baja and heartily endorse it. They are a great, cheap sleeper hot rod. And while the aftermarket is tight on exterior and interior mods, the EJ255 is a great base for a power build up. And you will be exclusive in a BT, unlike some plain jane WRX.
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Old 03-27-2005, 08:39 PM   #7
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I've had mine for almost 3 payments now, I love it! It's officially my all-time favorite car. It responds when I ask it to and gives me all the power needed for climbing and passing.

In first gear, about half-clutch, it likes to give its all, so it takes a bit of practice to get a smooth start in confined areas. The body lean on hard curves can be a little unnerving at times. The ABS brakes freaked me out for a while, I never had them before. After playing a bit, I understand them and now we live a bit more harmoniously

I like the height of the seat, but find the headroom is a bit skimpy, I am also 5'8" and I wear my reading glasses on my head so I don't lose them <quite as often>... when I lean forward... ouch! I have found that when I adjust the seat for comfortable reach to the gas pedal, it's a bit too far a reach for the clutch, so I have to sit a bit closer to the wheel than I would like. Note to self: maybe a little block on the clutch might be in order here?

With the back seats folded down, it carries our black lab, he loves to stretch all the way out on long rides. The bed is large enough to carry the groceries, all our gear for a day out and a full Subaru Brat exhaust. When I go get the annual flowers for planting, it'll be great! (We have an F-350 for the big stuff and towing.)

It's a great little truck and would recommend it! I would buy it all over again, no regrets! Good luck!

I read a review by a professional who described shifting as "rowing through the gears". I personally don't have any issues with the shifter. It's a dream compared to the Brat which has a very long throw, I practically have to vacate the passenger to get into reverse!
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Old 03-28-2005, 12:27 AM   #8
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This is great, first I want to thank everybody here for the quick, detailed, and extrmely polite replies! I am amazed at the difference in owners from what I previously drove, and the owners of this cool little truck! Embarassed to say, but I currently drive a 2002 Dodge neon auto. People just have no respect on those kind of message forums. I'm talking rude like you can't even imagine people could be so jealous and angry all the time and just all around jerks. How can I blame them, The car is really worthless. (laughing) I had the car with 0 miles untill today when i hit 35,650. 3 Years this summer, all the while mod after mod after mod.. and I still hate it. So It's DEFINITLY time to step up in life with a better quality vehicle like this!

If anyone wants to see what I Drive/ and have to trade in to dent the payments on the baja with its my car i'll post up a pick right here if i can:




and you should be able to view the car in a new window if it isnt to much trouble!

Going from that to the BT will definitly be a tremendous relief in so many ways!!! The neons so powerless.. that I take my brother to work (he is 16 doesnt drive yet) and we hit a mountain every day, I have to floor it at the end of the curve on the up hill straight to even go anywhere and it must take me about 30 seconds to get from 20 mph to 35 mph . . It just frustrates me to have to chug along that slow just to climb a steep hill! The ground clearance is stock height of like maybe 5 inches at the lowest point so It scrapes speed bumps with 3-4 people in the car . I could rant for ever about what a poor choice it was to buy that car in the first place. It's yellow also, and I've had enough attention i didn't want to last a lifetime. The baja I am looking to purchase is the silver/silver matching colors with darker wheels it looks REALLY good!


Sorry for the huge post, I'm getting real excited and ancy waiting to find the right BT for me! (I'm sure you can all agree, this is a love it or ignorant so they hate it truck) everyone i show it too either loves it, ot doesnt understand why its so great so they hate it.. their loss!

I test drove one today, all I can say is wow, I know what I've been missing!! I will spend my next 2-3 years enjoying every payment i must make on this truck! I drove the automatic, because thats what I want to purchase with the manual shift mode so I can get leather seating or vice versa I forget which comes with which? I played with that and the lady who took me on the test drive goes why dont you just get the manual, I said because this one I dont have to mess with a clutch. (as fun as a 5 speed may be it just doesnt suit me well) It's just way easier for me and seeing on how I've been driving auto for 5 years, I guess just stick to what I know how to drive so I dont ruin the vehicle!

Last thought before some ?'s.. The wheels on my current car are universal 5 lug they can either be 5x100 or 5x114.3 and they are 17x7 with 45MM offset, isnt that the correct size to fit on the Baja? If so Maybe ill put the stock wheels on when I trade it and keep those

Well, Time to hit the hay, I'll be back tomorrow I did have a few other ?'s though

What color did everyone here buy?

What transmission auto, 5spd, or auto w/shift mode?

Did you get a soft, hard or No tonneau bed cover with the truck? Can you even order it with a hard tonneau? or replace the tailgate with a cargo net to reduce drag?

Thanks again everyone!

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Old 03-28-2005, 12:28 AM   #9
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Oh yeah one more thing, I see a lot of people have no head room, but i am 6-1 and some milimeters.. with shoes im about 6-3 and i had no trouble with view or head room, i guess it was the power seat under me which adjusted perfectly to where i sat comfortably (i sit pretty straight up and close to the wheel too) Not sure if that had any impact on my head room but I was fine with the room?
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Old 03-28-2005, 01:42 AM   #10
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hey i have my 05 t baja for sale so if your interested give me a buzz dont wanna let it go but have to.
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Old 03-28-2005, 08:33 AM   #11
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17 x 7 with 45 offset is a little on the low side, but might fit. A 17 x 7 is preferred to be around 48-52mm offset... so the wheel/tire might stick out a little more... also.. too low an offset than recommended on Subarus may prematurely wear the bearings. The hub pattern is 5 x 100.

I have an Automatic with SportShift also. Works fine by me.
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:54 AM   #12
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oh, the stock offset i guess is not 45mm, i heard some where it might be the same, I will just trade the wheels in then because I don't mind the stock baja wheels at all they are kinda nice

Gentzleon, i'm sorry to hear about having to sell it man, I'm not looking to purcahse any other color scheme then silver/silver but I wish you luck in the sale! ~ Brett
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Old 03-28-2005, 11:38 AM   #13
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If you want a little more info on wheel size there is some solid info to be found here -
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=335263
I run a 17 x 7 1/2 wide rim with 48 offset myself with no problems. If you do go to 17's 225/55-17 tires will keep your speedo reading true.

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Old 03-28-2005, 12:36 PM   #14
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great vehicle, like these guys said. Plenty of power, AWD is awesome -- I drove through the backroads in this last snowstorm and through completely unplowed roads (where it was hard to tell where the roads even were) I managed fine with the stock tires going up a mountain and around sharp bends. There were many, many cars stuck along the sides of the road.

Gas mileage -- I get about 23mpg on mostly highway. Of course im in the turbo a lot too which doesnt help.
Seats -- wife has complained the cloth/leather combo seats are a bit on the hard side, they seem fine to me.
Utility -- get the bed extender and learn how to use all the bed configs. I have a tonneu cover too and the whole combo works great. We have hauled 4 people and 5' long things no problem.

Good luck!
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Old 03-28-2005, 02:00 PM   #15
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Gas - no big deal, If you wanna play you gotta pay right? Premium fuel here is 93 octane, so im good. As for higher, I can find 109 at the pump here, but thats for race cars and what not.

Milage, 23 mpg is an improvement over the Neon.. I have a 12.5 G tank and i manage something like 230 miles per tank on a GOOD day. So the baja will be comparible to that type of 20 23 mpg.

On a side note, i was informed by my brother who works for haynes oil co. that the price of regular fuel will go up to 3.000 a gallon or better in NJ by the end of 2005. That would probably put Premium at around 3.250 and thats enough!

In the event that prices do rise that high and stay, I'll save up more for a commuter car/beater and use the baja sparingly. ~ Brett

Oh, anybody know where i can find Baja build specs like .. What years had how many of which colors? or is that not available yet?

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Old 03-28-2005, 08:56 PM   #16
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You can check out www.scoobytruck.com jaxed has break downs by color and year there somewhere

I bought yellow not available in 05, or in the turbo version

if you get an 05 t with leather, you will get the hard tonneau (the soft one is great for a few months until it frays on the edges)

our n/a kept up with a pack of Mustangs, mostly modded GTs, it shifts at 95 mph-I dont care what anyone says, the na rocks, and it gets better gas mileage on 87 octane (turbo requires 92)
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:12 PM   #17
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Damn man, Modded GT's in the N/A! I haven't hammered an N/a Baja .. I once test drove an 05 Blue N/a and it was just not quick enough for me, it was comparible to the power of my neon when not hammered. (which dynod at 111 hp and 110 tq Stock @ wheels) I never got to get on it because the old man i test drove with was telling me to go slow and take it easy, i wasnt about to argue, but i know they all have insurance.

Gas milage I don't really worry about. I want the turbo and I'm prepared to paywhat ever the price of 93 octane is at the time .(Jersey has the cheapest gas i heard in the US) lucky for me, this is where i reside for now.

as for yellow, If you check my earlier post i posted a link indirectly you gotta fill in the prefix and suffix of it, but you can see i have a yellow car, Trying to step away from that although i like them I'm just tired of the attention. I'm after a silver/silver Baja turbo W/ sportshift new, used, i dont really mind as long as it still had warranty.
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Old 03-29-2005, 11:29 AM   #18
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Before I go making a bunch of other posts, I have to ask in here maybe someone will see.

The baja turbo has a recirculating BOV stock right?

If so Has anyone altered that or no? I Can hear the blow off enter the intake tract when I test drove it and I figured someone got curious and added an atmospheric BOV by now? For sound purposes only, It doesn't serve any other purpose then that I wouldn't suspect.
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:55 PM   #19
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Once you get a short ram or take the silencer off you can hear the rec. BOV much better.... Atm BOV arent better other than for the sound they make.
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dammit. this thread makes me want to trade the Legacy on the vehicle I should have bought instead.
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hey i have my 05 t baja for sale so if your interested give me a buzz dont wanna let it go but have to.
where are you located?
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Old 03-29-2005, 02:33 PM   #22
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Damn man, Modded GT's in the N/A! I haven't hammered an N/a Baja .. I once test drove an 05 Blue N/a and it was just not quick enough for me, it was comparible to the power of my neon when not hammered. (which dynod at 111 hp and 110 tq Stock @ wheels) I never got to get on it because the old man i test drove with was telling me to go slow and take it easy, i wasnt about to argue, but i know they all have insurance.

Gas milage I don't really worry about. I want the turbo and I'm prepared to paywhat ever the price of 93 octane is at the time .(Jersey has the cheapest gas i heard in the US) lucky for me, this is where i reside for now.

as for yellow, If you check my earlier post i posted a link indirectly you gotta fill in the prefix and suffix of it, but you can see i have a yellow car, Trying to step away from that although i like them I'm just tired of the attention. I'm after a silver/silver Baja turbo W/ sportshift new, used, i dont really mind as long as it still had warranty.
They werent exactly trying to leave us behind, but scooby moves it when ya get into the gas! The sales guy out our local dealer is a riot-he does some amateur rally x and coaches you to actually push the cars/trucks-like accelterating out of a turn.

I like yellow-although you're right, it's an attention getter for sure! Some other colors make the baja alot more stealth, which can be hard in such an unusual car/truck!
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