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Old 03-28-2005, 09:40 PM   #1
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I have a 99 impreza L with the 2.2 in it. i have an intake and an apexi N1 catback exhuast. Anybody know any good ways i can make more horse power? Im going to eventually do a ej2.0 swap but for now i need soem extra punch Thanks guys
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Old 03-28-2005, 09:42 PM   #2
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Go for a lightened pulley set, since you can transfer it to the EJ20 when you get it.
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Old 03-28-2005, 10:05 PM   #3
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the only way to really feel a difference in changing the air flow (intake/exhaust) is changing out your cam shaft. then things will really start to change. and you will need a air/fuel ratio changer thingy. or you could just buy a turbo
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:52 AM   #4
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Check the archives for the TWE cams discussion. From what people were saying, it sounds like doing a cam swap for this motor will really help it breathe and keep it drivable with power in the mid range.
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:56 AM   #5
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Don't waste your money on parts that you can't transfer over to an EJ20 swap. Go for the crank pulleys like I said.
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Old 03-29-2005, 01:28 AM   #6
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i am somewhat interested in cams for the L but i seriously cant find any. i found them for ej25. but not ej22. i think 99subi would like to hear this too.
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Old 03-29-2005, 07:40 AM   #7
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Delta cams are cheap, just $130
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Old 03-29-2005, 10:41 AM   #8
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Don't waste your money on parts that you can't transfer over to an EJ20 swap. Go for the crank pulleys like I said.
This advice is worthless! Any genuine high performance parts put into this car will have re-sale value IF he ever does an Ej20 swap. So many people say they are going to do a swap and never do, or don't do it for 2-3 years and they just wait and wait and wait to mod their car in anticipation of that swap. Have some fun with the car right now...

In addition to the cams, you can get Borla headers for the single exhaust port heads on your car...
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Old 03-29-2005, 07:21 PM   #9
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There isn't a whole lot to do with that car that's going to give you real kick in the butt power (assuming you want to keep it na).

I used to have a 99 L coupe and loved it. It handled well, and was still quick enough to beat all the cavaliers around here!! I only ever put an intake on, lol, then I bought a wrx.

If I had kept the car, I would have taken a bit different route as far as mods go. I would have stiffened up the suspension a little bit, then done something with that sloppy shifter. I probably would have clutch/flywheel as well. That's just my .02, but if I were you, I'd either turbo or get a ... WRX!
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Old 03-29-2005, 09:47 PM   #10
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i am somewhat interested in cams for the L but i seriously cant find any. i found them for ej25. but not ej22. i think 99subi would like to hear this too.
Yea really man i would love to find some cams for the ej22 but i can never find em
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Old 03-29-2005, 09:56 PM   #11
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no luv for the L
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Old 03-29-2005, 10:18 PM   #12
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Hey man I loved my L while I had it, it was an awesome car for my first subie.
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i love my L too (first car as well) but aftermarket parts companies have no love for it ( or so it seems)
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Old 03-29-2005, 10:26 PM   #14
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i love my L too (first car as well) but aftermarket parts companies have no love for it ( or so it seems)
its so true they hate the L's (hell yea my first car too )
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:02 AM   #15
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Do a search on Delta cams like G.Subramaniam said. They make cams for the EJ22 that are very reasonably priced.

If you're going to do a swap eventually, buy all your parts used if you can. It will save you some serious money in the long run.

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Old 03-30-2005, 09:35 AM   #16
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I also have the 2.2L in the Legacy L. Im mostly concentrating on suspension, although I do plan on an intake, borla headers, and some sort of muffler. Also, a grounding kit and lightened pulleys would be a nice upgrade.
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One other suggestion for those who are serious about making some power w/their L and can do some wrenching. Read the high compression frankenstein thread. If you switch out your 2.2l bottom end with an EJ25 shortblock, you get a nice healthy CR bump that give you 20-30hp when mated with the appropriate cams (Delta, in case you guys still don't get it! ) And if anyone needs an Ej25 block, I have a low mileage one in my garage...
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Old 03-30-2005, 11:51 AM   #18
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Well if you plan on keeping the car for like 5 years, why not do some suspension like mentioned so when it comes time for a swap you have the suspension already done and your not taking off bolt on mods that wouldn't mate with the new engine. I have an EJ22 as well and have been doing a lot of searching for those who have turboed the EJ18, EJ22, and the EJ25 and it looks like it can be done rather quick like 2 days if you have everything maybe one day plus 5-6 psi has been done for some people's rides for thousands of miles no problem just the fuel managment is the only worries, unlike a swap were you would have to do a lot of re-wiring you just get a piggy back like e-manage or the S-FAC. Then some of these turbo DIY guys have swaped different parts of each EJ engine to make the compression lower to accept more boost, like EJ25 heads on the EJ22.

Anyway if you turbo the EJ22 and later want the EJ20T you can just get the lond block and ECU.
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Old 03-30-2005, 01:30 PM   #19
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Well,
A turbo kit for the Ej22 runs anywhere from $1500-4500 and makes around 200-225hp. An EJ25 shortblock and Delta cams will run you around $600, including head gaskets and make you 200hp, assuming you have intake and exhaust on the car. And that complete motor will also be much more resellable than a stock EJ22E longblock...

All of this assumes you do your own labor. If you are paying a shop for any of it, add $500+ to the above pricing...

And you cannot just get an EJ20T (which doesn't exist, Ej20G's, H's, K's, R's, 5's and 7's exist, but not T's ) and an ECU. No EJ20 ECU will plug right into an NA Impreza. You will need a wiring harness, and if you want to use stock Subaru exhaust plumbing and turbo location, you will also need a crossmember.

You could always tune the new motor with the EM from your turbo kit, but that assumes you buy one of those expensive turbo kits that comes with real EM and not just an AFC and RRFPR...
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Also, if you're keeping the stock engine/ecu, you're still going to cut off at 112, lol, you'll just get there quicker with a turbo kit
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hmmm turbo my 2.2 doesnt sound like such a bad idea. Whats involved ?
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google Forced Air Technologies...
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Forced Air Tech is a great company. Before I bought my wrx, I looked at kits from them. They're very helpful and will answer any questions you have, just give them a call.
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Forced air tech great web site thanks but im thinking that my motor is going to have a shorter life span if i was to get one of those kits dont you think? and also for only a few more thousand wrx motor and harness + goodeis are in my reach i just dont no what to do?
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just get headers/intake/catback/camshaft and you should be good for power.
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