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Old 03-30-2005, 04:10 PM   #1
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Default Mini EVO vs WRX Shootout, Cecil County Dragway, When?

Obviously, only vote if you plan to attend. We are looking to field no more than 16 cars. Its more of a friendly local competition thing, of which most of the cars competing will be running LOW 12s to mid-11s.

Its $35 to get in to race at Cecil and $50 to compete, winner takes all.

ie- $50 x 8 cars = $400 to 1st place.

Other details:
Single elimination
Heads up
Everything else, fair game

We may have two sponsors for the mini-event who will award the winner with discounts at their prospective shops (ie- Xotic Motorsports (http://www.xoticmotorsports.com/) and New Freedom Performance (http://www.newfreedomperformance.com/). Possibly something for the runner up as well.


Whose Running? (tentative)

WRXs
dug-e-fresh: 11.8 @ 118.6
mikaust: 11.5 @ 120.5
SinistiR: 11.9 @ 118

EVOs
Kev- 12.0 @ 122.3
ERaab- 11.8 @ 117

Another sponsor jumped aboard, so now we have:
New Freedom Performance (www.newfreedomperformance.com)
Xotic Motorsports (www.xoticmotorsports.com)
CD Audio and Performance & AudioImages (www.speedsunknown.com)

I will confirm if they all are indeed gonna offer prizes and or discounts.

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Old 03-30-2005, 04:18 PM   #2
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need to get tuned, need to get tuned, need to get tuned
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Old 03-30-2005, 04:19 PM   #3
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Vote on a day Todd!!! and get tuned by then,....

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Old 03-30-2005, 04:20 PM   #4
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PS- Michael and I are going down to TXS this Saturday for some C16 tunes

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Old 03-30-2005, 04:28 PM   #5
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PS- Michael and I are going down to TXS this Saturday for some C16 tunes

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I have a few hundred miles to go, then I can get tuned for pump and C16. Another couple of weeks and I should be good. I should shoot down to watch, but you know my luck w/ motors. Maybe I should leave the state for the day
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Old 03-30-2005, 04:30 PM   #6
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I have a few hundred miles to go, then I can get tuned for pump and C16. Another couple of weeks and I should be good. I should shoot down to watch, but you know my luck w/ motors. Maybe I should leave the state for the day
lol! You can park the car up in New Freedom... and just bring yourself.

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Old 03-30-2005, 04:34 PM   #7
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Dug-e-fresh: i have never met you but thanks for beating the evos
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Old 03-30-2005, 04:59 PM   #8
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Ya had to post this while I am clutchless didn't ya
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Old 03-30-2005, 05:43 PM   #9
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order this.... its cheap and will get you up and running:

http://www.eclutchmaster.com/racingitem.asp?num=100

I was gonna get that, but ended up with:

http://www.jscspeed.com/wrx/clutch/spec.htm
(the Stage 3 4-puck)

Spec doesn't have the greatest rep... but I figured I try them out.

I am REALLY curious about that eClutchmaster 6 puck... if the Spec 4-puck doesn't work out, I am gonna go with that one. Someones gotta try it out Might as well be me... lol!

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Old 03-30-2005, 05:44 PM   #10
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BTW- all you need to run 5spd clutches is the flywheel. I've ran both 5spd and 6spd clutch set-ups on my 5spd box.

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Old 03-30-2005, 05:53 PM   #11
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I dealt with puck clutches years ago and really dread them. I got a place sorta by me (MRC) and they are a A-T-S clutch retailer now. Really nice full carbon fiber triple for $1000 less than that Exedy crap
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Old 03-30-2005, 06:03 PM   #12
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My car is apart as I type getting the cage, and motor put in.
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Old 03-30-2005, 06:04 PM   #13
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I dont care when the day is, as long as its after the 15th of april.
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Old 03-30-2005, 06:14 PM   #14
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My car is apart as I type getting the cage, and motor put in.
Did I miss something in the past I know you talked about a different engine, so what is it
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Old 03-30-2005, 06:16 PM   #15
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I dealt with puck clutches years ago and really dread them. I got a place sorta by me (MRC) and they are a A-T-S clutch retailer now. Really nice full carbon fiber triple for $1000 less than that Exedy crap
My last clutch was the Exedy triple puck.... sameone Andy is running. It was one helluva mother f'er in SOOO many ways.

It took some serious abuse... and delved out some as well. It took some time getting used to it... eventually I did.

at any rate, a 3 puck is the worse case scenario. Everything else will be better. Sooo... the 4-puck is next... and if I don't like it... I guess I'll do the 6 puck.

BTW- I know solid hubs are worse the sprung... I am not even considering a pucked solid hub ANYTHING. Its gotta be sprung...

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Old 03-30-2005, 06:20 PM   #16
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Did I miss something in the past I know you talked about a different engine, so what is it
I know, I know.... lol!

Its gonna be something to contend with Andy... luckily for me, with the cage, that only makes my car all that much lighter than yours.

Your still doing the Green (for now), right?

That brings up a valid point about this competition. What do we do if someone breaks the 11.49 rule (and someone will, ) BUT, they don't have a cage AND won't be allowed to run again?

Do we make this a "Fastest Run of the Day" type thing? Maybe we could do 80% goes to best ET and 20% goes to highest mph?

Would kinda suck if 2 cars break out (faster than 11.49) and can't run after that... would leave someone running 11.50 a chance to take all the money.

We can't have that! lol!

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Old 03-30-2005, 06:25 PM   #17
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The new motor will have stock crank, stock rods, CP pistons, arp studs and a little head work. I am going with an external wastegate also.

I will leave it up to you guys to decide about the 11.49 issue, since I wont have to worry about it. Lets try and be fair though.
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I might squeeze her a little too
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Old 03-30-2005, 06:26 PM   #19
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The new motor will have stock crank, stock rods, CP pistons, arp studs and a little head work. I am going with an external wastegate also.

I will leave it up to you guys to decide about the 11.49 issue, since I wont have to worry about it. Lets try and be fair though.
Well,... let us know what you think is fair! lol!

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Old 03-30-2005, 06:27 PM   #20
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hmmm... how big a shot?

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Old 03-30-2005, 06:29 PM   #21
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My last clutch was the Exedy triple puck.... sameone Andy is running. It was one helluva mother f'er in SOOO many ways.

It took some serious abuse... and delved out some as well. It took some time getting used to it... eventually I did.

at any rate, a 3 puck is the worse case scenario. Everything else will be better. Sooo... the 4-puck is next... and if I don't like it... I guess I'll do the 6 puck.

BTW- I know solid hubs are worse the sprung... I am not even considering a pucked solid hub ANYTHING. Its gotta be sprung...

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I got used to the Exedy twin disc carbon setup pretty fast. The nicest thing about it was the wieght of the carbon disc. They are so light that there is no strain on the syncros so shifting is great.

All the carbon clutches are solid hub deals but they slip enough till they get a bit of heat in them. When I had a solid hub puck deal it was an on off switch. So I just stay away from them cause I could see myself breaking my rear R160 with that kind of grab. I managed to break my rear axles with the stock clutch and turbo
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Old 03-30-2005, 06:33 PM   #22
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Awe man....at least lemme get into the 11's before I have to start spraying it
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hmmm... how big a shot?

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Oh I dont know, 100 maybe. It all depends on how much longer the clutch holds out. So it might be a 0 shot, lol.

And for the record, my best mph is 118.
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Oh I dont know, 100 maybe. It all depends on how much longer the clutch holds out. So it might be a 0 shot, lol.

And for the record, my best mph is 118.
hmm... 100, eh? Good luck with that one!! Seriously... I myself MAY do a 50 at somep point... but I'd rather get a bigger turbo. THEN, if that lag is that bad do a 35 to spool it...

mph noted.

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well, a big ass rotated mount is in my near future, the nawz will have to do the trick in the mean time, lol.
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