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Old 04-01-2005, 10:15 AM   #1
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Default dyno tune or no?

i have just a basic stage 2 ecutek tune... my mods are TBE(catless), catless uppipe, and I/C hoses. my question is would it be worth it to get it dynotuned if this is all i have planned for mods up until next spring of 06? how much more WHP would i get out of a dynotune, rather than a basic tune?
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Old 04-01-2005, 11:42 AM   #2
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Yes... base maps suck. Tuning will gain you a lot of power and moreover, a knowingly SAFE (afr-wise) tune.
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Old 04-01-2005, 11:49 AM   #3
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Yes... base maps suck. Tuning will gain you a lot of power and moreover, a knowingly SAFE (afr-wise) tune.
Your an idiot, dyno tunes are so overrated. Stg 4 cars don't even need them, the fastest stg4's i've seen have been off txs basemaps. Damn n00b's spreading around misinformation. You go to hell and you die.





































Uh, april fools?
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Old 04-01-2005, 11:55 AM   #4
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I gained 17 HP (stock was 155, base map was 165, tuned was 182) by getting it dyno tuned, and it ran better too.
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Old 04-01-2005, 11:58 AM   #5
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How much should it cost to dyno tune/how long does it take?
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:01 PM   #6
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Soon2Bgreat, you got me man. I was like what the hell. He must be having a bad day. Nice one!
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:02 PM   #7
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Isn't it fun
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:05 PM   #8
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On my VF22 TMIC stage 4 car, I paid $690 for my Dyno tune by Phil (who was with TXS at the time)

FOr $690 bucks I gained

40WHP
20+ftlbs
A much wider torque curve
300RPM faster spool
I got 50-75 more miles out of a tank of gas
MUCH smoother acceleration.

Best money I ever spent on the car.
I am thinking of finding Phil to do the tune on my new motor once it is done.
Although honestly, if I were to just take my time, I know enough that I could get it VERY close to his level of tune. It would just take me a LOT more effort and time.
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:05 PM   #9
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How much should it cost to dyno tune/how long does it take?
It depends. Most places charge around $200/hour. The longer you spend on the dyno, the better your map will be, to a point. A lot of tuners recommend 2 hours. Ultimately its up to you as to how much time you want to spend.
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Your an idiot, dyno tunes are so overrated. Stg 4 cars don't even need them, the fastest stg4's i've seen have been off txs basemaps. Damn n00b's spreading around misinformation. You go to hell and you die.





































Uh, april fools?
Louis me and you are fighting... and I hope you have another Tuner so we can short it out
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:08 PM   #11
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Definitly dyno tune. Some places have mape for geographic areas some do not. There are some vendors like KingPin who travel nation wide to host dyno days or road tuning sessoins. As a result you can get a base map that is reasonably good. Some just flash for thier area and send it out. Altitude, humidity etc.. can all throw a perfectly good tune out of whack. So a base map is not a base map. There are octane and geographic differences to account for. Do some research before you get a base map. If you use U-Tec you may be able to get a map from a local with the same configuration. Something to consider.

For example a base map in Oregon will not work very wel lin AZ. I have seen it on the dyno actually. And I am not talking about power either. I mean 14:1 AF and wavy power delivery. Works great in Oregon I am sure. There is no substitute for a dyno tune. That said, a base map is better than no map when you upgrade.

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Old 04-01-2005, 12:21 PM   #12
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When I switched from a base map to a custom tuned map I gained 35 wTQ, but no HP. Of course I was running 2psi less with the custom tune so reliablity greatly increased.
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Old 04-01-2005, 12:29 PM   #13
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Very very common occourance. Same thing happens when you go from street tune to dyno tune. Just saw a road tuned car generate 20 more whp when it went to the dyno. Same tuner did road and dyno. It was a VF22.

The key is you not only make more power on the dyno you also get a safer tune. I saw 2 cars make 20-30 more whp with 2# less boost when they switched from piggy back product to ECU-Tek. AF was safer and power delivery was alot more linear in nature. Same exact phenomenon mbiker97 speaks of.

Base maps are better than no map but there is absolutly no substitute for dyno time. Not all dynos are equeal in that respect either......
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Old 04-01-2005, 06:50 PM   #14
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well i would be going to GRD in chicago and the guy quoted me for around 200-250 for about 2 hours of dyno time, i thought about doing it today but backed out, hopefully next friday
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Old 04-04-2005, 09:56 AM   #15
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Hopefully this will be happening on Thursday if i can get an appointment. Do shops normally give you a printout of the Dyno, or hows that go? do they put it online?
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