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Old 04-04-2005, 02:18 PM   #1
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Question Your favourite Calgary car audio place is...

Hiya! I am this close || to getting a new audio system for the wagon. However, all I know about car audio is that the stock system [6CD in-dash] doesn't sound as nice as the setup in my dearly departed 1980 Mazda GLC. For those of you in Calgary,
  • where did you get your setup from?
  • what components did you go with?
  • who did the install, and how much did it cost?
  • where should I spend the bulk of my cash?

I'm not looking for monster subs or a pro-level setup. I use ALL of the available cargo space in the wagon, so keeping the install neat and tidy is key. I just want a nice clean sound, and a reduction in road noise. Any suggestions? Thanks!
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Old 04-04-2005, 04:20 PM   #2
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1) I have bought all my audio goodies at Audio Concepts Mobile. They deal with higher end equipment that your average future shop of visions. First off, you have to go in there and just talk with the guys (preferably Jason). They have no high pressure sales personnel and will answer all your questions.

2) I have the 6.5" Focal Slims powered by an Audison amp, great combo! I used to have 2x10" Infinity perfect subs but have taken them out and only have the front 2 speakers now, still sounds amazing.

3) For the install, I did everything myself. Labour costs for audio is $50-$60/hr, way too much for how simple it really is. If needed, I could help you install your system, it's a great learning experience and something I love to do.

4) The bulk of your cash should be spent on your front speakers, amp and a decent head unit.
Additionally, rear speakers can be added (in rear deck, not doors) a sub, and possibly upgrading your battery.
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Old 04-04-2005, 06:45 PM   #3
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Thanks! I'll definitely swing down to Audio Concepts the next chance I have. Those Focal Slims are component speakers, right? Where did you stick the tweeter? I may take you up on your offer to help with an install. Anything I can do to keep the cost down is cool with me. I can just imagine me trying to put the carpet back in with duct tape and a staple gun. I'm not sure about a new HU. I understand that running the right speakers and amp can do wonders. Then again, if you're going to do it, do it right the first time. Thanks again!

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1) I have bought all my audio goodies at Audio Concepts Mobile...
2) I have the 6.5" Focal Slims powered by an Audison amp, great combo! I used to have 2x10" Infinity perfect subs but have taken them out and only have the front 2 speakers now, still sounds amazing.

3) For the install, I did everything myself. Labour costs for audio is $50-$60/hr, way too much for how simple it really is. If needed, I could help you install your system...

4) The bulk of your cash should be spent on your front speakers, amp and a decent head unit.
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Old 04-04-2005, 08:19 PM   #4
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For your system to work properly, you will need a decent head unit. Decent as in a $300+ Alpine or equivalent. The slims are a component set and the tweets are behind the honeycomb portion of your doors, infront of the door handles.
Looking forward to the install.

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Old 04-04-2005, 10:21 PM   #5
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I second the head unit. I lived with my amp/sub/separates with the stock head unit for almost a year. It sounded muddy with sucky bass. The head unit cleaned it all up, now I'm happy.

And IMO, the biggest obstacle to good sounding audio in the WRX is the high level of drive train and road noise. I know you said you didn't want to do a big install, but a couple hundred bucks spent on RAAMat or BrownBread will deliver benefits even with the stereo off.

Oh, I did mine in stages. If I did it again, I would do it all at once so you don't have to take the interior apart multiple times. Do it all at once.
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Old 04-05-2005, 12:32 AM   #6
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Obviously I need to do more research, but I am leaning toward the HU/front speaker/amp/RAAMmat setup. We almost never have anyone in the back seat of the car, so I'll stick with the stock speakers back there. Time to do some window shopping. Thanks for the info!
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Old 04-05-2005, 03:02 AM   #7
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I love the Alpine 9835 HU. You can probably find one on special these days due to the 05 models coming in soon. It has a decent built-in EQ and crossover.

I'm running JL XR650-CSi 2-Way components in the front on a JL 300/2 Amp and by delaying the driver's side speakers by a few milliseconds using the awesome Digital Time Correction feature on the 9835 it sounds like you have surround with a center speaker that isn't there. The tweet's are mounted in the stock location and sound just fine. No point in spending extra money building A-Pillar pods IMO.

For the rear speakers I kept the stock speakers and just had them hooked up to the HU's built-in amp(26WrmsX4). The HU amp can be turned on or off from the menu. It sounds better with them turned off but it's a nice option to be able to turn them on if you have people in the back seat that like to hear more than just the subwoofer.

For subwoofer setup I have a single JL 13W7 powered by a JL 1000/1 Amp. Since you don't want a monster sub that may be a bit much, if so you might want to check out JL's W6v2 lineup. Not the cheapest subs out there but quality is not lacking.

I did none of the install myself so I can't take any credit but it ended up costing between $1600-$1700 for the install. A big chunk of that though came from having to build a custom box for the big sub. If I were you and you didn't know a ton about car audio I would spend the bulk of the cash on getting a professional install. It can make or break the quality of sound. Especially on WRX's which are not the greatest car audio vehicles in the first place. Try to find someone who has done installs on these cars before and has a good reputation. Don't just go to any local audio store and have a random guy do it. Make sure you know exactly who will do it and what kind of work he or she has done in the past. No point in buying quality gear if at the end of the day it still sounds like crap because the doors weren't deadened properly or the woofer is rattling against the doorpanel or you can't roll your window all the way down anymore (Its happened)

Hope this helps.

P.S. I'm not a JL rep......honestly lol.
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Old 04-05-2005, 11:47 AM   #8
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Christian, your nuts! How is your electrical? Much light dimming? How does you car sound, were you happy with Darcy? Next time I'm in Edmonton I'll have to check it out. That is just WAAAY to much bass for me however. I guess you did not use the H.O box, how big is your sealed box do you have any trunk space?

IMHO 2 things that are crucial for a good sounding car.
1. Sound deadening (Particularly in a Wrx a terrible interior for sound) this also adds to a more enjoyable ride with a little less road noise.
2. POWER. You can make an average speaker sound good with power and a good speaker sound bad without it.
Everything else is totally personal preference, you can't tell people what sounds good or bad as everyone has a different tastes in music and what they like. Keep in mind some speakers are definitely board friendly. Sound great on the board but the car is completely different story.
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Old 04-10-2005, 03:47 AM   #9
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Thanks to the good people at Audio Concepts Mobile, I'm leaning toward this setup:
- Apline CDA-9851 HU
- Hertz ECX165 [or ESK 165 - I can't remember which] front spk
- Audison SRX2 amp for the front
- VB2 sound deadening
- stock rear spk running off of HU power
- Monster amp cable kit
- Audison speaker wire

I am looking for decent sound quality, MP3 ability, XM/Sirius compatibility [wife's idea] and not crazy expensive. The stuff I have listed here is around $1000 + wires and tax. My biggest concern is fitting the speakers in the front doors. Is a speaker with mounting depth of 2.5" pushing the envelope? Based on what's posted here and on Scoobymods, a 3/8" spacer should work.

It seems okay - any opinions?
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Old 04-10-2005, 01:13 PM   #10
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Is sound deadening something you can do on your own or is it best to leave it to the stereo guys?

I've been thinking about doing it on my own but now that I can put my car in Valet mode I'm not as worried about taking it to an audio shop.

-J
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Old 04-10-2005, 02:28 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Jitenshakun
Is sound deadening something you can do on your own or is it best to leave it to the stereo guys?

I've been thinking about doing it on my own but now that I can put my car in Valet mode I'm not as worried about taking it to an audio shop.

-J
If you come by my place in the next couple of days, you can have a good look at what's involved. I'm in the midst of doing the white car.

Basically, you can do it yourself better than they can, unless you spend $$$$.

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Old 04-10-2005, 03:51 PM   #12
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If you are comfortable taking off panels, using a blowdryer/heat gun, roller and reinstalling panels, I would recommend doing the sound deadening yourself. Make sure you do it before you install anything though. I let the dude doing the door speakers do that part for me but I did the trunk bed, under the rear seat and some other random areas.
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