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Old 04-05-2005, 01:12 PM   #1
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Default Hmmm...mostly stock STi, modded WRX or engine swapped GC?

So this is the summer I buy a new car. The problem is, I keep going back forth on what I want.

I could get an STi, do a full exhaust, engine management and springs and be done with it. The STi offers everything I want, I would change very little.

With the same down payment, I could get a WRX for about $200 less per month. That's enough of a difference to take a hit in performance and I could always pay it off sooner. Then again, I'd probably use that extra money to do a full suspension overhaul, rims/tires, RA gearset, mild engine work...and there goes my monthly savings and resale value.
But part of the fun is putting together a car the way you want it.

Then there's the option of buying an older used car and building everything from the ground up. Limitless options, but the cost could get out of hand, NO warranty whatsoever, reliability isn't guaranteed and the car could be in the shop for days or weeks while work is done. This could potentially be the cheapest and most fun, but the unforseen problems kinda scare me. Not to mention, probably the worst resale value.

I'm looking for a reliable daily driver to have for the next 5 years. I'm leaning towards the STi, but I need some outside opionions or advice to make up my mind.
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Old 04-05-2005, 01:19 PM   #2
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Sti Sti Sti Sti
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Old 04-05-2005, 01:22 PM   #3
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You really answered your question yourself. The STi is the correct path for you.
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Old 04-05-2005, 01:23 PM   #4
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With the same down payment, I could get a WRX for about $200 less per month. That's enough of a difference to take a hit in performance and I could always pay it off sooner. Then again, I'd probably use that extra money to do a full suspension overhaul, rims/tires, RA gearset, mild engine work...and there goes my monthly savings and resale value.
Everything you say here will cost more than the difference between the WRX and STi. So you just have to decide if it will be worth it over just buying the STi.

I say buy the STi. I had big plans for my 02 rex when I had it at stage 2. By the time I had my list done for it I just bought the STi.


good luck in whatever you decide..

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Old 04-05-2005, 01:41 PM   #5
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Man, this was a lot easier when I couldn't afford anything more than a WRX. Then I got a raise, then I got another raise, then my wife got a raise and that got me thinking...

I really need to sit down and price out what I would want to do to a WRX to make it the way I want it.

Edit: came up with at least $6K to do a WRX Doinkmobb style.

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Old 04-05-2005, 01:43 PM   #6
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Then I got a raise, then I got another raise, then my wife got a raise
That just made my day.

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Old 04-05-2005, 02:23 PM   #7
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I gess you made your decision !!!
sti for sure !!!
if i had the money ? i'd buy only that car
in israel sti's dccd cost is 64,000$ what do you think ?
i had audi TTQ and one month ago i buoght WRX and i think she's better then the audi
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Old 04-05-2005, 02:48 PM   #8
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If you want something for a reliable daily driver, a high strung WRX may not be a great decision. STi's seem to be very livable and reliable.
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Old 04-05-2005, 02:49 PM   #9
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Old 04-05-2005, 02:51 PM   #10
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If you have the resources or know an STI engine that is waiting for a swap, I'd do that. A GC with an STI engine is pretty rare and would be a sleeper if I've ever seen one.
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Old 04-05-2005, 03:05 PM   #11
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STI = 5 years, reliability, fun fun car

WRX = highly modded + 5 year reliability is probably not going to happen

GC = VERY rare sti/v7/v8 swap, 5 year reliability questionable (but VERY probable if you keep any of them mostly stock), ultimate sleeper, and a insane car.


hmmmmm, if i know new then what i know now, i think i wouldve done option #3. a friend has a FULL V6 swap and it RULES!!!

search, there are a couple of full gc swaps on here. get some feedback on their experiences before making a decision. yes its going to be a little (maybe alot ) more of a headache but will the finished product be worth it? thats for you to decide. good luck.
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Old 04-05-2005, 03:07 PM   #12
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If you have the resources or know an STI engine that is waiting for a swap, I'd do that. A GC with an STI engine is pretty rare and would be a sleeper if I've ever seen one.

I've definitely thought of the rare/sleeper factor. A calm looking L with 300 HP under the hood is appealing, but I'm thinking I don't want the hassle of sourcing parts, finding someone to do the install and hoping I don't go over budget.

flicky30 - I'm not looking for a 450 HP WRX, maybe somewhere around 300 on the stock turbo. Excellent handling and a better gearbox are my main concerns.

Another option: the lightweight version WRX that is supposed to come out in Sept. Haven't heard any specs, but it's definitely a possibilty, depending on the weight and the price.
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Old 04-05-2005, 03:22 PM   #13
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STI comming from a swap guy. Though I like having no car payment.
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Old 04-05-2005, 03:22 PM   #14
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if you can afford it, then get the sti. it will cost you more than that over the long run if you decided to mod your way past sti levels
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Old 04-05-2005, 06:00 PM   #15
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You could always just get a WRX and do a Cobb Stage 2 or something to get up to 285 bhp if that would satisfy you for only around $1700. But yeah, if you can comfortably afford an STI, that would probably be the way to go.
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Old 04-05-2005, 06:21 PM   #16
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"I could get an STi, do a full exhaust, engine management and springs and be done with it. The STi offers everything I want, I would change very little. "


Haha... famous last words.

I said that about my rex, said i was gonna leave it stock, that lasted about 36 hours
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Old 04-05-2005, 06:24 PM   #17
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sti, it's good right out of the box. a modded wrx will suck in comparison (unless you do a swap like me) and if you want reliability a swap (esp in a GC) will not be a good choice

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Old 04-05-2005, 06:26 PM   #18
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I love my WRX.... stage 4 is nice... but it's not an STi. I should have got an STi. : P

My best advice, make sure you get what you really want the first time. Trading in a new car shortly after purchase costs a heck of a lot.
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Old 04-06-2005, 10:16 AM   #19
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"I could get an STi, do a full exhaust, engine management and springs and be done with it. The STi offers everything I want, I would change very little. "


Haha... famous last words.

I said that about my rex, said i was gonna leave it stock, that lasted about 36 hours

Yeah I know, but I hope I can fight the temptation. The only stuff I changed on my L was the stuff that NEEDED to be replaced like blown struts, crappy tires and anemic brakes.
Ok well, the other things I'd change on an STi would be new rims, JDM fogs and maybe a trunk swap - nothing major.

The best part is my wife told me if I want a STi, I should get one. Awesome-O 4000.
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Old 04-06-2005, 03:38 PM   #20
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Yeah I know, but I hope I can fight the temptation. The only stuff I changed on my L was the stuff that NEEDED to be replaced like blown struts, crappy tires and anemic brakes.
Ok well, the other things I'd change on an STi would be new rims, JDM fogs and maybe a trunk swap - nothing major.

The best part is my wife told me if I want a STi, I should get one. Awesome-O 4000.
Honestly, I put a catless DP on mine and was shocked at the power gains, the people who are going Cobb Stg 2 are saying it's ridiculously fast.... So much so that I'm definately working out the suspension quirks and waiting for the warranty to expire before I go EM..

I just don't need that much extra power out of the box, it's already faster then almost everything else on the road..

although i am dying for a trunk swap myself (wingless CGM anyone, anyone?), and the JDM fogs are soooo purdy..
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Old 04-06-2005, 04:36 PM   #21
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Yea actually the wrx is gone But i did buy this last week to replace it It has a full 02 JDM wrx drivetrain
Do this!! except make it a JDM engine/driveline
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Old 04-06-2005, 07:46 PM   #22
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No i wouldn't recommend buyin a Rs and doin the swap, You need to know exactly what your doing and you have to get alotttttaaa things and you will most likely not be very reliable.... its alotta time, alotta money, alotta knowledge, its just a hassle.
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Old 04-07-2005, 10:02 AM   #23
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No i wouldn't recommend buyin a Rs and doin the swap, You need to know exactly what your doing and you have to get alotttttaaa things and you will most likely not be very reliable.... its alotta time, alotta money, alotta knowledge, its just a hassle.

Some day, when I have a garage and all the right tools and the time to source all the parts I need, I'll mess around with an engine swap. For now, I need a complete package, so the STi seems like the logical choice.
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:14 AM   #24
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No i wouldn't recommend buyin a Rs and doin the swap, You need to know exactly what your doing and you have to get alotttttaaa things and you will most likely not be very reliable.... its alotta time, alotta money, alotta knowledge, its just a hassle.
There are a few shops out there that can do OEM quality swaps. Though if you have problems you're going to be up sht creek for the most part.
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