my engein is making really loud ticking noise!!

sjtangb21 · 03-21-2005, 11:23 PM

anyone else have the same problem?? anything i can do? changing the lifter?
cg

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Storm · 03-22-2005, 12:10 AM

Depends on the year and model motor. Any more info that might help?

Jay Storm

Protege Menace · 03-22-2005, 02:30 AM

ticking... as in pinging/knocking or like something is rubbing against the fan or something...

Aphex28 · 03-22-2005, 07:47 AM

Note: Vague descriptions beget vague answers.

We can't help you if you aren't more detailed in your make/model/location/year and problem

Boost-Free Subee · 03-22-2005, 08:36 AM

you will get a ticking noise from your valvetrain if you are low on oil. check your oil. Generally, if no one has gone into your heads, you shouldn't need a valve lash adjustment. If someone has been into your heads for cams, etc, it could be your valve lash. A better description of the problem would get better answers.

sjtangb21 · 03-22-2005, 09:55 AM

ok sorry guys. it's a 1996 subaru impezra 2.2 liter and a 5 spd. it has about 107k miles on it. i always fill the oil, and i don't think anyone has done and internal work with my car. no matter what rpm or even just idel. makes this loud noise, not knocking, but closer to pinging. like tik tic tic tic tic tic. sounds like the lifter?

Mulder · 03-22-2005, 09:56 AM

"Ticking" can be from injectors, lifters, rods, wrist pins etc. So, it could be anything from minor/meaningless to imminent failure. Even if you do post more info there is no way we can tell you for sure over the Internet what is wrong with your car. You should take it to a local dealer or shop that specializes in Subarus and have it diagnosed properly.

Aphex28 · 03-22-2005, 10:19 AM

Do you have any aftermarket upgrades? I have headers and they make a tic tic noise.. but they're supposed to do that.

There is a great multitude of things it could be.

Throwout bearing
Timing belt tensioner
Exhaust leak
Piston Slap - which I do not think is happening

sjtangb21 · 03-22-2005, 10:23 AM

no aftermarket at all. it's more like TIC TIC TIC loud!!!

greg donovan · 03-22-2005, 11:44 AM

time to change the oil. you probaly have a clogged oil passage.

my wagon will do this when the oil needs to be changed even if its full.

Tim Sanderson · 03-22-2005, 12:39 PM

What maintenance have you done or have had done if any?

Is it my turn to guess? ok. here goes.

t-belt tensioner or stuck hydraulic lash adjuster.

sjtangb21 · 03-22-2005, 05:31 PM

replace oil every 3000k. not sure what it is. just want o fix it for cheap. other wise i don't want to spand money, it is my beater. thanks for the infor guys
shi jie

Impretzle · 03-22-2005, 08:27 PM

Perhaps its a good time to invest in an automotive stethoscope... they can be very useful for tracking down noises.

another thing you can do is put a pipe up to your ear, then put the other end on various spots on the car, to track the noise down... a sound clip and beter description of the sound would also help

Does it increase as RPM's go up? Is it louder when you first start the car?

Try having someone put their hand over the tailpipe so you can track down any exhaust leaks..

edit: one other thing, with the car running and you under the hood, rev the engine by manually operating the throttle butterfly, while looking around / listening... check the crank pulley and other junk.

Also you said the car has 107k on it, with no internal work... If the timing belt hasn't been done already, it definetely needs to be done.

Good luck

greg donovan · 03-23-2005, 01:10 AM

since it is your "beater" i wouldnt bother fixing it. just make sure the T-Belt is ok and it is full of fresh oils and you should be fine.

key word in that sentence being SHOULD.

paulpas · 03-23-2005, 10:39 AM

Mine ticked until I put in 10w30 Mobile 1 oil in my EJ25.

Nicklbrso · 03-23-2005, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulpas

Mine ticked until I put in 10w30 Mobile 1 oil in my EJ25.

could thinner oil like 5w-30 mobil 1 cause a tick? would 10w-30 help?

t3hWIT · 03-23-2005, 05:33 PM

i have a 97 2.2 and mine ticks, esp when idleing. i get all kinds of weird nises idleing, like that ticking, some kind of screeching(loose belt?), etc. i also had a "warbling" noise too, but that was the AC(bearings were going). the solution to that was to cut te belt for the AC. as far as the rest goes, im not worrying about it. its got 108,000 miles on it, but i am planning on looking into it with a stethoscope.

oil used is 10w30 high rpm synthetic blend, that new stuff from Quaker State, filter is Bosch. not that that should mean anything, but in case anyone was wondering.

t3hWIT · 03-23-2005, 05:36 PM

oh yeah. my problem is not an exhaust leak. my exhaust is leaking(fixing soon) but not aroudn the engine. i was told about sticking lifters or something by a friend(and it might have been mentioned above) but I'm not worrying about it. in 3 years, after i get out of PennTech, im ripping the engine out for something better. for now it just has to get me from here to there.

sjtangb21 · 03-23-2005, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impretzle

Perhaps its a good time to invest in an automotive stethoscope... they can be very useful for tracking down noises.

another thing you can do is put a pipe up to your ear, then put the other end on various spots on the car, to track the noise down... a sound clip and beter description of the sound would also help

Does it increase as RPM's go up? Is it louder when you first start the car?

Try having someone put their hand over the tailpipe so you can track down any exhaust leaks..

edit: one other thing, with the car running and you under the hood, rev the engine by manually operating the throttle butterfly, while looking around / listening... check the crank pulley and other junk.

Also you said the car has 107k on it, with no internal work... If the timing belt hasn't been done already, it definetely needs to be done.

Good luck

it's from the left side of the bottom of the engine and below the pass side sparkplug. it's loud when you start the car. and if i give gas it's even louder.
shi jie

Impretzle · 03-28-2005, 02:09 AM

Something else occured to me... Could it be the airbox being loose? Mine was loose and made some weird squeaking noises.

ChicksDigWagons · 03-28-2005, 02:42 AM

My vote is a collapsed HLA. 96 was the last year of the hydraulic lash adjusters, and if they stop "pumping up" then you'll get a nice loud clicking sound coming from the valve cover.

How does it run otherwise? With a collapsed HLA you might be a little down on power but its not really catastrophic.

The good news is the 96 is non interference, but I'd still check the timing belt tensioner before it does this: In retrospect mine was making a lot of ticking and other strange noises before it finally exploded.

happyparrot · 03-28-2005, 03:46 AM

I had the same problem, for me it was the valve clearance. Here is how I fixed it: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...nce+adjustment

Storm · 03-28-2005, 07:10 AM

I wish someone would post a PN or source for this magical tool to change shims in the car without removing the cams......I am desperately due for an adjustment.....

Jay Storm

t3hWIT · 03-28-2005, 10:44 AM

seeing how much work is involved in fixing the annoying noise, i think ill just deal with it. my L's my first car (see "beater") and only has to last me 3 more years til im out of tech school.

then ill buy an RS. and mod the f*** out of it.

DragonRM · 03-28-2005, 02:13 PM

maybe someone planted a time bomb that only ticks down when you drive the car

03-21-2005, 11:23 PM	#1
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03-22-2005, 12:10 AM	#2
Storm Scooby Guru Member#: 5218 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: SAUL'S Motorsports Vehicle: 96L Most Over- Developed Beater	Depends on the year and model motor. Any more info that might help? Jay Storm

03-22-2005, 02:30 AM	#3
Protege Menace Scooby Specialist Member#: 41950 Join Date: Aug 2003 Chapter/Region: International Location: www.faqurug.com Vehicle: faq u rug ♔	ticking... as in pinging/knocking or like something is rubbing against the fan or something...

03-22-2005, 07:47 AM	#4
Aphex28 Scooby Specialist Member#: 11506 Join Date: Oct 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Pepperell, MA Vehicle: 2000 Silver RS swap thingy. USDM STI goodness	Note: Vague descriptions beget vague answers. We can't help you if you aren't more detailed in your make/model/location/year and problem

03-22-2005, 08:36 AM	#5
Boost-Free Subee Scooby Specialist Member#: 61052 Join Date: May 2004 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Nashua, NH Vehicle: 1999 2.5 RS White	you will get a ticking noise from your valvetrain if you are low on oil. check your oil. Generally, if no one has gone into your heads, you shouldn't need a valve lash adjustment. If someone has been into your heads for cams, etc, it could be your valve lash. A better description of the problem would get better answers.

03-22-2005, 09:55 AM	#6
sjtangb21 Scooby Newbie Member#: 83433 Join Date: Mar 2005	ok sorry guys. it's a 1996 subaru impezra 2.2 liter and a 5 spd. it has about 107k miles on it. i always fill the oil, and i don't think anyone has done and internal work with my car. no matter what rpm or even just idel. makes this loud noise, not knocking, but closer to pinging. like tik tic tic tic tic tic. sounds like the lifter?

03-22-2005, 09:56 AM	#7
Mulder Trust no one Moderator Member#: 11170 Join Date: Oct 2001 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NYC Vehicle: 02 WRX 05 GTO/11 Sonata(!)	"Ticking" can be from injectors, lifters, rods, wrist pins etc. So, it could be anything from minor/meaningless to imminent failure. Even if you do post more info there is no way we can tell you for sure over the Internet what is wrong with your car. You should take it to a local dealer or shop that specializes in Subarus and have it diagnosed properly.

03-22-2005, 10:19 AM	#8
Aphex28 Scooby Specialist Member#: 11506 Join Date: Oct 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Pepperell, MA Vehicle: 2000 Silver RS swap thingy. USDM STI goodness	Do you have any aftermarket upgrades? I have headers and they make a tic tic noise.. but they're supposed to do that. There is a great multitude of things it could be. Throwout bearing Timing belt tensioner Exhaust leak Piston Slap - which I do not think is happening

03-22-2005, 10:23 AM	#9
sjtangb21 Scooby Newbie Member#: 83433 Join Date: Mar 2005	no aftermarket at all. it's more like TIC TIC TIC loud!!!

03-22-2005, 11:44 AM	#10
greg donovan Scooby Specialist Member#: 60743 Join Date: Apr 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Fargo, ND Vehicle: '95 Impreza L dirty and on jack stands	time to change the oil. you probaly have a clogged oil passage. my wagon will do this when the oil needs to be changed even if its full.

03-22-2005, 12:39 PM	#11
Tim Sanderson Scooby Guru Member#: 6486 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: S.E. wisconsin Vehicle: 00 Impreza 2.5 RS Blue Ridge Pearl	What maintenance have you done or have had done if any? Is it my turn to guess? ok. here goes. t-belt tensioner or stuck hydraulic lash adjuster.

03-22-2005, 05:31 PM	#12
sjtangb21 Scooby Newbie Member#: 83433 Join Date: Mar 2005	replace oil every 3000k. not sure what it is. just want o fix it for cheap. other wise i don't want to spand money, it is my beater. thanks for the infor guys shi jie

03-22-2005, 08:27 PM	#13
Impretzle Scooby Newbie Member#: 74900 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oakland, CA Vehicle: 1995 Impreza L 1.8 N/A (No acceleration)	Perhaps its a good time to invest in an automotive stethoscope... they can be very useful for tracking down noises. another thing you can do is put a pipe up to your ear, then put the other end on various spots on the car, to track the noise down... a sound clip and beter description of the sound would also help Does it increase as RPM's go up? Is it louder when you first start the car? Try having someone put their hand over the tailpipe so you can track down any exhaust leaks.. edit: one other thing, with the car running and you under the hood, rev the engine by manually operating the throttle butterfly, while looking around / listening... check the crank pulley and other junk. Also you said the car has 107k on it, with no internal work... If the timing belt hasn't been done already, it definetely needs to be done. Good luck

03-23-2005, 01:10 AM	#14
greg donovan Scooby Specialist Member#: 60743 Join Date: Apr 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Fargo, ND Vehicle: '95 Impreza L dirty and on jack stands	since it is your "beater" i wouldnt bother fixing it. just make sure the T-Belt is ok and it is full of fresh oils and you should be fine. key word in that sentence being SHOULD.

03-23-2005, 10:39 AM	#15
paulpas Scooby Newbie Member#: 83650 Join Date: Mar 2005	Mine ticked until I put in 10w30 Mobile 1 oil in my EJ25.

03-23-2005, 05:33 PM	#17
t3hWIT Scooby Guru Member#: 58779 Join Date: Apr 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: ** Town Vehicle:** 95 WRX RA replica, 98 Tacoma (300k Club)	i have a 97 2.2 and mine ticks, esp when idleing. i get all kinds of weird nises idleing, like that ticking, some kind of screeching(loose belt?), etc. i also had a "warbling" noise too, but that was the AC(bearings were going). the solution to that was to cut te belt for the AC. as far as the rest goes, im not worrying about it. its got 108,000 miles on it, but i am planning on looking into it with a stethoscope. oil used is 10w30 high rpm synthetic blend, that new stuff from Quaker State, filter is Bosch. not that that should mean anything, but in case anyone was wondering.

03-23-2005, 05:36 PM	#18
t3hWIT Scooby Guru Member#: 58779 Join Date: Apr 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: ** Town Vehicle:** 95 WRX RA replica, 98 Tacoma (300k Club)	oh yeah. my problem is not an exhaust leak. my exhaust is leaking(fixing soon) but not aroudn the engine. i was told about sticking lifters or something by a friend(and it might have been mentioned above) but I'm not worrying about it. in 3 years, after i get out of PennTech, im ripping the engine out for something better. for now it just has to get me from here to there.

03-28-2005, 02:09 AM	#20
Impretzle Scooby Newbie Member#: 74900 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oakland, CA Vehicle: 1995 Impreza L 1.8 N/A (No acceleration)	Something else occured to me... Could it be the airbox being loose? Mine was loose and made some weird squeaking noises.

03-28-2005, 02:42 AM	#21
ChicksDigWagons Scooby Specialist Member#: 20508 Join Date: Jun 2002 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Ishpeming, MI Vehicle: 1998 Red Wagon New Turbo Project...	My vote is a collapsed HLA. 96 was the last year of the hydraulic lash adjusters, and if they stop "pumping up" then you'll get a nice loud clicking sound coming from the valve cover. How does it run otherwise? With a collapsed HLA you might be a little down on power but its not really catastrophic. The good news is the 96 is non interference, but I'd still check the timing belt tensioner before it does this: In retrospect mine was making a lot of ticking and other strange noises before it finally exploded.

03-28-2005, 03:46 AM	#22
happyparrot Scooby Newbie Member#: 61896 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kirkland, Wa. Vehicle: 1998 2.5rs S/C RBP	I had the same problem, for me it was the valve clearance. Here is how I fixed it: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...nce+adjustment

03-28-2005, 07:10 AM	#23
Storm Scooby Guru Member#: 5218 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: SAUL'S Motorsports Vehicle: 96L Most Over- Developed Beater	I wish someone would post a PN or source for this magical tool to change shims in the car without removing the cams......I am desperately due for an adjustment..... Jay Storm

03-28-2005, 10:44 AM	#24
t3hWIT Scooby Guru Member#: 58779 Join Date: Apr 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: ** Town Vehicle:** 95 WRX RA replica, 98 Tacoma (300k Club)	seeing how much work is involved in fixing the annoying noise, i think ill just deal with it. my L's my first car (see "beater") and only has to last me 3 more years til im out of tech school. then ill buy an RS. and mod the f*** out of it.

03-28-2005, 02:13 PM	#25
DragonRM Scooby Specialist Member#: 14365 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Avondale, AZ (was in Denver) Vehicle: 2000 2.5rs Silverish :D	maybe someone planted a time bomb that only ticks down when you drive the car