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Old 04-06-2005, 03:59 AM   #1
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I was just wondering how hard is it to sell your subis (if you ever want to sell them in the first place). Because the resale value of these cars arent as demanding as other brands, it makes it a bit harder. Also, because its modded, i think it would increase the difficulty of getting it off your hands. So whats your opinion guys?
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Old 04-06-2005, 07:14 AM   #2
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I was just wondering how hard is it to sell your subis (if you ever want to sell them in the first place). Because the resale value of these cars arent as demanding as other brands, it makes it a bit harder. Also, because its modded, i think it would increase the difficulty of getting it off your hands. So whats your opinion guys?
You are wrong on the resale. Subarus hold their value very well for a Japanese brand. IIRC last year for the first time, Subaru had a higher resale value than Honda.

It's not very hard to sell a modded car because you will always be able to find some 16 year old willing to kill themselves.
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:48 AM   #3
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The hassle of selling out-right has always turned me off, so I just trade the car in once clean wholesale matches what I owe on the car. Depending on the make and model of the vehicle, and the deal it was purchased for, that can happen as soon as 1 year (like on my S2000, tho' I kept it for 2 years). I have a feeling it's going to take me 3 years to come out of the Subie, and I'm keeping all my OEM take-off stuff for that very purpose.

When you trade a car in you get NOTHING for high-dollar after-market wheels, tires, stereo stuff, painted rockers, blah blah blah.

If you plan to retail the car out-right yourself you may make a of your money back, but don't bet on it. Best to return the car to stock, then sell all the goodies .
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Old 04-06-2005, 09:56 AM   #4
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My opinion mirrors most of the people I know....they see a car they are interested in and then they find out it's been modded and immediately they lose interest in it. The average buyer wants NOTHING to do with a modded vehicle, because it usually means the vehicle has been rodded and is now a less reliable vehicle than factory spec. Now if you can find an enthusiast you might have better luck selling it, but you aren't going to get squat for the money you've poured into the car, you might recoup as ulitmatelurker has said 1/4 of what you put into it.
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Old 04-06-2005, 10:33 AM   #5
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When you mod your car, you will get lower resale than stock when dealing with 99% of the market. Because, 99% of the market will want nothing to do with your car, and see it as less valuable than a stock car. 1% of the market will value your modifications and pay a very small premium for them. That means your car will sit on the market for a very long time before you find that 1% who values your modifications.

So, the lesson is... If you ever plan on selling your car, you should keep all your stock parts. Part out all of your parts for 50% of the new price, and then sell your car as stock. Requires the most effort, but produces the most money!
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Old 04-06-2005, 08:47 PM   #6
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So i get less money if i trade in a modded subi than a stock subi... IF the car sales want a modded one in the first place. But problem with pulling everything out is that i dunno how to wield stuff to cars... So i need to pay ppl to do it in a garage. When i do upgrade stuff to the car, should i ask for the stock stuff back or just let them throw it away? Also, I was planning to make some gizmo's to the car like those start-up buttons, those cant be pulled off as you need to cut a piece of panel for it...
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Old 04-06-2005, 11:59 PM   #7
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Part of whether you should de-mod your car might depend on the mods themselves. I've put in a few basic mods like UP/DP, SS brake Lines, Perrin Shifter, rear sway, F/R endlinks. Will I bother pulling any of it out? After 3-5 years, there won't be much point. I probably wouldn't bother mentioning these parts if I was selling it. It's sold as-is, and I would try and get a fair price for it. I would imagine that most of the benefit of returning your car to stock would be if the mods were new and you didn't have the car that long in the first place. I don't think anyone is going to want a 3 yr old PDE catless DP. If it's 6-12 months old, that's a different story. IMHO.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:49 AM   #8
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sell the car in Vermont....I see more subies in one morning on the way to work (15 miles) than i would in a month back in West Michigan.
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Old 04-07-2005, 12:58 AM   #9
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never throw away stock parts! They can alwasy be sold or better yet kept for when you sell it.

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Old 04-07-2005, 01:03 AM   #10
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I agree with some of the above folks.. if I'm looking at a used car and I see lots of mods, I just turn around and walk away.. in my mind if a car has been heavily modded, it, most likely, has been beat on, and I just want no part of that..

Hence while older RX7s, MR2s, Supras (and a few others) are really tempting I'll never pick up a used one..
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Old 04-07-2005, 01:20 AM   #11
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I'm thinking of putting CAI, UP/DP, cam shafts, and exhaust. Most of the things are highly noticeable when you drive the car (especially the exhaust and CAI). If I ever want to sell it in the distant future for a trade in, should i take it off or keep it on and trade it?
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Old 04-07-2005, 01:28 AM   #12
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stay away from the CAI all together.

But the UP/Down and exhaust are all pretty easy to take off. the upipe is the only one thats a bitch.

Dunno much about cam shafts...

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Old 04-07-2005, 02:24 AM   #13
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stawy from CAI, as in DO NOT GET IT or DO NOT REMOVE IT?
I was thinking something like Borla Headers, COBB Downpipe, and COBB Catback. Camshaft might come later but i think ill give that camshaft away for free when i think its time to sell that car XD
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Old 04-07-2005, 10:35 AM   #14
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don't ever get a CAI, it's a waste of money. the 10 degree difference in incoming air temp won't matter when the turbo bakes it.

most people get bolt on mods, i'm not sure what you want to weld on. and, most people remove their bolt on mods except for up-pipe when they sell the car. because the up-pipe is a bizniatch to put in and remove. you can't see it anyways.
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:01 AM   #15
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Man, just how many people on this site are confused? How many times have I heard that the colder temp via a CAI won't make any difference because the turbo "bakes" the air anyway? From Guru's I've heard this.

Bull****.

Get out your physics books boys, you're confused. 10 cooler is 10 cooler, the turbo won't "bake" the incoming air to a specific temp no matter what the ambient temp is, what the hell are you guys thinking?

I'm not saying that a CAI is good for the car, all I'm saying is that cooler temps make more power. The specific design is the problem with the CAI's on the market, not the fact that they pull in colder air.
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:14 AM   #16
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Ack this thread got highjacked quick! I heard all about the dangers of the dreaded CAI thanks to everyone from this site... over and over and over.

What I would like to hear a bit more about are peoples experiences selling or buying modded cars.
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Old 04-07-2005, 11:31 AM   #17
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Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread...
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:03 PM   #18
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don't ever get a CAI, it's a waste of money. the 10 degree difference in incoming air temp won't matter when the turbo bakes it.

most people get bolt on mods, i'm not sure what you want to weld on. and, most people remove their bolt on mods except for up-pipe when they sell the car. because the up-pipe is a bizniatch to put in and remove. you can't see it anyways.
Um... first of all, since I was asking about the resale value of car when the car is modified before. Second, If your talking about my car, its a EJ25, not a 20 or 25T, so no turbo. CAI would benefit from that...

I was thinking about wielding the bolt on pieces because I've heard some nasty things about the bolt on came loose and created a mess. So I was thinking instead of bolting it on like normally, actually wield it into place. But thats my crazy ideas...

Back to resale value of subis. Don't the retailers know that the car has been modded before by thebolt on holes and the trail they leave behind it??? Wouln't that make the care less valuable?
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1. for your car cai will help, make sure you get the proper diameter piping.
2. i have never heard of anyone's bolt ons falling apart.
3. if you're that worried about resale, then don't do any permanent mods. don't do any mods that will leave a trail or holes. you can go up to stage 4 and return it to stock without leaving a trail
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What he said. Bolt-on is just that, bolt-on, and un-bolted just as easily. I wouldn't weld anything on at all, if you have to do that, skip it.
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:39 PM   #21
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It took me about 3 months to sell my 01 2.5RS. It had $9000 in mods on it when I 1st put it up for sale. I ended up taking most of the mods off and putting it back to it's slow self.

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You are wrong on the resale. Subarus hold their value very well for a Japanese brand. IIRC last year for the first time, Subaru had a higher resale value than Honda.

It's not very hard to sell a modded car because you will always be able to find some 16 year old willing to kill themselves.
I had a guy on Saturday offer me $ 26,000 in cash for my car because his son was with him and wanted my car !!! But hey the old spoiled rich 16 yr old kid !!!
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So i get less money if i trade in a modded subi than a stock subi... IF the car sales want a modded one in the first place. But problem with pulling everything out is that i dunno how to wield stuff to cars... So i need to pay ppl to do it in a garage. When i do upgrade stuff to the car, should i ask for the stock stuff back or just let them throw it away? Also, I was planning to make some gizmo's to the car like those start-up buttons, those cant be pulled off as you need to cut a piece of panel for it...
A start button...in a TS?


Sorry, but that's funny.
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that's how I sold my modded car, and how I got my WRX
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Jesse00: I don't think your N/A will benefit too much from a UP or DP.

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