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Old 04-11-2005, 09:36 PM   #1
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Default 2000-2004 Legacy iON Sport Spec lowering springs

On the weekend of Feb. 19th 2005, I had the privelage to install KYB GR2 struts & iON Performance Sport Spec springs on my wife's 2002 Legacy sedan.

Here is some info on the springs:

iON Performance Sport Spec lowering springs for the 2000-2004 USDM Subaru Legacy Sedan.

Spring Rates are as follows: (under compression)
(Front) @1" : 145lb/in @2" : 265lb/in
(Rear) @1" : 125lb/in @2" : 215lb/in

~+18% stiffer than stock Legacy L sedan springs.
~+14-15% stiffer than stock Legacy GT sedan springs.


These mount to the USDM stock front top hats (no need to swap to Impreza mounts like you do for other brand springs). The drop is rated at roughly 1.18" front, 1" rear on stock struts.

I highly suggest you contact iON Performance if you're looking for the best lowering springs for a 3rd Generation BE Legacy. Jack is very helpful and timely in his resposnes. We've had great exprience with them in the past sourcing parts for our Legacy.

Here's some info on the struts:
KYB GR-2 Premium Shocks and Struts are specially designed to provide a smooth, secure ride with excellent control for drivers who are looking for ride comfort and improved handling. With its patented check valve, the GR-2 Premium Shocks and Struts always maintain excellent performance under even the roughest conditions. It also provides comfort and control that is often better than original equipment. GR-2 Premium Shocks and Struts are available for virtually all vehicles on the road today.

They are rated at a ~+10-15% dampening increase over stock.

Here's the results (pics turned out darker than I had hoped):

revised 12/18/2009 to have pics




Pics here

The drop measured after install and now last weekend 04/09/2005 was 1-1/8" front 1" rear drop.

The car also has a whiteline rear swaybar, we left it at the softest setting to feel what the suspension improved. The car handles very well. It still absorbs the bumps almost like stock yet corners much flatter and turn-in is much crisper.

My wife is rather picky and they got her vote of approval. She was concerned with comfort, but it is a non issue. These are almost deceptive as they handle so well, yet ride so nice. She couldn't be happier and that's good as it's her daily driver and all mods have been her own doing/choice.

We both highly recommend them to anyone considering a suspension upgrade for their Legacy. You honestly can't go wrong. They even work well without rubbing or any issue on her 15x7" winter wheels running oversized 215/60-16 snow tires.

*December 2005 update* Have mild rubbing issues this season with a loaded car with the 15x7" snow setup with oversized tires. Mainly due to the low offset winter wheels +43 (not ideal for subaru) would work fine with any proper offset wheel.

Other than that, things are going great. Car handles like a dream and still looks amazing. Going for wider summer tires in the spring and will post updated pics.

If you have any questions/comments feel free to ask away.

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Old 04-11-2005, 10:15 PM   #2
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hot hot hot!

hood == oem baja turbo or aftermarket?
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Old 04-11-2005, 10:26 PM   #3
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baja oem.
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Old 04-11-2005, 10:27 PM   #4
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baja oem.
word, thinking about this, but seems as if aftermarket carbonfiber/fiberglass is cheaper/same price...fibuz confused.
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Old 04-11-2005, 11:44 PM   #5
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Good info, thanks. Perhaps they will have a lowering solution for the '05 Baja.
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Old 04-12-2005, 12:23 AM   #6
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Wow, Omaha, that looks so sweet. Congrats, looks awesome.

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Old 04-12-2005, 07:54 AM   #7
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Thanks for the compliments. I'll pass them along to my wife as everything this car is her own choice. I can only get credit for installation for most of the parts and for helping her get bit by the mod bug.

I'm redoing the seats in leather right now. Have everything done except the front seats. After that... we're hoping to do an engine swap. As to which engine, we're still debating. We're considering doing something a bit different.
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:25 AM   #8
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Sweetness Omaha!!! I like the look a lot. How long did the install take you??
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:30 AM   #9
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omaha,
great setup. I think i'm going for GR-2's as well.
did you get any install pics? did you reuse your top hats or buy new ones?
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Old 04-12-2005, 10:38 AM   #10
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word, thinking about this, but seems as if aftermarket carbonfiber/fiberglass is cheaper/same price...fibuz confused.
fibuz: do you have any numbers on the subject? i thought the baja hood was ~$300+
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:13 AM   #11
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fibuz: do you have any numbers on the subject? i thought the baja hood was ~$300+
300 for hood, 100 for 'hood scoop insert'....pretty much comes out to $380 shipped from subaruparts before paint/install.

i've found a couple CF/FG hoods for about the same price...but then again people say they have fitament issues with the aftermarket ones...
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where do you find that? I'm looking on their site + can't locate it.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:42 AM   #13
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where do you find that? I'm looking on their site + can't locate it.
checking part numbers again, hold.
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Old 04-12-2005, 11:47 AM   #14
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Suggested retail price is 339.95+106.53...but subaruparts offer it for $259.04+81.18

57220AE01A Hood Compl F $339.95 $259.04 $259.04
90821AE020NN Grille F Hood $106.53 $81.18 $81.18
Subtotal: $340.22
Shipping: $40.83
Total: $381.05

sorry to omaha for the thread hijack, but your hood is so sexy

edit: heres the link to the most complete source for aftermarket hoods that i've found: http://www.andysautosport.com/produc...ior&scat=Hoods

note the FG is $329, and the CF range from 450-650...

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Old 04-12-2005, 12:21 PM   #15
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Lookin' good omaha. Lowered BE = win.

fibuz: I've had the same concerns about the Erebuni stuff. An aluminum B4 hood would be ideal, but they're hard to get. If i go carbon, it'll be a Seibon.
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You can't get the hood from Subaruparts. Contact them and you'll see they don't ship big/hard parts. So you'll have to go to your local dealer. I get a discount as one of the local dealerships sponsors our local subaru club so the hood was about $260 and scoop was around $75. I went ahead and got the scoop backing plate too, but not the ducting.

Install was about 2.5 hours, but I do suspension work alot. I reused the stock top hats. For me the fronts are a cinche as they are just like all the Impreza's I've worked on, takes longer to compress the springs than it does to swap the parts out. Rears were new to me, the bottom bolts were a pain to break loose, but other than that it was pretty straight forward.

I didn't take any install pics... I had planned to though, just didn't work out.

If you need a pic of something in particular, let me know.
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Thanks Jack.

I'm finishing up the interior this weekend... now she just needs more power (engine swap time) the intake & cat-back just aren't cutting it.

Will either be an EJ255 FXT/BajaT set-up or perhaps an EZ30/R N/A build.
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very nice! whats the wheel size for the wheels on the car in the pics?

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Wondering where you got the Factory Spring rate info to compare? I don't have the rates for the Sedan but for the BH (Wagon) the factory rates direct from Subaru are as follows:

Front 18.9 - 23.8 N/mm (107.9 - 135.9 lb/in)
Rear 39.2 - 42.6 N/mm (223.8 - 243.3 lb/in)

Both L & GT's have the same front springs - Rears are different. Our (Subaru USA's) specifications only show ranges not induvidual rates. Front springs only vary between AT and MT. Front and Rear struts/shocks are common between models (i.e. L & GT)

The above is straight from Subaru and took quite a few e-mails to pry out of them. I would be supprised to find the Sedan rates very different (maybe in the rear). The way you've stated the spring rates is a bit hard to understand -[either they are increasing rate springs with a hell of a slope or they are decreasing rate springs and that doesn't make any sense) but in any case they don't seem to track with the above stock rates and the increases you state (considering the L & GT only have different rear rates, fronts the same).

Just wondering?

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ADirtyLegacy - 17x7.5" Rota Battle's wrapped in 215/45-17 Kumho 711's. Should have went with much wider tires.

kbrate - You'll have to ask iON. I posted the specs they gave me.
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ADirtyLegacy - 17x7.5" Rota Battle's wrapped in 215/45-17 Kumho 711's. Should have went with much wider tires.

kbrate - You'll have to ask iON. I posted the specs they gave me.
cool, i'm thinking about some Tarmac IIs in 17. i know you can go 225, but how about 245? ya can NEVER have enough grip!!!

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kbrate - The factory springs rates are measured at different compression heights. And as such reference points are different. Our springs are designed with the roads of N.America in mind, function over form is our motto.

ADirtyLegacy - 235/40/17's are probably ok. 245's are possible with some fender rolling & correct offset wheels.
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omaha,
I checked ion's web site, but I couldn't find the price on your suspension. Do you have a direct link, or could you tell me how much you paid for it? Thanks!

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97legacygt - Do you have a BE/BH or a BL/BP? If so, we're actually holding a GB
Link to GB:
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