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Old 04-18-2005, 11:20 AM   #1
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Who has the best exhaust for the Baja Turbo? Were do i get it? Do we have pictures?

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Old 04-18-2005, 01:42 PM   #2
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Who has the best exhaust for the Baja Turbo? Were do i get it? Do we have pictures?

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Best as in best looking or performance?

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Old 04-18-2005, 01:47 PM   #3
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Yes, and all of the above
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Old 04-18-2005, 02:31 PM   #4
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I think the xcelleration/randomtech system is one of the few turbo back on the market. I'd like to see that system with either a dual tip muffler or a hidden/pointed down style from Borla. VA exhaust laws are getting stupid so stealth is key.

It would be interesting to see some results of an uppipe & downpipe combo versus a full 3" back setup.
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Old 04-18-2005, 05:33 PM   #5
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as far as i know, xcceleration/random tech are the only ones that have a tbe specifically for the baja, however, you can mix and match if you want catless
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Old 04-18-2005, 08:13 PM   #6
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Cool! I was googling all over for a Baja-specific exhaust. I live in Southern California and have to retain an OEM cat. Do you know of any other Baja-specific exhausts? Not that Xcelleration/Random Tech doesn't have the pimp juice, I just want to know my other options.

On a stock turbo, I wonder if it would be better to get the 2.5" cat back over the 3" cat back? The 3" cat back is only $20 more, however! Maybe I should do the 3" in anticipation of future performance upgrades?

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Old 04-18-2005, 09:43 PM   #7
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i bought the xcceleration/random tech tbe about a month and a half ago... i have to say, it was worth every penny! the install was a piece of cake, everything fit great - and the sound - wow, does it sound good! its not too loud, but not too quiet either. at wot you can def tell that it is a no joke exhaust. sam at xcceleration is really helpful too, and can answer questions about anything scooby if you are looking for a pre-fabbed kit, this is the only one i have found, and it has been great for me. --and yeah, keeping cats def sucks ( treehuggers )
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Old 04-19-2005, 01:19 AM   #8
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:00 AM   #9
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sweet i will have to look into one.
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Old 04-19-2005, 06:59 PM   #10
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Personally I am looking for other options for exhaust. I just cant justify $1300 on an exhaust, when that will buy me an entire small block chevy motor (which I am also in need of) . Also, I am not fond of the bent tip on that exhaust, looks funny from the side. Is there nothing else out there besides a custom jobber?
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:44 PM   #11
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I too wasn't ready to pay 1300 for an exhaust. I went to Mufflex Performance in New Jersey. They were recommended to me by a friend from around there. Paid 625 for 3" catback with highflow cat and magnaflow muffler. They also installed my Turboxs downpipe while the exhaust was off. They did an amazing job with my exhaust, I highly recommend them to anyone in the area. It sounds amazing and looks great too, and the power gains were way more than I expected. Definately worth the investment!!
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:22 PM   #12
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Where they able to do Mandrel bends...
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:23 PM   #13
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I'm pretty sure they can, but it costs more. Its really a big myth anyways that you lose power by crush bending. And for how few bends need to be made on our exhaust you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, I know I cant. I'll try to get some pics up of it, and maybe a sound clip this weekend.
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:42 PM   #14
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I'm pretty sure they can, but it costs more. Its really a big myth anyways that you lose power by crush bending. And for how few bends need to be made on our exhaust you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, I know I cant. I'll try to get some pics up of it, and maybe a sound clip this weekend.
interested in the pics, etc...since mufflex is not that far from me.

Generally speaking, crush bends are worse because in the process of bending the pipe at an angle, you get that "bent straw" effect where it chokes off the flow where the bend is. Since the bends on the baja exhaust are not severe and there are ways to do crush bents now that lessen this problem, a crush bent may work, but id personally reserve judgement until I saw some pics.
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Old 04-20-2005, 01:07 AM   #15
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power gains were way more than I expected. Definately worth the investment!!
Dyno sheet?

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Old 04-20-2005, 01:24 AM   #16
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Its really a big myth anyways that you lose power by crush bending.
I don't think that you will lose power by not going with mandrel bend. But I know for sure that you will gain more with it. And yes mandrel bent exhaust do cost more due to a smoother exhaust flow. Did they use stainless steel pipes and weld? With the random tech exhaust, you know you're getting quality parts, heck they are known for their free flow cats(BTW, the cats are SS as well).
Have you guys actually seen a 3" TBE random tech exhaust? Not because I have it, I support it. It's actually well worth the 1300 bucks I spent and considering I gained 14.5WHP and 24.5WTQ with just that exhaust!
I'm not downing custom exhaust or other exhaust but DoDO Brown, If you can afford 1300 bucks, go for it. You're more than welcome to check out my exhaust if you're not too far from the bay area. Mt. Hamilton meet is coming up, lemme know if you're going there.

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Old 04-20-2005, 01:39 AM   #17
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Cool! I was googling all over for a Baja-specific exhaust. I live in Southern California and have to retain an OEM cat. Do you know of any other Baja-specific exhausts? Not that Xcelleration/Random Tech doesn't have the pimp juice, I just want to know my other options.

On a stock turbo, I wonder if it would be better to get the 2.5" cat back over the 3" cat back? The 3" cat back is only $20 more, however! Maybe I should do the 3" in anticipation of future performance upgrades?
Stock Baja = 180WHP / 199WTQ
Stock Baja + Random Tech exhaust = 194.5WHP / 224.5WTQ
I'm not sure what the 2.5" will give you in terms of gains.

As for smog legality, it has 50 state carb EO number (all CARB info are listed on 2 cards that you will have to keep in your compartment) for each of the cats that you can provide if you ever get harrassed by pigs.

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Old 04-20-2005, 10:02 AM   #18
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Im almost positive I can get the same gains (or very close to those gains) with a catback exhaust and a manual boost controller, with the look I want, for less than half the price. I'm not knocking the TBE, its definately the cadillac (so to speak), but for me it has to be low cost because I already have 2 other cars that are modified/being modified and my wife will flip out if she knew i was even considering putting any mod money into the baja.
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Old 04-20-2005, 11:46 AM   #19
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Just my opinion, I personally wouldnt' do a MBC...yes the power gains can be signinficant, but your pushing so much more air into the engine without changing the amount of fuel being pumped in. I would just save money for ECUtek, but you def dont want to piss your wife off. Just be careful not to boost it too much. I would call a local tuning shop and discuss with them what a safe boost level might be. Just my 2 cents...Good Luck, and enjoy.
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Old 04-20-2005, 01:40 PM   #20
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Just my opinion, I personally wouldnt' do a MBC...yes the power gains can be signinficant, but your pushing so much more air into the engine without changing the amount of fuel being pumped in. I would just save money for ECUtek, but you def dont want to piss your wife off. Just be careful not to boost it too much. I would call a local tuning shop and discuss with them what a safe boost level might be. Just my 2 cents...Good Luck, and enjoy.
right around 13psi is what I would shoot for. Its not much, but 1.5 psi of boost will make a difference and the stock computer seems to be able to handle that small addtional amount.
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Old 04-20-2005, 04:40 PM   #21
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my wife will flip out if she knew i was even considering putting any mod money into the baja.
I here yah bud!
Lots of good practical/cost effective info tho! Thanks.

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Old 04-24-2005, 11:19 AM   #22
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I had a 3"installed from Performance muffler here in vegas I dont think its mandrel bent but it is a 3" so that should make up for it and the muffler is magnaflow with a stock type turndown so you cant hardly see it from the rear. and yeah no dyno # but there is a noticable decrease in spoolup and a bettter top end kick
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:02 PM   #23
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Why dont you guys get the mandrel bends online.... just look at the exhaust and judge what and how many bends there are.
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Old 04-24-2005, 04:17 PM   #24
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you might be able to trace the bends with some pencil and paper and either take the pattern to buy the bends, calculate the angles or perhaps fax the bends to a place that sells them. Just a thought if you go that route.
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Old 04-24-2005, 09:20 PM   #25
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Or you can just bite the bullet and support one of the few enthusiast companies (they aren't just a distributor, you know) that actually care to make real aftermarket performance parts for the Baja while everyone else is making lowering springs, clear taillights, and LED washer nozzles for Honda Civics.

Besides, what's your time worth? This thing just bolts on and is a work of mandrel-bent stainless-steel art.
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