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Old 04-18-2005, 08:16 PM   #1
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PWN3D air bag light goes on, car gets unhappy.

Driving the 3 miles to school today, my air bag light goes on.
As soon as that happens, car starts to rev weird (read my surging thread), but now with more intensity. I have to get on the gas (throttle around 30% for it NOT to surge). WHen I let off the gas, if feels like it is going to stall but doesnt.
I don't make this stuff up guys..hahah.
Any ideas to what this is? Assuming it is a wiring thing, but I don't know where to start.
Should i be riding the bus home tonight or is it safe to drive. I'm a bit worried about the air bag thing.... i'd hate to have that go off while i was driving.

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Old 04-18-2005, 08:21 PM   #2
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Driving the 3 miles to school today, my air bag light goes on.
As soon as that happens, car starts to rev weird (read my surging thread), but now with more intensity. I have to get on the gas (throttle around 30% for it NOT to surge). WHen I let off the gas, if feels like it is going to stall but doesnt.
I don't make this stuff up guys..hahah.
Any ideas to what this is? Assuming it is a wiring thing, but I don't know where to start.
Should i be riding the bus home tonight or is it safe to drive. I'm a bit worried about the air bag thing.... i'd hate to have that go off while i was driving.

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Did you wire the car yourself?
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Old 04-18-2005, 08:27 PM   #3
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i didn't do it, someone with a lot of experience did. Something just come loose or something?
Initally we had problems with the temp sensor not going down (went up and sayed up no matter what the temp was. That was something as stupid as a ground...i'm hopeing this is the same
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Old 04-18-2005, 09:35 PM   #4
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Man keef, all the threads I've been reading lately have been about problems with your swap. Sucks mango skin. Hope you get it solved.

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Old 04-18-2005, 09:52 PM   #5
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yeah man, it has been more than a year now since it "started". Kicked my ass every 12 months also.
from getting my stuff 2 months late, to starting it 3 months later, to having 1/2 the stuff missing, to having the engine not work, fighting with retart who sold it to me, finally getting it "running" just to find that everything else is f-ed.. seriously tests my patience.
good thing, is that I have a sense of humor about stuff now though. When i finally got the car parked today, I laughed. Today (like last time it broke) was a nice day out so I went for a drive Every time I try to think this car is normal, it makes sure to show me that it isn't.
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Old 04-19-2005, 12:47 AM   #6
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might I take a guess that the airbag light might in fact be your check engine light wired to the wrong spot...?...just and idea
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:32 AM   #7
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nope, check engine light has been on for a while.
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Old 04-19-2005, 10:46 AM   #8
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It could be something as simple as a ground maybe for the airbag computer thingy ....looking at the wiring schematics there are 2 grounds for it that are the type that you attach under a screw or bolt......or one of the yellow plugs under the dash might not being connected completely (which happened to me)...btw what I thought might have solved my rev limit/hesitation issue didnt help it.
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Old 04-19-2005, 11:14 AM   #9
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nope, check engine light has been on for a while.
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You should be able to pull the codes for the airbag system and CEL and go from there. I'd say its a bad ground since two seperate electrical systems are acting funny.

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Old 04-19-2005, 11:19 AM   #10
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I'm sceptical of the airbag light having anything to do with how the car is running. I ran with a JDM v4 steering wheel on and an airbag light for several months before I got around to buying the resistors needed to make the system think there was still an airbag installed. This was on an 02 swap though, the 2 systems aren't even connected to eachother. Don't know if that changed in 03.

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Old 04-19-2005, 11:34 AM   #11
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man you hvae bad CARma

i agree seperate system .. so it suggests a bad ground or bad power
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Old 04-19-2005, 12:44 PM   #12
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I am running an 03 ecu and when my airbag light was on I had no difference in how the car was running.
BTW this is agterlik
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Old 04-19-2005, 12:46 PM   #13
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i don't think it was the air bag light, I think that is just something related or something. Then again, the car just sux, so it could be a co-ink-e-dink.
who knows. going to put it on fire today
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Old 04-19-2005, 01:43 PM   #14
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i'll help burn it
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Old 04-19-2005, 02:05 PM   #15
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My first swap, I had 2 crossed wires(late nights wiring, same color wires, what can I say). It caused some very hard to diagnose problems. The only way I ended up figuring it out is I finally pulled out the old diagrams and multimeter and started tracing every wire from the ECU to the engine to see if it went where it was supposed to go. Got lucky and within about 10 wires I found the problem. I'd check grounds first like others in this thread have recommended, those are easy to check.
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:20 PM   #16
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It has to be something realted to the TPS...lucky for me I don't know where to start with that

Is there wiring diagrams floatng around t3h int0rweb or is that something I'd have to buy?
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:24 PM   #17
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I've got the 02 WRX diagrams in a PDF file. I don't know if anything changed for 2003, but if you want them I could e-mail it. The file is about 5 mb. Just PM me your email if you want them.
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:56 PM   #18
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I think you need to go wire to wire. Sorry man.
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Old 04-20-2005, 09:42 AM   #19
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I have the wiring guides on pdf as well...or I could just tell you the pins if you want..there are 3 pins

Pin 1 is Red and goes to B9 on the ecu which could be any color wire.....as well as pin 9 on the plug that feeds your fuel tank assembly where the wire is also red. This plug should be under the rear seat on the passenger side. This wire supplies 5V dc power to the sensor

Pin 2 is Black Green and goes to joint ground connector which is connected to ecu pin B19 as Red Greenso just check resistance with this wire to ground. Obviously ground

Pin 3 is Yellow Green and goes into the ecu at B7 as Light Green and should read .2-1V dc when closed and 4.2-4.7v dc when open.

Hope you have access to a multimeter and that this helps
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Old 04-20-2005, 01:51 PM   #20
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did you get your car working Agterlik?
thanks for that info, I might take those pdfs from you as well.
thanks again..I'll give it a try this weekend
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Old 04-20-2005, 03:28 PM   #21
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No I am still troubleshooting and good luck with yours. Oh yeah where do you live
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Old 04-21-2005, 09:48 AM   #22
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i'm up in Albany NY.
I'll be down in VA beach this summer though (friend getting married), maybe we can street race in a school zone or something with our cars
I hope I can get my POS down there ! hehe
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Old 04-21-2005, 12:40 PM   #23
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Bah Albany is to far I was gonna say if you were closer maybe I could try helpin you with some troubleshooting sometime. BTW do you have your OBDII port hooked up and working if not I can tell you how and then you can pull some cel codes. I dunno about that whole street racing thing.....our schoolzones are not very long down here.....but we could always do donuts in the highschool parking lot right when they get let out for the day.........show them the mad tyte power of an engine swap.....and if our cars are still running as they are now.....then we can race in the school zones all day long and probably never even get a ticket
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Oh be sure to make a thread in the Mid A to the HR crew when you are coming down.....we can hopefully arrange something fun.
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