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Old 10-24-2001, 05:31 PM   #1
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This is info I got from a local dealer here in Central PA. (In writing)

In Year 2002:
MY03-Forester is all new-larger model
MY03-Brat "STX" Truck Model
Fall 2003 Legacy/Outback Face lift

In Year 2003:
MY04-Impreza STI Model - 270HP
MY04-Forester Turbo

In Year 2004:
MY05-Legacy GT gets Turbo

In Year 2005:
MY06-All new Impreza Body
MY06-Multi-sport SUV with GM Joint Venture
*GM owns 20% of Fuji

No prices were given, but the salesman assured me that this was all true and that it was info that salespeople had gotten from SOA in a meeting.

So, start saving the cashish!
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Old 10-24-2001, 08:20 PM   #2
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there's only one thing the dealer can say they know for sure... FHI is part owned by GM.

As for the other stuf...ugh, don't believe it. It's been proven many times over that the dealerships don't know anything about the future of these cars.

But I'll tell ya, it would be nice to finally get all the turbo models here.
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Old 10-24-2001, 09:13 PM   #3
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My dealer says the Brat and the STi will be hear within the year ...they even are taking orders on the WRX STi models
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Old 10-25-2001, 09:31 AM   #4
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Default Re: Subaru's Future...

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Originally posted by Oquipah
This is info I got from a local dealer here in Central PA. (In writing)
In Year 2004:
MY05-Legacy GT gets Turbo

No prices were given, but the salesman assured me that this was all true and that it was info that salespeople had gotten from SOA in a meeting.

So, start saving the cashish!
Well, no need for the turbo kit... unless the 2003 redesign is uglier than the current GT... and if it looks anything like the 2002 B4s... it aint ugly.

Mike2000GT

EDIT... wait a minute... Is this the dealer just north of Lancaster... on Manheim pike? Those guys are a little shady... Of couse a dealer that sells, what... Mercedes or Jags, in the same showroom... I think their priorities were a little off.

I'm gonna wait to hear this from elsewere as well.
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Old 10-25-2001, 12:10 PM   #5
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*GM owns 20% of Fuji
actually they owne 25% now they bought out the 5% that isuzu owned

edit - or was it nissan either way 25%
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Old 10-25-2001, 12:15 PM   #6
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EDIT... wait a minute... Is this the dealer just north of Lancaster... on Manheim pike? Those guys are a little shady... Of couse a dealer that sells, what... Mercedes or Jags, in the same showroom... I think their priorities were a little off.
Actually yes it is "that" dealer. (it's Mercedes and Mitsubishi) Are they shady? I've really only dealt with their service dept. and gotten great service from them.

Hmmm, I hate stealerships!

Can anyone else confirm the Future model info?
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Old 10-25-2001, 12:18 PM   #7
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Dealers don't know jack unless they have some other contact within the engineering organization. I laugh when dealers tell me false information about cars i've seen or worked on in development. Anything to generate sales traffic.

GM bought Nissan's share of FHI evidentally. We already own 49 of isuzu so if it was isuzu we'd already own half of that 5%.

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Old 10-25-2001, 03:12 PM   #8
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While I havent dealt with the service dept there, I have dealt with the sales reps. Really really typical business practice (once they decide to talk to you again... after you say your not buying a mercedes...)... I make an offer... they make counter offer... I say no, they say... lemme talk to my manager... then they say well how about this... blah blah blah...

I was looking at buying an RS from them, but it turned out they wanted the same price for a demo with 3K on it ( ) than the Bel Air, MD dealership wanted for a brand new one. 3K is not new..... and a demo... yeah. right.

Oh... and it took em a week to get a replacement RE92 when I blew a tire from a pothole. Car had ~1K on it. 135$ out the window.

Hope your dealings with them are better than mine.

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(is only shopping at Bel Air Subaru, Bel Air, Md... see Peg Emge)
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Old 10-26-2001, 08:08 AM   #9
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Yeah I've dealt with similar dealers (not Subaru). I hate the "Let me go talk to my manager..." That's about the time I get up and start to walk out the door. I wish my friend still worked at the Suby dealer near Philly. But...well my GF is looking for a new/used Outback Sedan so I test the Lancaster dealer for bs and keep your story in mind.

Although I will still use their service dept.

Thanks,
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Old 10-26-2001, 02:31 PM   #10
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i don't believe 95% of the salepeople's words......
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Old 01-21-2005, 02:19 PM   #11
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Default Dealer says 2006 STi to have 400HP

My local dealer may not know what he is talking about, but this is what he said he has heard from different reps. And, I was in the dealership drooling over a 2005 STi they had. So, he obviously was not saying it if he really wanted me to buy this STi they have had on the lot for 3 to 4 months now.
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Old 01-21-2005, 02:23 PM   #12
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Dealers, by and large, are less informed than the average internet user.
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Old 01-21-2005, 02:50 PM   #13
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i had a dealer once say STi is never coming....that was in like...02 o 03... idiot
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Old 01-21-2005, 03:22 PM   #14
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i hear it will have all wheel drive
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Old 01-21-2005, 03:31 PM   #15
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i had a dealer once say STi is never coming....that was in like...02 o 03... idiot
That's this guy's point...he was an interested prospect looking at an STi at the dealership and the dealership told him that better things were coming. Your dealer was obviously trying to get you to buy right then.

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Old 01-21-2005, 04:04 PM   #16
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It's supposed to come with autoglass. Completely enclosing the occupants from the outside elements.
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Old 01-21-2005, 04:07 PM   #17
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I hear it will have four wheels, five if you count the Steering wheel.
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Old 01-21-2005, 04:09 PM   #18
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my dealer said it had a porche engine and the rest of the car is going to made by daewoo, and the overall weight will be 1800 lbs
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Old 01-21-2005, 04:09 PM   #19
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I hear it will have four wheels, five if you count the Steering wheel.
So ... you're saying it will have runflats and no spare?
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Old 01-21-2005, 04:13 PM   #20
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Did the dealer tell you how Subaru is planning on achieving that number? Let me guess.. H6 turbo with forged internals?

I think a good rule of thumb is to be mighty suspicious when you hear that kind of way-too-good-to-be-true wishful thinkings.

And let's just say they actually came out with 400HP. and they're gonna charge only 32k for a 400HP AWD sports car? right... So we'll have an Impreza that'll cost >40k. That'll sell.
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Old 01-21-2005, 04:37 PM   #21
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Maybe he was thinking of the CA edition STI in the SubieSport mag. It said 425hp....probably $$$$$ though
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Old 01-21-2005, 04:38 PM   #22
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Maybe he was talking about the 425hp ESX STi from another thread in this forum ... or else ESX is only bumping the hp on theirs up 25 from the stock upcoming STi.
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Old 01-21-2005, 04:38 PM   #23
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dammit! too slow...
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Old 01-21-2005, 04:53 PM   #24
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That would be great! That would mean that my '04 stock STi would move down from AS to BS, because there is now way they would put a 400hp STi against a 500hp Z06 Vette in SS.

There is a guy named Mike Shields that in 2001 told me there is no way the STi is EVER coming to the US. Is he still in business?

400hp is unlikely, but 350hp is possible. My feeling is more like 325-345.
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The GM at a local dealer whom I am friends with stated that the 06 STI would indeed have 400hp and a new body style. He has always been on target the last 4 years when it comes to inside info, so I trust the source. I don't personally think Subaru will do this on the 2.5, maybe a turbo 6 cyl? Hmmmmm
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