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Old 03-07-2016, 06:34 AM   #1
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Subaru Stars Subaru Global Platform

Fuji Heavy Industries revealed the new platform today. I wonder what it will mean for the WRX and STI?

http://www.fhi.co.jp/press/news-en/2016_03_07_2034/
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Old 03-07-2016, 09:09 AM   #3
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There apparently was a press event earlier today with an actual chassis and this Japanese site has high-res pictures:
http://clicccar.com/2016/03/07/359083/subaru_01-7/
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:55 AM   #4
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I really wish they would implement this in time for the 2017 WRX/STI. But it is still a very good sign that Subaru wants to hang with the big boys who have already seen great success with their hybrid engines.

Can you imagine an STI with a 450hp/400tq powerplant that gets 30++ mpg? It's all a girl can dream for.
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:56 AM   #5
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Well, it sounds good. (But of course it should.)
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Old 03-07-2016, 11:08 AM   #6
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TOKYO -- Subaru has unveiled a next-generation vehicle platform it says will improve safety and driving performance while keeping the small Japanese automaker competitive through 2025.

The new architecture will underpin all the brand’s nameplates beginning with the redesigned Impreza small car arriving in the second half of this year. The Subaru Global Platform is designed to accommodate gasoline drivetrains in addition to traditional hybrid, plug-in hybrid and all-electric systems.

Details of the new technology were outlined today by executives at the global headquarters of Fuji Heavy Industries, Subaru’s parent company. The platform is a key pillar of Fuji Heavy’s plan to achieve worldwide sales of 1.1 million vehicles in the fiscal year ending March 31, 2021.

“Starting with the car coming out this year, we will advance the next level, using the new Subaru Global Platform to provide Subaru with more safety and fun every year,” said Naoto Muto, executive vice president for global engineering.

The new platform should be able to underpin Subaru vehicles through 2025 with regular improvements, executives said.

Autonomous driving

Subaru also outlined new targets for autonomous driving, using the brand’s camera-based Eyesight safety system.

Next year, Subaru will introduce a new traffic jam assist function. It will allow the car to start and stop automatically in slow traffic and steer the car automatically around curves.

Subaru’s current system requires the driver to manually re-engage acceleration once the car has come to a full stop. The existing technology also does not feature automatic steering.

Traffic jam assist will work at speeds up to 40 mph.

Then by 2020, Subaru said it will introduce a semiautonomous driving function for highway driving. That system will allow automated lane changing and automated steering around curves.

It will combine radar sensors and GPS mapping with Eyesight.

Fun, efficient

The new platform will not only make Subaru cars safer and more fun to drive, it will make the cars less costly to engineer, said Tetsuo Onuki, vice president of global engineering.

That is because it will be possible to produce components for multiple models at one factory, instead of over multiple factories. This will increase efficiency and allow Subaru to more flexibly shift production between factories in the United States and Japan to quickly adjust to changing demand.

Subaru can focus its limited personnel and product development resources on variations of one platform, instead of spreading them thinly across multiple platforms.

Finding new ways to boost efficiencies while improving its cars is key for Fuji Heavy in an era in which bigger rivals are increasingly able to leverage volume to slash costs.

Subaru channeled savings into upgrading the performance of the new platform, Onuki said. The goal is to enhance the product without raising sticker prices, he said. For ride and handling, Subaru aimed to surpass European brands, he added.

Among the improvements:

• Body rigidity improved 70 percent to 100 percent

• Center of gravity lowered for better handling

• Collision impact absorption improved by 40 percent

• Noise and vibration reduced by 15 percent

Upcoming vehicles

Subaru is the latest of several automakers to roll out commonized platforms. Toyota Motor Corp. just debuted its iteration, the Toyota New Global Architecture, in the redesigned fourth-generation Prius hybrid. Nissan Motor Co. launched its Common Module Family platform in 2013 in the Rogue crossover.

Subaru will add production of the redesigned Impreza to its factory in Lafayette, Ind., this year. That will boost annual production capacity there to 394,000 by the end of 2016 from 200,000 at the start of the year. Subaru already produces the Legacy sedan and Outback crossover in the U.S.

Subaru will also build a new three-row SUV at the plant starting in 2018. That vehicle, which will also be based on the new global platform, will replace the aging Tribeca.

Also in 2018, Subaru plans to begin selling its first plug-in hybrid.
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Old 03-07-2016, 11:12 AM   #7
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I really wish they would implement this in time for the 2017 WRX/STI. But it is still a very good sign that Subaru wants to hang with the big boys who have already seen great success with their hybrid engines.

Can you imagine an STI with a 450hp/400tq powerplant that gets 30++ mpg? It's all a girl can dream for.

Read the above...

This is from first OP post
The Subaru Global Platform that offers these benefits will be used in the development of all Subaru vehicles from now on, beginning with the next-generation Impreza, due to hit the market in 2016.
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Old 03-07-2016, 11:48 AM   #8
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According to auto log
"The new WRX reportedly joins the range in 2017 and possibly gets an extra boost from hybrid power."
That means model year 2018.
What we want:
DCTs, Hybrid Turbos, hydronic steering,
What we'll get:
CVTs, hybrid drive trains, electric steering
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Old 03-07-2016, 02:13 PM   #9
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Subaru said it will introduce a semiautonomous driving function for highway driving. That system will allow automated lane changing and automated steering around curves.

The new platform will not only make Subaru cars safer and more fun to drive, it will make the cars less costly to engineer, said Tetsuo Onuki, vice president of global engineering.
Does not compute. Maybe it's more fun to text while the car is driving itself? Or you can get an app to see how your car is driving and make corrections in the app.....

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Old 03-07-2016, 02:31 PM   #10
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Well I have high hopes for this for Subaru, and I do wish them the best. As this is the future. VW did this with the MQB and it has proven a huge success. All other manufacturers will have to do this or be left behind.

Amazing Subaru did this at all. Very impressive.
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Old 03-07-2016, 03:35 PM   #11
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Well I have high hopes for this for Subaru, and I do wish them the best. As this is the future. VW did this with the MQB and it has proven a huge success. All other manufacturers will have to do this or be left behind.

Amazing Subaru did this at all. Very impressive.
Yes but this could be the beginning of the new Greener Subaru. Haldex type awd and non boxer engines. It's coming I just know it. Like Bimmer front drive etc. Will see. The Earth hadn't warmed in 58 years and there is a glut of oil but we must have cars that get 100 mpg by 2030.
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:07 PM   #12
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yup, but just think of how much fun you will have driving your old muscle cars when everybody is driving around in 100mpg quiet appliances...
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Old 03-07-2016, 05:17 PM   #13
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It would be nice if Subaru became one of the quiet ones. Apparently they've only achieved 15% noise reduction with the SGP.
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:29 PM   #14
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Seems to me this is just Subaru going back to it's roots. I know all manufactures are now doing the "one platform" thing as a way to control costs and development time, but through the later 70s, 80s, and 90s Subaru was already running basically one platform.

Most notably with the first gen Legacy>first gen Impreza>second gen Legacy>first gen Forester>second gen Impreza>second gen Forester. All were on essentially the same platform. It was the 3rd gen Legacy that started the diversity when it got the (at the time needed) new rear suspension.

Back in the day, I thought that showed a lot of foresight by Subaru and was one of the reasons I got into them.
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:29 PM   #15
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It would be nice if Subaru became one of the quiet ones. Apparently they've only achieved 15% noise reduction with the SGP.
That's platform NVH. That's not the total universe of NVH
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Old 03-07-2016, 07:33 PM   #16
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Fuji Heavy Industries revealed the new platform today. I wonder what it will mean for the WRX and STI?

I would guess they will be even heavier and still under 300hp. But more efficient of course.
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Can anyone see anything profound in these images? I'm not a engineer.
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I would guess they will be even heavier and still under 300hp. But more efficient of course.
I have yet to see a manufacturer release global architecture that the architecture itself were heavier than what it replaced. I'd be shocked If that was the case was Subaru
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Old 03-07-2016, 08:36 PM   #19
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Please make a sporty Impreza Sport, the new platform deserves it.
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The Earth hadn't warmed in 58 years and there is a glut of oil but we must have cars that get 100 mpg by 2030.
And we can thank Subaru for having the foresight to engineer those oil-consumption features to save us from practically drowning in all that oil.
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Old 03-07-2016, 10:40 PM   #21
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That vehicle, which will also be based on the new global platform, will replace the aging Tribeca.
Good one. Dead for years, yet still aging.
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Old 03-07-2016, 11:52 PM   #22
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I'm curious if they managed to increase the travel of the rear suspension...
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:07 AM   #23
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Holy cow that is one stiff chassis. With the rigidity improvements since the '90s, it makes it look like those back then were noodle floppy.

And this is the first from Subaru that doesn't show the Ring Force Reinforcement Frame. Wonder if it's still there. Another question for the engineers tomorrow!
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:30 AM   #24
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Holy cow that is one stiff chassis. With the rigidity improvements since the '90s, it makes it look like those back then were noodle floppy.

And this is the first from Subaru that doesn't show the Ring Force Reinforcement Frame. Wonder if it's still there. Another question for the engineers tomorrow!
Yeah the ring mysteriously isn't shown. Would be awesome if you can post any info you're allowed to I'd like to know about weight savings, and the stiffness increase between the current WRX/STI chassis and this one. That 70-100% isn't quite model specific. I know chances are low you can relay such info though... Just a wish list of sorts
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Yeah the ring mysteriously isn't shown. Would be awesome if you can post any info you're allowed to I'd like to know about weight savings, and the stiffness increase between the current WRX/STI chassis and this one. That 70-100% isn't quite model specific. I know chances are low you can relay such info though... Just a wish list of sorts
Yeah what he said...
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